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| norayr | are there a port for tho neo freerunner? | 09:29 |
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| norayr | is there | 09:29 |
| norayr | Thele was a mer for openmoko devices | 09:30 |
| norayr | the old one | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | no, though i'm getting my freerunner back | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | freerunner isn't powerful enough to run nemo though | 09:30 |
| norayr | eh | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | we use gles/egl extensively | 09:36 |
| norayr | I think it is necessary to have non gl UX not only for old devices, but also for the handsets with no GL drivers available. | 09:46 |
| norayr | May be I'll run FOS interface or Diablo Hildon on nemo one day. | 09:47 |
| norayr | FSO | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | probably, but we're high end UX :) | 09:48 |
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| Kris_CZ | Hello, I installed the nemo on N900 and on first boot, I have a lot of error messages. For example: [2.075073] EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p1) ext4check_descroptors: Checksum for group 28 failed (63338! = 546) | 10:46 |
| Stskeeps | sounds like you had something mounted when you wrote the image | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | or the sd card is going sour | 10:48 |
| Kris_CZ | I wrote directly to the card in the phone | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | that sounds like one reason why it went wrong | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | do it from a pc at least | 10:49 |
| Kris_CZ | OK | 10:50 |
| Kris_CZ | hmm i have mounted boot partition od SD card when I wrote the image | 11:05 |
| Stskeeps | yes, don't do that | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | make sure it's unmounted from there | 11:06 |
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| Kris_CZ | now it's ok | 11:20 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: seems like tere's gitorious activity for harmattan sensorw | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | sensorfw | 14:26 |
| faenil | if there's anyone in here who can help with qml + gl, here's my thread :D http://developer.qt.nokia.com/forums/viewthread/13434/http://developer.qt.nokia.com/forums/viewthread/13434/ | 14:27 |
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| tabasko | howdy, is there any alpha builds or something I could flash to my N? :) | 19:34 |
| tabasko | *N9 | 19:34 |
| tabasko | hmm, I could check log before asking | 19:35 |
| veskuh-nemo | n950 image works on N9. just installing it is different. | 19:36 |
| veskuh-nemo | link to instructions should be in log somewhere | 19:36 |
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| tabasko | veskuh-nemo: topics link to log doesnt seem to work.. | 19:41 |
| Stskeeps | works for me | 19:41 |
| tabasko | Stskeeps: can I just use nokia's flasher for it? | 19:43 |
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| Stskeeps | tabasko: a third party solution can be found at http://jon.severinsson.net/NemoN9/ but it doesn't work on all devices due to a bootloader bug | 19:43 |
| tabasko | Stskeeps: if something goes wrong for example with bootloader bug could I still use flasher to get harmattan maemo back? | 19:46 |
| tabasko | I have 059K1F7, north europe model | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | yes, likely, but do remember that this will probably void your device warranty | 19:49 |
| tabasko | I know :) | 19:52 |
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| veskuh-nemo | make sure you have harmattan image available if you are flashing nemo. As far as I know those are not officially available for N9. | 19:55 |
| veskuh-nemo | flasher is available though | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | right, that too | 19:55 |
| veskuh-nemo | stskeeps: nemo seems to be able to keep wlan & irc session up quite nicely. | 20:03 |
| Stskeeps | nice | 20:04 |
| Stskeeps | makes me wonder if nokia ever upstreamed ip heartbeat | 20:04 |
| veskuh-nemo | would | 20:07 |
| veskuh-nemo | would be nice if the notification led was utilized | 20:07 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 20:08 |
| Stskeeps | at least nemo isn't tizen handset.. i was digging through the init scripts | 20:11 |
| Stskeeps | it feels like maemo4/5, very very tied to a specific type of hardware, chipset, vendor.. | 20:11 |
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| Stskeeps | even down to loading camera driver for s3c mfc (samsung camera framework) in it | 20:12 |
| veskuh-nemo | yep, slp legacy I guess. | 20:12 |
| veskuh-nemo | start from scratch would have been better for tizen | 20:13 |
| Stskeeps | which really gives creedance to the theory that there's two different tizen stacks, perhaps even more, centered around the tizen html5 stuff, but one that's somewhat meego derived, and the slp one, and perhaps soon bada based too | 20:14 |
| veskuh-nemo | well, the WAC you can base on almost anything, but still agreed there will be conflicts in sorting all those out. | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | i can't begin to imagine how much of a turf war could happen with bada vs slp.. | 20:17 |
| veskuh-nemo | Yep. If the targets are not shared it is bad. | 20:21 |
| veskuh-nemo | but if all agree on the targets it may be good. | 20:22 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:22 |
| veskuh-nemo | in meego I felt that the targets were set too high. | 20:22 |
| Stskeeps | if everyone agree to share just the html5 'tizen' api and compliance to that and leave rest of stack 'up to you', that'd be a powerful proposition | 20:22 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. trying to do too much at same time | 20:23 |
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| veskuh-nemo | yep. the project would provide you with tools and packages but you would be allowed to sort out your problem and just share api. | 20:24 |
| Stskeeps | if all fails, i just hope to have a mer-based tv from those chinese guys on mailing list ;) | 20:28 |
| veskuh-nemo | just make sure that they send you proto before it is shops :) | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, yeah | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | did you try nemo on exopc? besides the VKB issues, it's actually quite good as a tablet os | 20:35 |
| veskuh-nemo | I don't have one. Maybe I should borrow one to test that out. | 20:38 |
| Stskeeps | and that the gestures are a bit oversensitive on such a big screen, but yeah | 20:39 |
| Stskeeps | not far to go for a good experience | 20:39 |
| veskuh-nemo | Nice. I think that applies in general. With a relatively small effort you could build many kind of cool stuff. | 20:41 |
| veskuh-nemo | fro the stuff we have built. | 20:41 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 20:41 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: yes, but that is still in the 0.6.x harmattan branch from which meego forked | 20:47 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 20:47 |
| Sage | marquiz: might know better what is the difference between 0.6.x and 0.7.x as he was the 0.7.x maintainer :) | 20:48 |
| Sage | meego forked from 0.6.32 to 0.7.x and harmattan is now at 0.6.45 | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: i've been hacking a bit on kickstarter as usual.. | 20:49 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: http://pastie.org/3185825 | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | yields a valid .ks | 20:50 |
| Stskeeps | the idea is to be able to provide off the shelf yaml's for hardware adaptation, ux'es, etc | 20:51 |
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| Sage | ah, that reminds me I need to fix the repository thing in kickstarter. | 20:55 |
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| Sage | it has defaults that are not good | 20:56 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:56 |
| Stskeeps | this gets rid of Default: totally | 20:56 |
| Sage | btw, mipsel? not mipsl? | 20:56 |
| Stskeeps | mipsel. | 20:56 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:56 |
| Sage | I'm just recalling the cnfustion with armv7l and armv7el :) | 20:56 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 20:57 |
| Stskeeps | not very consistent | 20:57 |
| Stskeeps | :) | 20:57 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: but that look quite good | 21:04 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: however, remember the difference with repositoryArchitecture and architecture | 21:06 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 21:06 |
| Sage | so those arch's that you have there are currently repository arhicitectures as well. | 21:07 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 21:07 |
| Sage | e.g., if vendor wants to use armv7nhl he can't use those | 21:08 |
| Stskeeps | i also need to think about we effectively want to have vendors use these | 21:08 |
| Sage | also with i586 vendor might want to use archtecture i686 btw | 21:09 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 21:09 |
| Sage | so that SSE3 should have 2 lines at least | 21:09 |
| Sage | repoarch: i586 and arch: i686 | 21:09 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 21:10 |
| Sage | armv7nhl is another story | 21:10 |
| Sage | for that there is probably need to add own arch totally that sets arch: armv7nhl and repoarch armv7hl as well as armv7tnhl | 21:11 |
| Sage | and armv7thl | 21:11 |
| Stskeeps | i'm pondering to have HA's define the architecture actualy | 21:11 |
| Sage | HA'? | 21:12 |
| Stskeeps | hardware adaptations | 21:12 |
| Sage | well, I would say that HA can override the setting, but we probably should set it in Mer | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 21:14 |
| Sage | or hmm | 21:14 |
| Sage | yes, 2 more to the list and let HA override would work IMO. "ARMv7 hardfp with neon architecture" etc. | 21:15 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 21:16 |
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