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Sage | morning | 07:09 |
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Stskeeps | morn | 07:09 |
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Bgdwie | Afternoon | 07:20 |
mikhas | moin | 07:26 |
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Sage | hmmp... I wonder if the alsa crash has happened before as well | 08:02 |
Sage | if it does that could be part of the problems we are not having audio during calls at times. | 08:03 |
Stskeeps | perhaps we didn't see it | 08:03 |
Sage | http://pastie.org/3123356 | 08:04 |
Stskeeps | happens on non-core-next too? | 08:05 |
Sage | I haven't seen that before myself | 08:06 |
Sage | also unable to reproduce | 08:06 |
Sage | so hard to say when it happens or has it happened before | 08:06 |
Stskeeps | ok | 08:06 |
Sage | I just recall the random audio not working cases at times | 08:06 |
Stskeeps | it should be an assertion failure | 08:07 |
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Sage | ok, so what is the next step with mer next? | 08:13 |
Stskeeps | does it boot? | 08:14 |
Stskeeps | to home | 08:14 |
Sage | yes, but lots of stuff crash it seems :) | 08:14 |
Stskeeps | that's less good | 08:14 |
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Stskeeps | what stuff crashes? | 08:14 |
Sage | alsa crashed like I haven't seen before as explained up | 08:15 |
Sage | then systemuid disappeared and now device doesn't respond | 08:15 |
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Sage | ah, it is just dialer that is stuck | 08:16 |
Stskeeps | let's make a proper image with the new kernel? | 08:16 |
Stskeeps | so we have it straight from mic2 | 08:16 |
Sage | sure | 08:18 |
Sage | on it | 08:18 |
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Bgdwie_ | Stskeeps: do you know who did the mer logo/ | 08:29 |
Stskeeps | wazd / andrew zhillin | 08:29 |
Stskeeps | it's not a certain font, it's a svg | 08:30 |
Stskeeps | http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Artwork | 08:30 |
Bgdwie_ | Ahh, i though he may have just used an existing font in those (some font formats are vector based and integrate well) | 08:32 |
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Sage | http://sage.kapsi.fi/Mer/tmp/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n900-testing-0.20120105.0.1.NEMO.2012-01-04.1-mmcblk0p.raw.bz2 | 08:39 |
Sage | the first boot takes about 15mins or so :) | 08:39 |
Stskeeps | thanks, grabbing | 08:39 |
w00t | 15 minuets? Oo | 08:39 |
Sage | well, my device still has blank screen | 08:40 |
Sage | 3mins passed | 08:40 |
frals | w00t: 15 minutes first boot sounds nice, at least i take 30minutes AT LEAST to boot up properly in the morning ;) | 08:40 |
Sage | class 10 card | 08:40 |
Sage | ok, 4mins :) | 08:41 |
w00t | frals: lol | 08:41 |
Sage | so people with N900 please test image above and report anything that is out of the ordinary here (not bugzilla yet) | 08:42 |
Sage | veskuh: was is known thing that dialer freezes after closing incoming call? | 08:43 |
veskuh | answerered on non-answered? | 08:44 |
Sage | answered | 08:44 |
Sage | if not then could someone test with the latest nemo release | 08:44 |
veskuh | I've seen randomly it happening, but I'm not sure if we have bug about ti | 08:45 |
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Sage | boot device call to Nemo, answer call and hangup from nemo. | 08:45 |
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veskuh | I'll test with 12-22.1 | 08:45 |
Sage | thx | 08:45 |
Sage | seems to be only the first call done after boot | 08:46 |
veskuh | Worked before reboot. Rebooting now. | 08:47 |
Sage | another thing. Call outgoing call from Nemo, reject the call on other device and then close dialer. At least on my image dialer reappears in this case. | 08:50 |
* Sage ponderds why blanco theme isn't on the new image | 08:51 | |
veskuh | Sage: Cannot replicate the first issue with n950 12-22.1 | 08:51 |
veskuh | even after reboot | 08:51 |
Sage | ok, need to retest on N900 12-22.1, anyone have that running? | 08:51 |
veskuh | sage did you pinquery automatically popup on boot, sometimes the freezes happened while pinquery had to be manually run. | 08:52 |
Sage | I don't have pinquery on my sim atm. | 08:52 |
veskuh | Also the second case is working | 08:53 |
Sage | ok, more things noted: music self has X on right corner it doesn't close the app. How about you? | 08:54 |
Sage | and yes that could be removed now as we have gestures | 08:55 |
veskuh | Sage, yes that one I have also | 08:56 |
veskuh | And home button does not work either | 08:56 |
Sage | :nod: | 08:56 |
Sage | I can file a bug about that | 08:57 |
veskuh | yep | 08:57 |
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Sage | ok, lets see what else | 08:59 |
Sage | I can start applications twice. Musicself seems to work, but irc chatter shows blank screen for second entry. | 09:02 |
Sage | shouldn't it popup the old app when tried to start second time? | 09:02 |
Sage | something missing from .desktop file? | 09:02 |
Sage | settings works as I would expect that it takes the old instance forward when tried to start second time | 09:04 |
veskuh | yes, it utilizes invoker | 09:04 |
veskuh | and for invoker you can say -single-instance or similiar | 09:04 |
veskuh | if .desktop is directly for app binary, then it is up to application code | 09:04 |
Sage | ok | 09:05 |
Sage | settings has also home and close buttons that could be removed. | 09:05 |
Sage | those are not shown in harmattan and we have the same settings app so should be easy fix? | 09:05 |
veskuh | New base theme would remove them, but it had missing icons. | 09:05 |
Sage | ah, ok | 09:05 |
Sage | We should probably file bug about the new base theme and add bugs blocking on that? | 09:06 |
veskuh | yep, good idea. | 09:07 |
* Sage files a bug | 09:07 | |
veskuh | In general I like filing all tasks as bugs as it bring visibility on what we are doing | 09:08 |
Sage | true, however I don't like to force bugfiling as it might just bring a lot of overhead for all minor changes. | 09:10 |
veskuh | Agreed | 09:10 |
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phaeron | Sage: how about a command line script to enable that :) | 09:11 |
Sage | When I have hw keyboard open the bottom of the screen gets black bar when text input field is selected | 09:14 |
Sage | what should be there? | 09:14 |
veskuh | in all apps? | 09:15 |
veskuh | and how big? | 09:15 |
Sage | in all apps it seems yes | 09:17 |
Sage | I have ce theme though maybe that is the cause? | 09:17 |
* Sage changes to darko | 09:18 | |
Stskeeps | Sage: can we compare last core with current core? | 09:18 |
Stskeeps | ie, image | 09:18 |
Stskeeps | the startup time worries me | 09:18 |
Sage | xruxa, veskuh: http://pastie.org/3123638 | 09:19 |
veskuh | If it is narrow ~10% of height, it could be room for text toolbar, but if it is like half of screen it is some other issue | 09:19 |
Sage | veskuh: ~10% yes | 09:19 |
veskuh | booster is missing/malfunctioning? | 09:19 |
veskuh | flickr-qml uses booster-d | 09:19 |
Sage | meego 1838 0.2 2.2 88596 5288 ? Ssl 13:08 0:06 booster-d | 09:20 |
Sage | running ok | 09:20 |
veskuh | socket has moved? | 09:20 |
Sage | apps starts though | 09:20 |
veskuh | invoker falls back on starting app directly instead of using booster, so it does not help startup time if we get this message | 09:21 |
Sage | Stskeeps: yes. Don't have 2 similar sd cards on my hands though so need to do reflashing | 09:21 |
Stskeeps | Sage: just need to see what is core caused and what is caused by our upgrades in MTF | 09:21 |
Sage | veskuh: ok. Well then there is a problem with invoker I guess. can you check your device meegotouch-applauncherd-2.0.14-1.3.Nemo.MW.MTF.armv7hl | 09:21 |
Sage | veskuh: socket moved perhaps, or if socket is located in place like /tmp where it might get removed | 09:22 |
Sage | veskuh: seems a problem with all apps on my image at least http://pastie.org/3123661 | 09:23 |
Sage | Stskeeps: the new core image seems to function quite well actually. In feature pow. | 09:26 |
Sage | xruxa: we are missing translation application not responding thing. | 09:27 |
Sage | veskuh: helium should remove the top bar as well more space for webpage | 09:27 |
Sage | Stskeeps: with new core 3rd boot was ~60s to homescreen after uboot started to load kernel | 09:29 |
Sage | ok ~65s with systemui | 09:33 |
Stskeeps | :nod: | 09:33 |
Sage | http://pastie.org/3123703 <- what is the 10s holdup in 5-16s ? | 09:34 |
Sage | fs already mounted there and systemd running | 09:35 |
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Sage | do we have bootchart somewhere? | 09:38 |
Stskeeps | no, but we should | 09:38 |
Stskeeps | systemctl has a blame function though? | 09:38 |
Sage | not sure | 09:39 |
Sage | anyway lunch | 09:39 |
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Sage | Stskeeps: well there is systemd-analyse binary in fedora but our systemd in mer doesn't have it | 10:22 |
Stskeeps | hmm | 10:22 |
Sage | http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/blame-game.html | 10:22 |
Stskeeps | systemd-analyze should be there | 10:22 |
Sage | it is not there | 10:22 |
Stskeeps | hmmm | 10:22 |
Stskeeps | well that's a bug then | 10:23 |
Sage | I'll check if it is just a typo in our packaging | 10:23 |
xruxa | Sage: the missing translations for dead application - those used to be removed in the kickstart IIRC | 10:23 |
Sage | xruxa: true, need to check what is the status of that. However IIRC that message was Application X sucks :D | 10:24 |
xruxa | Sage: http://pastie.org/3123892 get rid of that line | 10:25 |
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Sage | Stskeeps: ah, we have separate package for analyze systemd-tools | 10:27 |
xruxa | Sage: the translation is back to normal, you can stop removing it ;) https://gitorious.org/meego-developer-edition-for-n900/meegotouch-community-l10n/blobs/master/recovery_en.ts | 10:27 |
Stskeeps | Sage: so, no ill effects on new core you think? | 10:27 |
Stskeeps | Sage: and those failures we do see are attributed to new meegotouch upgrades? | 10:28 |
xruxa | Sage, veskuh : the flickr-qml not launching with booster, is that on me or still under investigation? | 10:28 |
Sage | Stskeeps: as far as I can see there is no regressions more than kernel, we need to check the booster thing though first | 10:29 |
Sage | xruxa, veskuh: that can be the booster package as well need to verify that | 10:29 |
xruxa | Sage, veskuh: Hmm, I do not see that http://pastie.org/3123930 ... how to reproduce? | 10:34 |
veskuh | xruxa: I think it was in sage's new image | 10:34 |
Sage | xruxa: my new image, but try to start app multiple times without closing | 10:36 |
xruxa | also wondering if that "LocalThemeDaemonClient" bit in that log means we 1) do not share QtComponents resources as each app runs own theme daemon 2) are not able to use current theme | 10:36 |
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veskuh | xruxa: Feel free to investigate :) I think there was some hacks done with compoentns origianlly in summer to get them work. Some of those might not be needed anymore. | 10:38 |
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Sage | hmmp... mce has bug in its .service file based on http://pastie.org/3123938 | 10:46 |
Sage | or are those times how much from boot is used or how much after starting a service | 10:46 |
Sage | some of the services are missing from that listing I wonder why | 10:51 |
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Sage | are ohmd and sensord used by anything below graphical interface? | 11:04 |
Stskeeps | ohmd - resource policy? | 11:04 |
Sage | yes | 11:05 |
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Sage | 8100ms ohmd.service | 11:07 |
Sage | :headdesk: | 11:07 |
Stskeeps | auch? | 11:07 |
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Sage | ok, not that | 11:10 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3950 Accepted promotion request | 11:57 |
* araujo wonders when is planned new nemo image | 12:07 | |
Sage | araujo: well, in theory tomorrow. In practise not sure :) | 12:18 |
araujo | Sage, ok :) | 12:19 |
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Sage | xruxa: removed the translation thing from .ks file | 13:39 |
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Sage | Stskeeps: pushing bootchart to CE:Utils | 13:50 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3961 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3961 | 13:50 |
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Sage | xruxa: I see you have ce-mtf-configs and darko theme updates in Project:MTF:UX are those ready for moving forward? I'm asking as I'm planing to do new image tomorrow. | 13:53 |
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xruxa | Sage: yes, those two are ready to go with the new Kasvopus | 13:54 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3961 Accepted promotion request | 13:54 |
Sage | k | 13:54 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3962 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3962 | 13:57 |
Sage | forwarded | 14:00 |
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the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3962 Accepted promotion request | 14:01 |
Sage | veskuh: sms patch looks good now. accepted. | 14:02 |
veskuh | Sage: nice | 14:02 |
veskuh | Sage: I saw the freeze issue | 14:03 |
veskuh | may be related to ofono somehow | 14:03 |
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veskuh | or not. | 14:04 |
veskuh | very annoying though. I was just starting to debug the callhistory missing number/name for missed calls, but cannot since the ui always freezes before that | 14:05 |
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veskuh | or it might be related to audio output | 14:39 |
veskuh | I'm not geting alert tone and even gst-launch says that device is busy | 14:40 |
Stskeeps | pulsesink or alsasink? | 14:41 |
veskuh | alsasink | 14:41 |
Stskeeps | try pulsesink? | 14:41 |
veskuh | it works | 14:41 |
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veskuh | Is there anything I can do to free alsasink? | 14:42 |
* veskuh hates booting | 14:42 | |
Stskeeps | well, i would assume pulseaudio occupies alsasink, in truth, alsasink/ALSA should speak pulseaudio protocol | 14:44 |
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veskuh | Ok, now no freeze and audio works. So I'm assuming that freeze happens when dialer tries to free QMediaPlayer but cant since it is stuck somehow. | 14:48 |
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veskuh | Yep, and in normal cases alsasink works | 14:56 |
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beford | http://sage.kapsi.fi/Mer/tmp/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n900-testing-0.20120105.0.1.NEMO.2012-01-04.1-mmcblk0p.raw.bz2 still crashes ofonod for me | 15:02 |
Sage | beford: it crashes for me on shutdown or something as well. | 15:04 |
Sage | beford: we need ofono update but that needs rebasing some patches and nobody has done it :/ | 15:04 |
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beford | it has been crasing on boot for me, always, pretty much all of the images I have tested | 15:06 |
beford | crashing* | 15:06 |
Stskeeps | beford: get a backtrace somehow? | 15:07 |
beford | let me see | 15:10 |
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beford | Sage, VKB isn't launching with that image, right? | 15:20 |
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Sage | beford: hmmp... didn't test but it should | 16:01 |
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faenil | evening misters :) | 16:45 |
damnshock | wow, misters... what an honor | 16:59 |
damnshock | anyway... what if any of us is a lady? | 16:59 |
damnshock | :P | 17:01 |
Stskeeps | there are some, at least | 17:01 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:01 |
faenil | dammit, always the same mistake! XD | 17:01 |
faenil | damnshock: at least 2 women have already said that XD | 17:02 |
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faenil | ieatlint and matrixx... | 17:04 |
faenil | women, right? :D | 17:04 |
Stskeeps | i have doubts on ieatlint, but on the internet, everybody may be a dog | 17:05 |
faenil | XD | 17:06 |
faenil | I remember it happened twice, once with matrixx, oh | 17:06 |
faenil | oh yeah! iekku! | 17:06 |
faenil | she was the second one ^^ | 17:07 |
faenil | sorry ieatlint :D | 17:07 |
damnshock | why don't use "guys" (I think that includes both men and women) | 17:14 |
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faenil | damnshock: I change all days :) | 17:21 |
faenil | but happen to use male-only nouns :D | 17:23 |
iekku | :D | 17:24 |
faenil | hi iekku ^_^ | 17:25 |
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iekku | hi guys :D | 17:36 |
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beford | Stskeeps, ofonod -d -n with the crash http://pastie.org/3126272 | 18:13 |
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beford | and bt http://pastie.org/3126290 but its kinda useless I guess I need ofonod with debugging enabled | 18:15 |
Stskeeps | install ofono-debuginfo package | 18:16 |
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Stskeeps | probably glib2-debuginfo too | 18:16 |
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beford | ok | 18:17 |
beford | mer-core, right? | 18:18 |
Stskeeps | right, there's a /debug/ repo | 18:19 |
Stskeeps | might have to be added manually | 18:19 |
beford | no, its there, just enabled=0 | 18:22 |
beford | I can reproduce the crash when entering in the settings->connections->cellular | 18:24 |
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beford | Stskeeps, http://pastie.org/3126509 there is the bt right before it crashes, after crashing the stack gets corrupted | 19:02 |
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marxistvegan | Hi all, I am now running nemo on the N900 so glad to see things get picked up with the demise of meego | 21:42 |
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xruxa | is there some reason user meego cannot see /dev/random ? | 21:44 |
w00t | is there any particular reason you need /dev/random over /dev/urandom? (not that that really answers your question) | 21:45 |
xruxa | w00t: just trying new MAD, it looks for /dev/random when generating passwords | 21:46 |
w00t | ok | 21:47 |
marxistvegan | I have a different question when booting from mmc is there a way to mount and access the emmc to get to music, pictures and contacts? | 21:48 |
beford | i suppose it can be mounted | 21:56 |
marxistvegan | beford: I guess the question is really how, cause I am not sure what the steps would be | 21:57 |
beford | [root@dhcppc0 ~]# mkdir mnt | 21:57 |
beford | [root@dhcppc0 ~]# mount /dev/mmcblk1p1 mnt | 21:57 |
beford | [root@dhcppc0 ~]# cd mnt | 21:57 |
beford | [root@dhcppc0 mnt]# ls | 21:57 |
marxistvegan | beford: ah I see but isn't the mmcblk1p1 the external MicroSD? | 21:58 |
beford | maybe it gets reasigned on nemo | 21:58 |
beford | I get /dev/mmcblk0 as the external uSD and that is where the OS is currently installed | 21:59 |
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marxistvegan | I'll try again later but thanks for the help be back in a bit | 22:05 |
beford | it worked for me | 22:06 |
beford | I just tested it | 22:06 |
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