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| Sage | mornin | 07:08 |
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| Stskeeps | morn sage | 07:09 |
| Stskeeps | i'm building prerelease 0.20120105.0.1 with expected final release on thursday | 07:10 |
| Stskeeps | and integrating it into cobs | 07:10 |
| Stskeeps | i found some nasty toolchain issue that needed solving, so | 07:10 |
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| Sage | morning veskuh | 07:39 |
| veskuh | Morning Sage | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&email1=need-triage&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&priority=Undecided&query_format=advanced&order=bug_id&query_based_on= is the triage list that remains | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | would be good to just get it through to assign priorities | 07:40 |
| Stskeeps | REMINDER: Nemo Bug triage in #mer-meeting in 23 minutes | 07:41 |
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| Sage | http://git.kernel.org/?p=network/connman/connman.git;a=blobdiff;f=ChangeLog;h=2b35dd140107fca99d5d45b71cef21753fb6a89e;hp=b4996d5b18165683e7f338e98b8f84e832453bd3;hb=02f5d5fe2d7c71514a6387ba2b772b42d8e8d297;hpb=1f6c5b248cd0c15d6cb34143ff6f7c8b373fe7d9 | 08:13 |
| Sage | I wonder if that fixes the issue with gprs | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | may be, yes | 08:13 |
| Sage | + Fix issue with handling of cellular devices. | 08:13 |
| Sage | will do package and we can try | 08:13 |
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| xruxa | Morning guys | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | and happy new year :) | 09:21 |
| xruxa | trying to run few more apps straight from N9 on Nemo: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42376952/DSC_1691.JPG You can tell which one is Harmattan and which one Nemo | 09:21 |
| xruxa | Happy New Year to everyone, it will be a good one I hope | 09:21 |
| veskuh | xruxa: we could also prestart every app to get them start quicker :) | 09:22 |
| xruxa | veskuh: lets prestart every working app (that is like 5 or 6 ;) | 09:22 |
| veskuh | :) | 09:22 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: wow, i actually have difficulties telling which is which.. | 09:22 |
| xruxa | veskuh: the browser now starts like a lightning, me like. | 09:23 |
| xruxa | Didn't hear anyone complaining that the latest Darko is green-ish instead of blue-ish. I take it as 'okay' | 09:25 |
| veskuh | xruxa: Yep, its good to have a bit of own personality in it. | 09:26 |
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| norayr | cxl000: did you consider possibility to use cordia on n810 adaptation of nemomobile instead of razor-qt envirenment? | 09:54 |
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| w00t | given that hildon-desktop(/cordia) makes use of opengl, and the n8x0 opengl isn't exactly in the best of states (and llvmpipe doesn't work on ARM), I think you'd have a problem there | 09:58 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: easy to say which one is which as battery monitor doesn't work on nemo and n950/n9 :) | 10:07 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:08 |
| xruxa | Sage: how about swap ? | 10:08 |
| Sage | xruxa: we don't have swap on there that is true as well | 10:09 |
| Sage | however, with that amount of mem free I don't see need atm :) | 10:09 |
| * xruxa should have made a 'spot 10 differences' puzzle for you guys instead ;) | 10:09 | |
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| Sage | xruxa: what is that app btw? Looks something we might want to include to nemo images if it is OSS | 10:14 |
| Sage | do we have anyone from kernel side with us atm.? | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | i don't think we have (paid) kernel personell at least | 10:19 |
| xruxa | Sage: resource monitor. I have only binaries copied from N9 | 10:20 |
| Sage | xruxa: ah, ok | 10:20 |
| Sage | xruxa: refresh icon missing btw | 10:20 |
| xruxa | Sage: fixed already in GIT | 10:20 |
| Sage | ok | 10:21 |
| Sage | xruxa: what about the missing icons in terminal (copypaste and options) | 10:21 |
| xruxa | Sage: I need ID's, term seems to be meegotouch app, not component app (?) | 10:21 |
| Sage | yes, MTF app | 10:21 |
| xruxa | would need to run themedaemon in debug output mode first, no big deal, will fix | 10:22 |
| Sage | https://gitorious.org/meego-terminal/meego-terminal/trees/master ;) | 10:22 |
| xruxa | or ^ | 10:22 |
| xruxa | if that is the same as the one on N9, why doesn't it have the input method panel with arrows, crtl and tab ? | 10:24 |
| Sage | it is the same one | 10:27 |
| xruxa | got the IDs: http://pastie.org/3111535 | 10:28 |
| xruxa | w/me is Wondering if it is the same terminal (and I see the custom input panel xmls there) why we do not see them on Nemo? | 10:29 |
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| veskuh | xruxa: I do not think toolbar works in the qml vkb | 10:32 |
| Sage | xruxa: how to turn on the debug that prints those? | 10:40 |
| Sage | xruxa: settings->about my device->about product is missing at least one icon (this should go to some other package probably) | 10:41 |
| xruxa | Sage: /usr/bin/mthemedaemon -output-level debug | 10:44 |
| veskuh | Sage: and same option works also for many MTF apps we have | 10:45 |
| xruxa | mtf-ce-configs could provide that about product icon | 10:45 |
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| Sage | I'm discussing about the grps thing with connman people atm. so we could finally get the grps back :) | 10:48 |
| Sage | xruxa: yes it provides the license text as well | 10:48 |
| * Stskeeps heads out for lunch | 10:52 | |
| norayr | w00t: is hildon desktop diablo version open source? | 10:56 |
| w00t | norayr: I have no idea, diablo was before my time really | 10:57 |
| norayr | w00t: cxl000: I like hildon version of diablo. Having running it on mer would be nice. Once I have a spare device I'll try to compile it on mer. | 10:59 |
| smoku | norayr: it's open. it's available in Debian for example | 11:00 |
| norayr | smoku: wow. that's even better. | 11:00 |
| * norayr went to my debian box to apt-cache search | 11:01 | |
| smoku | norayr: but I would recommend resurrecting old Mer's customized LXDE | 11:01 |
| smoku | Stskeeps should have it somewhere | 11:01 |
| norayr | smoku: dmm, I never tried it. Hildon has applet bar and already developed applets. It looks like mobile environment. | 11:04 |
| Sage | veskuh, Stskeeps: grps works with head of connman. They have refactored the whole ofono plugin and well now it works nicely on my n900 at least. | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: cool | 11:04 |
| Sage | veskuh: could you test on n950 if this works on it as well? https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=connman&project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3AMer%3Afake%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl | 11:04 |
| veskuh | Sage: Cool! Sure. | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | expected next release = ? | 11:05 |
| norayr | smoku: Actually I would prefer something like windowmaker, just still have no idea how to optimize it for small screens. | 11:05 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: not sure yet. Asking | 11:05 |
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| norayr | Docks are very nice, just the menu is not useful on a mobile device. | 11:06 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: there is over 50 patches to the ofono part so cherry picking those isn't really an option :) | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: would lipstick suck on non gles machines? | 11:07 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: at present yeah, it'd function, but i'd not recommend it | 11:08 |
| norayr | Besides, about non-gles machines and n810: I believe that N810 is the best designed NIT ever. I mean the appearance. It's way better than n900 and they both uncomparably cooler than n9. | 11:11 |
| norayr | didn't soo the live n950 though | 11:12 |
| norayr | see* | 11:12 |
| Sage | where is the upstream for hildon btw? | 11:14 |
| w00t | there effectively isn't one | 11:15 |
| w00t | it died with fremantle | 11:15 |
| w00t | (as in there's only forks left) | 11:15 |
| Sage | ah | 11:15 |
| Sage | is there active fork somewhere? | 11:15 |
| w00t | cordia probably? :) | 11:16 |
| Sage | smoku: ^ :) | 11:17 |
| Sage | what would be the best very lightweight ux for non-gles machine | 11:18 |
| * Sage is thinking of N810 atm. :) | 11:19 | |
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| smoku | Sage: most active hildon fork is the CSSU | 11:21 |
| smoku | Sage: best lightweight ux - my bet is on Unity 2D | 11:22 |
| smoku | I have a fork of hildon ported to upstream clutter, and another one ported to gnome3. both semi-functional ;-) | 11:25 |
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| veskuh | Sage: Installed connman to n950. No gprs. Wifi works. | 11:37 |
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| Sage | veskuh: ok, maybe a problem with the ofono on n950 then | 11:45 |
| veskuh | hard to say. also route -n did not give me anything | 11:46 |
| xruxa | why there is no 'tar' on N950? File a bug? | 11:46 |
| Sage | xruxa: well it is not required by anything :) | 11:47 |
| xruxa | Sage: it is there on N900, would make tracking issues easier if those configs were really close to each other | 11:47 |
| Sage | xruxa: hmmp... if it is on n900 it should be on n950 as well | 11:48 |
| Sage | hmmp | 11:48 |
| Sage | it shouldn't be on n900 either actually something brings mkinitrd to the image that brings tar | 11:49 |
| Sage | xruxa: we should add tar to http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer/project-core.git;a=blob;f=patterns/mer-core-utils.yaml;h=295070c1292201fda808ebdd5b0da20e2b86d97d;hb=6f05f4f789909c6f0027ddd2f34884bc89f33267 | 11:50 |
| xruxa | I'd like to have tar, if we drop it we can start thinking why we really need vi and such too. It is just the sane base to have. | 11:50 |
| Sage | xruxa: I don't disagree, just need to add it to Mer package group not to nemo image configs | 11:51 |
| * xruxa is getting pissed at the ssh/scp slowness on N950 too, feels for veskuh | 11:52 | |
| Sage | xruxa: http://review.merproject.org/273 happy? :) | 11:53 |
| veskuh | xruxa: yep, bug #46 is very very annoyning. | 11:53 |
| xruxa | Sage: happy | 11:54 |
| xruxa | veskuh: must be one of the subtle differences between N900 and N950 images that does that, maybe missing tar? (joking) | 11:54 |
| * Sage ponders what brings mkinitrd to n900 image | 11:57 | |
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| Sage | phaeron: is the obs updated to support the new pattern structure already btw? | 12:01 |
| Sage | veskuh: if you could can you do following with N950. Add -d to /lib/systemd/system/ofono.service and /lib/systemd/system/connman.service when updated to the 0.78~git after that reboot and get dmesg output when grps is attempted | 12:26 |
| veskuh | Sure | 12:26 |
| Stskeeps | we really need some kind of service that we can flag to get the device to generate debug logs.. | 12:26 |
| Stskeeps | kinda like how you can query a car for failures/enable diagnosis | 12:27 |
| Sage | that would be nice | 12:30 |
| Sage | however enabling debug for different services isn't really easy job as they all have different ways for debugging | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | systemctl enable .service --debug ? | 12:31 |
| veskuh | Collecting all the ways to debug to wiki would be a start | 12:31 |
| Sage | veskuh: yes | 12:31 |
| Sage | For Mer and for Nemo mobile separately. | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/show?project=CE%3AAdaptation%3Ax86-generic <- uses armv8el instead of i586 | 12:34 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: ah, my bad | 12:34 |
| Sage | fixed | 12:35 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: could you create a repomd-pattern-builder project to mer gitweb so I could submit the script to mer core. | 12:35 |
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| Sage | would like to get the package groups out of my desk already :) | 12:36 |
| Sage | what dir should that script be installed btw? | 12:37 |
| veskuh | darn, after ofono update no more cellular | 12:37 |
| Sage | /usr/bin/repomd-pattern-builder.py ? | 12:37 |
| Sage | veskuh: on what device? | 12:37 |
| Sage | veskuh: and what ofono? | 12:37 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: yes, hang on | 12:38 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: will it be a package or a tool? | 12:39 |
| veskuh | Sage on n950 ofono 1.0-6.2 | 12:39 |
| Sage | veskuh: ofono 1.0 from which repo? | 12:40 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: package that is dependency of the pattern packages | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 12:41 |
| Sage | and/or package group packages | 12:41 |
| veskuh | I have no idea which repo it came from, how can I know? | 12:41 |
| Sage | zypper info ofono | 12:41 |
| veskuh | Repository: @System | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: mer-core/repomd-pattern-builder | 12:42 |
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| faenil | morning :D | 12:48 |
| xruxa | Sage, veskuh : updated meegotouch-theme-darko in Project:MTF:UX . It should bring the missing icons to terminal. | 12:53 |
| faenil | so when is the next meeting going to be held? | 12:54 |
| Stskeeps | there was a bug triage this morning | 12:55 |
| Stskeeps | and in the afternoon a mer bug triage | 12:55 |
| Stskeeps | tomorrow SG meeting | 12:55 |
| Sage | xruxa: great | 12:55 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: when the nemo bug triage was in 1 hour? | 12:55 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: err... mer bug triage | 12:55 |
| faenil | Stskeeps: thanks :) | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: 14:00 UTC | 12:56 |
| faenil | and is there any deadline for the next release? | 12:57 |
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| Sage | \o/ my n950 is alive again \o/ | 13:08 |
| Sage | thx to ssirkia's older f14 installation :) | 13:08 |
| veskuh | Great :) | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | woo :) | 13:08 |
| Sage | OCF fails on f15 and f16 apparentely and works on f14 :P | 13:08 |
| Sage | at least on my case | 13:09 |
| dazo | yet another reason to stay on f14 for a bit longer | 13:09 |
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| Sage | lol, first flash with my f15 and I think my n950 is in bad state again :/ | 13:33 |
| ssirkia | :-) | 13:34 |
| w00t | strange | 13:34 |
| w00t | I haven't had problems flashing an N9 on f16 | 13:34 |
| Sage | yes, but I guess you don't have laptop made by HP :) | 13:34 |
| w00t | also true | 13:34 |
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| phaeron | Sage: ping lbt | 13:42 |
| Sage | ssirkia: well rd mode helped :P | 13:53 |
| ssirkia | :-) | 13:54 |
| Sage | or | 13:55 |
| lbt | phaeron: Sage ? | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | morn lbt | 13:57 |
| lbt | morning | 13:57 |
| lbt | ish | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | bug triage in 7 minutes for Mer, in #mer-meeting | 13:57 |
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| lbt | yep - why I'm here :) | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:57 |
| phaeron | lbt: sage was asking about obs upgrade | 13:58 |
| lbt | phaeron: OK - we should be doing some planning for our infra | 13:59 |
| phaeron | yes | 14:00 |
| lbt | we have to think about moving away and getting a new c.obs setup with Stefan's hardware | 14:00 |
| lbt | I need to catch Scriptripper too - I have a ping from him | 14:01 |
| lbt | and we need to be a bit more consistent with the systems space and toolchains .... eg qemu | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | toolchains/qemu from Mer POV is much more consistent | 14:02 |
| Stskeeps | it's part of the project | 14:02 |
| Stskeeps | with SB2-OBS integration | 14:02 |
| lbt | yes, that will fall out nicely | 14:02 |
| lbt | 2pm | 14:03 |
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| Sage | nice, kernel crashed on my laptop when I took n950 usb out :). | 14:07 |
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| faenil | Sage: I had that problem with ubuntu 11.04 if I'm not wrong, when taking N8 out | 14:54 |
| xruxa | are there somewhere real sources for e.g. Kasvopus? The ones I can find are some 6 months old snapshot ... | 14:59 |
| veskuh | Hmm.. I can find 8months old sources so you did find better ones.. | 15:00 |
| xruxa | ;) | 15:00 |
| * xruxa disassembling the 1.2.2 deb to hand install on Nemo | 15:01 | |
| xruxa | veskuh: Kasvopus 1.2.2 works. Now only if we could get sources :( | 15:11 |
| xruxa | veskuh: could someone ping Ville or the author? | 15:13 |
| Stskeeps | who was kasvopous author? | 15:13 |
| xruxa | Tommi Laukkanen or something like that | 15:13 |
| xruxa | same with TwimGo | 15:13 |
| veskuh | Yep, that's the guy. villev did the packaging for us. | 15:13 |
| veskuh | I'll ping them | 15:16 |
| Sage | ok, time to call it a day and take care of some errands. | 15:28 |
| Stskeeps | cya | 15:28 |
| Sage | cya | 15:28 |
| veskuh | bye | 15:28 |
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| * Sage has flashed the n950 with ocf already couple of times with success in the end. But still not booting harmattan. :/ | 18:52 | |
| Sage | device turns on and I can see the warning about modified software | 18:52 |
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| virtuald | hyaa. how's the n9 version coming along? | 23:16 |
| beford | n9 isn't here yet | 23:16 |
| beford | afaik | 23:17 |
| virtuald | what does that mean? | 23:17 |
| beford | nemo for n9? | 23:17 |
| beford | :P | 23:17 |
| virtuald | wiki says work is ongoing | 23:18 |
| virtuald | is it in git? | 23:18 |
| beford | there is some guide to installing the n950 image | 23:18 |
| virtuald | :) | 23:18 |
| virtuald | is it different from installing it on n950? | 23:18 |
| virtuald | and do i need a keyboard? | 23:19 |
| beford | can't find the guide, ask Stskeeps :P | 23:20 |
| virtuald | :) | 23:21 |
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