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Sage | morning | 07:12 |
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Sage | anyone here with Nemo running on N9? | 08:12 |
veskuh | Sage: I've got proto on shelf waiting for install, so I'll have one soon hopefully :) | 08:14 |
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* Sage ponders how to downgrade packages with zypper | 08:24 | |
veskuh | install packge=version | 08:24 |
marquiz | Sage: i spent some time with mce yesterday | 08:26 |
marquiz | Sage: not ready to submit upgrade, yet, as the screen blanking is causing issues (again) | 08:26 |
marquiz | seems it's some driver (kernel/x) problem, but i guess i have to hack around it in mce | 08:27 |
marquiz | Stskeeps: are you planning to upgrade to the very latest sgx-drivers for n900/n950? | 08:28 |
Sage | marquiz: Stskeeps is already on vacation coming back on 28th. | 08:31 |
Sage | marquiz: with the sgx the things is that it needs also Xorg patches if I understood correctly and those are not in upstream yet | 08:32 |
veskuh | I got Heliurm ported to use Qt Quick Components. Anyone interested to try can download heliumreborn from http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/vesku/CE_MW_MTF_armv7hl/ | 08:38 |
veskuh | HeliumReborn does not replace Helium at the moment. It installs as new app to app grid | 08:38 |
marquiz | Sage: ok, merry christmas Stskeeps ;) | 08:41 |
marquiz | Sage: yeah, that'd need xserver upgrade, and possibly those patches are never merged upstream | 08:42 |
marquiz | (they're available from the mailing lists, though) | 08:42 |
marquiz | how about "forking" xserver to be part of the n9xx adaptation? ;) | 08:43 |
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Sage | I'm not very fond of forking xserver as that would soon mean that we fork also other things. | 08:47 |
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Sage | but well if that is what it needs then yes, but I hope we would have options for that. | 08:47 |
Sage | xruxa: some missing graphics in darko btw. Want a list? | 08:47 |
xruxa | Yes | 08:48 |
xruxa | coming from meegotouch of from components> | 08:48 |
xruxa | ? | 08:48 |
Sage | hmmp... actually no errors | 08:49 |
Sage | anyway battery thing is missing from upper left corner for me | 08:49 |
xruxa | I went on spree and added tons of graphics for Components | 08:50 |
xruxa | Sage: I get this sometimes, that is goes big and green, but then it is fine after reboot | 08:50 |
Sage | also new terminal is missing some graphics that are a supposed to be transparent on the upper right corner | 08:51 |
Sage | one is copypaste I guess and another options menu | 08:51 |
xruxa | I'm stuck in reboot loop after some updates yesterday evening :( | 08:52 |
Sage | also we are missing nemo image from ce-mtf-configs it seems that is supposed to be shown in settings->about my device->about product | 08:53 |
Sage | w00t: virtual bool MSwipeExtension::x11Event(XEvent*) Releasing grab | 08:55 |
Sage | did you patch that out already somewhere? :) | 08:56 |
w00t | no, I will today | 08:57 |
* w00t has scrum at work atm, so not just now though | 08:58 | |
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Sage | w00t: cool thx. NEMO#21 | 09:02 |
Sage | xruxa: you were right the battery icon works on second boot ok | 09:03 |
xruxa | Sage: but it is annoying, as it comes randomly for me. Plus the updated meegotouch stuff has issue when one rotated application, some bits go green for no reason. | 09:04 |
veskuh | xruxa: yep, seen the same issue randomly on random places | 09:05 |
mikhas | usually means graphics did not load fast enough | 09:05 |
mikhas | this behaviour was used for debugging and can be disabled somehwere, I think | 09:06 |
* Sage is bit concerned about the fact that our memory consumption has gone up | 09:06 | |
xruxa | mikhas: we need to know more. What I saw was wrong graphics being used in certain orientation (e.g. portrait toolbar in landscape) | 09:07 |
mikhas | xruxa, ok, try to make a video from it? | 09:07 |
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Sage | Biggest memory consumers are: meegotouchhome, dialer, sysuid, Xorg and maliit-server | 09:07 |
mikhas | Sage, maliit-server caches used graphics, but should not use more than 30MB | 09:08 |
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Sage | question does something in our image use tracker-miner-fs atm? | 09:14 |
Sage | or depend on it | 09:14 |
veskuh | I'm guessing but photos probably will not work without it | 09:15 |
veskuh | as it will not find any photos | 09:15 |
veskuh | xruxa: You could perhaps add a simple local-file gallery functionality to flickr app and we could get rid of photos app? | 09:16 |
Sage | wow, systemuid crashed | 09:16 |
Sage | marquiz: btw, there is a lot of messages from mce to dmesg atm. http://pastie.org/3056407 | 09:18 |
Sage | marquiz: not sure if those are lack of kernel patches or lack of kernel configs or just something else | 09:18 |
marquiz | mce is just not able to get some configuration information | 09:19 |
marquiz | those come to dmesg through systemd | 09:20 |
Sage | yes, we don't have /var/log/messages but systemd uses dmesg | 09:20 |
Sage | is mce trying to connect to session dbus? | 09:21 |
marquiz | Sage: i think so (not entirely sure, though) | 09:22 |
marquiz | but seems that the architecture is somewhat twisted | 09:22 |
marquiz | afaiu, mce connects to system dbus and then tries to connect to session dbus, too | 09:23 |
Sage | w00t, xruxa, veskuh, marquiz, et al.: I'm going to build release today around 15:00 so if you have patches coming in and want to get them in to todays image that is the deadline. | 09:25 |
w00t | Sage: do you use f16? | 09:26 |
Sage | f15 haven't had time to update to f16 | 09:27 |
marquiz | Sage: i only have SR#3762 | 09:27 |
w00t | Sage: do you use osc from fedora's repos? | 09:30 |
Sage | w00t: I think I have one from opensuse | 09:31 |
Sage | marquiz: BuildRequires: libcreds2-devel ? | 09:31 |
* w00t just tries that one :) | 09:31 | |
Sage | Version : 0.132.4 | 09:32 |
Sage | Release : 1.fc15 | 09:32 |
Sage | I have that one | 09:32 |
Sage | apparently from fedora then :) | 09:32 |
Sage | Build Host : x86-04.phx2.fedoraproject.org | 09:32 |
w00t | http 401 | 09:33 |
w00t | a successful start to the osc day | 09:33 |
w00t | ok, i think the problem is that it tries to get my password from the keyring, but it's no longer there | 09:37 |
w00t | anyone had tha tproblem before? | 09:37 |
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* xruxa is gone for roadtrip. Enjoy the holidays guys. | 10:19 | |
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veskuh | xruxa: you too! | 10:22 |
* w00t is still trying to work out what a holiday is | 10:24 | |
w00t | :-P | 10:24 |
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Stskeeps | w00t: edit .oscrc | 10:28 |
w00t | Stskeeps: i don't want to put my password in it | 10:29 |
dcthang | Dconf is being used in Nemo? | 10:32 |
dcthang | or it is used already? | 10:32 |
Sage | veskuh: can you test if anything breaks after you install http://repo.pub.meego.com/Project:/MTF:/UX/CE_UX_MTF_armv7hl/armv7hl/dsme-0.62.1.1-1.1.Project.MTF.UX.armv7hl.rpm to your N950 | 10:41 |
* Sage is testing N900 atm. | 10:41 | |
veskuh | Sage: Sure, should I test that first or the N9 fix you had (just got N9 with Nemo to boot). | 10:42 |
Sage | veskuh: if you have N9 then definitely that :) | 10:42 |
Stskeeps | w00t: remove the section | 10:43 |
Sage | marquiz: http://pastie.org/3056693 what is that /etc/init.conf ? | 10:45 |
marquiz | Sage: don't know ;) might be related to security | 10:47 |
marquiz | doesn't stop dsme running/working, though | 10:47 |
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Sage | true | 10:47 |
Sage | just wondering if we should touch /etc/init.conf :) | 10:47 |
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Sage | wow, it is a huge file on N9 | 10:51 |
w00t | Stskeeps: I removed my whole .oscrc, it's still broken | 10:51 |
Sage | mentioning lot of different conf files and binaries | 10:51 |
Sage | marquiz: seems to be related something for security or so. I'm guessing that all those files needs to be in the filesystem or device doesn't boot | 10:52 |
Sage | marquiz: did touch /etc/init.conf and device went to reboot loop :P | 10:54 |
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marquiz | Sage: don't add it ;) | 10:58 |
marquiz | dsme works/boots just fine without it | 10:58 |
Sage | had to try :) | 10:58 |
marquiz | :D | 10:59 |
Sage | w00t: compiled fine testing soon | 11:01 |
w00t | :) | 11:02 |
Sage | w00t: works forwarding | 11:06 |
w00t | excellent | 11:06 |
w00t | shall i resolve? | 11:06 |
Sage | sure | 11:08 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3768 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3768 | 11:08 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3769 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3769 | 11:08 |
Sage | 3 bugs to release/verify still and then everything should be set for release from my pow. | 11:09 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3770 Rejected promotion request | 11:09 |
veskuh | Nemo on N9 is annoyingly slow compared to N950 | 11:10 |
Sage | is there a way to do copypac with osc so that the obs revision would also stay there. | 11:10 |
Sage | veskuh: rpm -qa | grep pulseaudio | 11:12 |
Sage | veskuh: on N9 | 11:12 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3771 waiting for review at https://build.pub.meego.com//request/show/3771 | 11:13 |
veskuh | Sage: pulseaudio-0.9.22-1.1 | 11:14 |
Sage | nothing else? | 11:14 |
Sage | wow | 11:14 |
veskuh | sorry, typo :) | 11:14 |
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Sage | veskuh: also what does boardname cmd print | 11:15 |
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Sage | veskuh: and rpm -ql pulseaudio-settings-n950 | 11:16 |
veskuh | Sage: hmm.. I've got n950-settings twice. | 11:16 |
Sage | yey our zypper bug :) | 11:16 |
veskuh | stupid user, I installed rpm -i instead of rpm -U | 11:17 |
Sage | remove and reinstall :) | 11:17 |
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veskuh | apperently over ssh it is slow but not locally | 11:24 |
Sage | there was that one patch needed for the kernel IIRC but not sure if that is submitted. Stskeeps mentioned something about that already some time ago. | 11:25 |
veskuh | Well, the error is still there | 11:26 |
veskuh | and boardname is arm_nokia_rm_696_board_1303 on my device | 11:26 |
Sage | hmmp | 11:26 |
Sage | what is the output of rpm -ql pulseaudio-settings-n950 and rpm -qa | grep pulseaudio | 11:27 |
veskuh | hmm.. but I have a proto on the bug report there is 1603 | 11:27 |
Sage | that shouldn't matter we don't compare board revisions here | 11:27 |
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veskuh | Sage: http://pastie.org/3056838 | 11:28 |
Sage | lol | 11:28 |
Sage | rpm -ql pulseaudio-settings-n950 | 11:28 |
Sage | rpm -qa | grep pulseaudio | 11:28 |
veskuh | Sage: ah, I saw it now :) | 11:28 |
veskuh | Sage: first http://pastie.org/3056844 | 11:30 |
veskuh | Sage: and second http://pastie.org/3056848 | 11:31 |
Sage | try: rm /etc/pulse/arm_nokia_rm_696_board.pa; cp /etc/pulse/arm_nokia_rm_680_board.pa /etc/pulse/arm_nokia_rm_696_board.pa | 11:31 |
Sage | after that I'm out of ideas pretty much for now. | 11:34 |
veskuh | no | 11:35 |
Sage | didn't help | 11:37 |
Sage | ? | 11:37 |
veskuh | Same error | 11:37 |
Sage | http://mer.bfst.de/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2011-12-01.log.html#t2011-12-01T10:26:23 | 11:38 |
Sage | based on the log that should solve it | 11:38 |
Sage | cat /etc/boardname | 11:38 |
Sage | maybe dcthang did something else that isn't mentioned there | 11:39 |
veskuh | reboot did not help | 11:40 |
Sage | dmesg | grep pulseaudio | 11:41 |
Sage | dmesg | grep boardname | 11:41 |
Sage | veskuh: ^ | 11:41 |
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veskuh | Sage: I get nothign | 11:51 |
veskuh | dmesg is full of connmand stuff | 11:51 |
veskuh | apparently it loves USB connections or something | 11:52 |
marquiz | veskuh: yeah, there's something badly wrong there ;) | 12:08 |
marquiz | sometimes it just stays fully crazy, sometimes it settles after a while | 12:09 |
veskuh | marquiz: yep, have seen same here | 12:09 |
marquiz | that has been a problem a long time | 12:10 |
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marquiz | i wonder who might have the time and motivation to debug/inspect connman - what's really going on there | 12:11 |
Sage | marquiz: did you teste dsme with n950? | 12:15 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3768 Accepted promotion request | 12:17 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3771 Rejected promotion request | 12:17 |
marquiz | Sage: yes | 12:17 |
marquiz | i'm leaving for christmas holiday, in few minutes | 12:20 |
marquiz | i'll be back on tuesday | 12:21 |
Sage | have a nice holiday | 12:21 |
Sage | veskuh: dialer behaves badly again doesn't pop up on calls after the first one. Also no sound in the darko theme still | 12:22 |
marquiz | Sage: thanks! not that long holiday, but still better than nothing ;) | 12:22 |
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marquiz | merry christmas, everyone | 12:22 |
marquiz | or should i be politically more correct: seasonal greetings to everyone :D | 12:22 |
veskuh | marquiz: you too :) | 12:23 |
marquiz | veskuh: thx | 12:23 |
marquiz | see ya | 12:23 |
Sage | cya | 12:23 |
veskuh | Sage: I'll update and see quickly if there is clear reason | 12:24 |
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Sage | do at least NEMO#41 seems to need reopen imo | 12:27 |
Sage | https://bugs.nemomobile.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=9%2C7%2C33%2C44%2C41%2C47%2C21%2C36 | 12:30 |
Sage | list of bugs that should be fixed | 12:30 |
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Sage | dsme is currently in the process but will be released soon | 12:30 |
Sage | 33 is reopen state and needs better fix. 41 doesn't work for me at least | 12:31 |
veskuh | For 41 you also need new theme-ce | 12:32 |
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Sage | hmmp | 12:33 |
Sage | I have that | 12:34 |
the-boss | phaeron lbt sage stskeeps SR#3769 Accepted promotion request | 12:34 |
veskuh | Ok, then in the new package there is still something wrong | 12:34 |
veskuh | in ce-mtf-configs I mean | 12:34 |
veskuh | Yep, I got new packaground but no darko | 12:35 |
Sage | hmmp... now the audio works | 12:35 |
Sage | changed themes could of times from settings | 12:35 |
Sage | couple | 12:35 |
Sage | and dialer seems to work again as well. | 12:39 |
veskuh | Yep, there is some issues in dialer definitely. For example when pinquery does not work on startup, after manual start of pinquery, the dialer does not work always correctly | 12:40 |
iekku | 2 | 12:41 |
Sage | ok, I'll build the release now. no more updates in my knowledge for today anymore, right? | 12:41 |
veskuh | Not from me. | 12:41 |
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veskuh | Sage: yep, after zypper update no default theme change. after reboot pinquery ok and dialer alarm ok | 13:01 |
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Sage | ok, uploading images | 13:05 |
veskuh | hmm.. but on the other hand I saw theme-ce to test if theme is already set and skipping becasue it was. That is correct behaviour. So the fault must be in ce-mtf-configs | 13:05 |
veskuh | Sage: and remember the kernel :) | 13:06 |
Sage | forgot it already :D | 13:06 |
Sage | vmlinuz right? | 13:08 |
veskuh | Ah, but after reboot got the theme correctly :) | 13:08 |
veskuh | Sage: yep | 13:09 |
Sage | ok, will disappear for a while and come back later to do the release note. | 13:10 |
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Sage | ok, release is out | 14:53 |
veskuh | Nice. We have a christmas release :) | 14:55 |
veskuh | wiki is still out of captcha images | 14:57 |
w00t | who maintains the wiki? lbt? | 15:01 |
veskuh | alterego I think | 15:01 |
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lardman | I just saw a video of Nemo running on an HP Touchpad, does that use hw acceleration? | 15:10 |
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lardman | Stskeeps: btw where is your LLVMpipe stuff, in the repo? | 15:12 |
Stskeeps | in my own obs atm, but seemingily LLVM jit isn't working well for arm | 15:13 |
* lardman wonders if the current Jazelle hw can only do Java bytecode interpretation | 15:13 | |
lardman | but Stskeeps is it quicker then not using it? | 15:17 |
lardman | s/then/than | 15:17 |
Stskeeps | basically we need to try it out on arm and see how bad it is | 15:18 |
lardman | well I'm game | 15:19 |
Stskeeps | i'm just at xmas vacation without laptop till tomorrow ;) | 15:20 |
lardman | ok, I'm on holiday from tomorrow, so that works for me | 15:21 |
kimju | oh nice, llvm.org frontpage starts (in 2nd sentence) with "Despite its name, LLVM has little to do with traditional virtual machines", but the name is not explained anywhere in that page. (yes, I know what it means) | 15:21 |
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* lardman wishes his quad core machine were faster... | 15:23 | |
Stskeeps | basically they say llvm jit is totally broken for arm and i think llvmpipe uses jit a lot | 15:23 |
Stskeeps | maybe if we disable that use.. | 15:24 |
lardman | presumably there's a dep on an llvm runtime then is there? | 15:24 |
Stskeeps | not sure, should study llvmpipe code | 15:25 |
lardman | righty-ho | 15:25 |
* lardman thinks hacking SGX540 userspace binaries to use hummingbird powervr kernel module might be a better plan, but for the lack of hardfloat | 15:26 | |
Stskeeps | can't you use exonys? | 15:27 |
Stskeeps | drivers | 15:27 |
lardman | sure, I have a kernel module, but I need the userspace | 15:27 |
lardman | also need to do some things to the kernel module afaiu to make it play with Xorg | 15:27 |
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damnshock | new release ready to test :) I'll to it this evening hehe :D | 15:29 |
lardman | so re Nemo on the Playbook, is that hw accelerated? | 15:29 |
lardman | Touchbook even | 15:29 |
* w00t doesn't know | 15:30 | |
w00t | I don't even know who does the pb adaptation.. | 15:30 |
lardman | http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/11/nemo-running-hp-touchpad/ is all I saw | 15:30 |
lardman | touchpad | 15:30 |
lardman | I'll eventually get the name right.... | 15:30 |
lardman | It's Qualcomm adreno and I thought that had very poor Linux support for the userspace stuff | 15:31 |
* lardman thinks perhaps he should revisit using sw opengl-es and see if something else is going wrong not that | 15:34 | |
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Stskeeps | lardman: llvmpipe would be the best sw opengl es | 15:43 |
lardman | yep of course but it would be nice to get something I can look at before spending yet more time messing about with code | 15:46 |
lardman | I could do with some motivational pretty screens ;) | 15:46 |
Stskeeps | understandable | 15:46 |
lardman | But certainly I'll give it a go over the Christmas break | 15:46 |
lardman | I found your repo, so will build a new image for the Tab with my modifications already in, and see where we can go from there | 15:47 |
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* lardman grumbles that Upstart suffers from the same problem as systemd in that it doesn't tell you why it's failed | 15:48 | |
lardman | Ubuntu booted and gave me a login prompt first time, but then I configures the packages I'd installed (in chroot, hadn't mounted proc) and now it also fails during the startup process | 15:49 |
lardman | rather frustrating all things considered | 15:50 |
lardman | but that was just an aside as they have the OMAP4 opengl-es libraries | 15:53 |
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Stskeeps | it is samsung sgx right? | 16:07 |
lardman | It's got a PowerVR SGX540 | 16:07 |
lardman | so same GPU as the OMAP4 devices, hence my interest in the Pandaboard Ubuntu drivers | 16:08 |
Stskeeps | ok, isn't it in any way related to the exynos devel board? | 16:08 |
lardman | but I've been too busy recently to do much investigation | 16:08 |
lardman | well I guess it is in a way, it's an Exynos processor | 16:08 |
lardman | but not a 4xxx device which is I think the current devel board for which code is available | 16:09 |
lardman | Origen | 16:09 |
lardman | but I've not looked to see what GPU that uses tbh | 16:10 |
Stskeeps | i'd see if you can use sgx libs from there | 16:10 |
lardman | I think it might be Mali | 16:11 |
Stskeeps | linaro supports it so | 16:11 |
Stskeeps | arh.. | 16:11 |
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lardman | yeah it is mali http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos | 16:11 |
lardman | Exynos 3110 is the one in the Tab | 16:11 |
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lardman | bbl | 16:20 |
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* dazo is trying the latest Nemo release | 18:44 | |
dazo | I'm pretty much impressed ... running on N900 | 18:44 |
dazo | just too pity the class10 SD card isn't faster! I would be willing to run this on a daily basis if it would be a bit more responsive on the apps | 18:46 |
dazo | when apps are running and don't need disk IO, it's pretty decent .... but in the moment disk IO hits, it lags | 18:47 |
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Stskeeps | yeah, it is a weak spot | 18:56 |
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araujo | mmm... | 19:22 |
araujo | Sage, have you considered to add a gtk+ repo by now? | 19:22 |
araujo | :P | 19:22 |
Stskeeps | why.. :P | 19:22 |
araujo | Stskeeps, why not? :P | 19:26 |
araujo | or I wonder, if there is a way to get some extra-repos ? | 19:26 |
dazo | sure possible to set up your own at least | 19:27 |
berndhs | zypper ar ? | 19:27 |
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alfredtessman | hello guys! i am writing from the irc chat from the latest nemo release. I want to contribute translating more stuff into russian. please contact me at alfred.tessman@gmail.com for further instructions. Thank you! | 20:05 |
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araujo | darko theme! | 21:43 |
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lardman | I get "Error: No repositories found" when trying to run mic-image-creator, I couldn't see this mentioned in the list of common errors, any ideas? | 23:38 |
beford | pastebin the whole command you are using lardman | 23:38 |
lardman | ah, I've not specified the .ks file | 23:39 |
lardman | too late in the evening.... | 23:39 |
lardman | thanks berndhs :) | 23:39 |
lardman | or beford even | 23:40 |
lardman | ok, next error, it wants me to specify the mainrepo | 23:45 |
lardman | Error: Please specify main repo name using --mainrepo option. | 23:46 |
lardman | this is my command line: sudo mic-image-creator -f fs --compress-disk-image=tar.bz2 --pkgmgr=yum --arch=armv7hl -c ./nemo-handset-armv7hl-gt-p1000-testing-0.20111208.2.NEMO.2011-12-22.1.ks | 23:47 |
vgrade | mic-create-bootstrap -n trunk -k /var/cache/mic -r http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/latest/repos/oss/ia32/packages/ -o /var/cache/meego-bootstrap | 23:49 |
lardman | I need a bootstrap do I? I read about that for OpenSUSE | 23:50 |
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vgrade | that is usually the thing which is recommended when yuo get that mainrepo error | 23:50 |
lardman | ok and then I need to chroot into that before I run mic-create-image? | 23:51 |
lardman | or rather mic-chroot? | 23:51 |
vgrade | no mic does it | 23:51 |
lardman | ah ok | 23:51 |
lardman | vgrade: any ideas roughly how long it takes to download the packages for the bootstrap? Am wondering whether to kill it and hit the sack or sit it out for a few more minutes | 23:57 |
* lardman decides to kill it to avoid falling sleep on the kb | 23:59 | |
lardman | thanks and night chaps, catch you tomorrow | 23:59 |
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