#nemomobile log for Tuesday, 2011-12-06

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dcthangQt Guesture running on N950?08:39
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niqtthe channel is silent today..is todaya meeting on nemomobile-meeting?09:52
Stskeepsit's finnish independence day/a holiday so i think we're skipping09:52
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dcthangDo we have this pack libqt4-declarative-gestures somewhere?10:04
Stskeepshttp://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20111120.1/builds/armv7hl/packages/armv7hl/libqtdeclarative4-gestures-4.8.0~rc1-1.2.armv7hl.rpm10:08
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Stskeepshttp://releases.merproject.org/releases/0.20111120.1/builds/armv7hl/packages/armv7hl/libqtdeclarative4-gestures-4.8.0~rc1-1.2.armv7hl.rpm -> dcthang10:25
dcthangnice, thanks.10:26
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dcthanglooks like guesture does not support all signals as document10:45
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Venemo_webchathi guys :)11:40
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* xruxa soldered the loose USB back to place - N900 charging happily. We are back to business!15:39
Stskeepswoo15:40
Stskeepshardware haxx0r xruxa15:40
xruxadoes not boot though ... kernel panic. At least someone did not like my soldering ... or did I destroy something else while doing it?15:41
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mikhashi xruxa, got time to finish up https://gitorious.org/maliit/maliit-plugins/merge_requests/16 perhaps?20:02
alinux_hi all quick  Q. what apps are available on Nemo in particular GPS wise..I am planning to install meego on my N90020:02
mikhasI think it's mostly some smaller style issues and that README should say where graphics came from20:03
mikhasalso, regarding https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14 – how do you guys track HWKB state in Nemo? contextkit? some gconf key?20:06
mikhasxruxa, reason I ask is that I have two nice patches already that are pending on your contribution ;-)20:09
w00tmikhas: how does Harmattan track keyboard state?20:16
w00twe share a lot of middleware20:16
mikhasHarmattan uses contextkit, but Fremantle for example only used gconf key20:17
mikhashah, right …20:17
mikhasit's another optional Maliit dependency of course20:17
w00tso we probably have the same contextkit key20:17
w00tperhaps possibly without a provider behind it, i don't know off the top of my head20:17
mikhashm20:17
mikhastry adding CONFIG+=enable-contextkit to Maliit build options20:18
mikhasand a contextkit build dependency somewhere20:18
mikhaswould like to comment on bug myself, but somehow my mer bug account does not work for nemomobile20:18
w00tlbt_away: ^20:19
w00tdo we have a bug for that already? I can comment on it20:19
mikhasat some point, I really need to try out Nemo on this N950 here20:19
mikhas#1420:19
the-bossmikhas: Error: "14" is not a valid command.20:19
mikhasw00t, I start to like the separation of Mer and Nemo20:20
w00tI think it makes sense20:20
mikhasI guess a minimal core makes it easier for others to adapt it, even if they are not interested in any UX20:21
mikhas=> lower because shared maintenance for Mer20:21
mikhasit makes more sense than adding an useless reference UX which only bloats the stack ;-)20:21
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mikhas(not interested in any ux is misleading, they could simply be interested in other stuff, see plasma active)20:22
w00t*nod*20:22
Stskeepsand a hell lot less politics..20:33
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mikhasStskeeps, you mean, one hell less?20:36
Stskeepsyeah, i guess :P20:36
mikhasOr one circle less?20:36
Stskeepsjust scrap hell and it made sense, too20:36
Stskeeps:P20:36
mikhasso only 8 left then20:36
mikhas:-D20:36
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Stskeepsi am struggling a tiny bit at where the core ends though, like, if a input framework should be in people's UIs, or in core, or in a project shared by many.. et20:39
Stskeepsc20:39
mikhasno idea20:40
mikhasinput framework needs tight integration with UI20:40
mikhasyou got lucky because Qt Component is in a pretty decent state regarding Maliit integration20:40
Stskeeps:nod:20:40
mikhasso in a sense, you want to put input framework just slightly below UX layer20:41
mikhasand in Harmattan, that's called application framework, which then again could be argued to belong into core …20:41
mikhasbut it's probably easier to deal with if it lives in UX layer. we had a similar discussion in GNOME whether input method support needs to be part of the Shell (= core in GNOME)20:43
Stskeepsi'm pondering to just make a golden rule "all the stuff that we all have to do but we really don't want to be doing"20:43
mikhasthe shell developers say yes, I say no ;-)20:43
mikhasbecause it actually removes flexibility20:43
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vakkovthere is currently no music player in nemo, right ?21:16
w00tthere is, but i'm not sure it's got an active maintainer21:17
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mikhasso is nemo already using xruxa's nice-looking keyboard?21:43
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