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| Alfred_ | Hello, guys ! I found a russian language in new release. Can you pls tell me where is translation done? Is it transifex or what? I want to help. | 04:31 |
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| user_ | hello | 06:50 |
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| Ronksu | well done. | 06:54 |
| Sage | morning | 06:58 |
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| Stskeeps | morn sage | 06:58 |
| Stskeeps | ok, first step, downloading the new release.. | 07:01 |
| Sage | :D | 07:01 |
| Sage | yes, I though so too, hover my laptop doesn't recognize the sd cards with the adapter anymore :D | 07:03 |
| Sage | ah, there we go. Fifth time had the power | 07:03 |
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| Sage | hmmp... I'm worried about this part of the n950 patch http://pastie.org/2918007 | 07:20 |
| Sage | in ofono | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | so it would break n900 one? | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:20 |
| Sage | well we have the patch already | 07:20 |
| Stskeeps | that looks odd yes | 07:20 |
| * Sage checks if the n900 is actually with n950 driver atm. | 07:22 | |
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| marquiz_ | yet another channel... | 07:24 |
| Sage | :) | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | oh, new splash | 07:31 |
| w00t | thank lbt for that | 07:32 |
| Stskeeps | do we have the qt drag patch .profile thing in Nemo? | 07:33 |
| w00t | yes | 07:33 |
| w00t | hmm.. well. the environment setter is there | 07:33 |
| w00t | whether the qt patch survived... i'm not completely sure | 07:34 |
| w00t | note that it's only on n900 btw, not n950/n9 | 07:34 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i know | 07:34 |
| Stskeeps | testing on n900 for once | 07:34 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: is tracker running on startup here? | 07:34 |
| Sage | I would say yes | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | ok, it feels like we have some kind of performance regression to me | 07:40 |
| Sage | yes | 07:40 |
| w00t | should I just go ahead and add a sleep(5) to its file indexer? :-D | 07:41 |
| Sage | I was thinking of removing all the file supports from tracker :P | 07:41 |
| Sage | just build without any deps | 07:42 |
| w00t | I guess that's option #2 | 07:42 |
| w00t | just rip that out, along with anything that uses it, until they get replaced | 07:42 |
| marquiz_ | now booting that latest daily, with fingers crossed :D | 07:44 |
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| cxl000 | slonopotamus that is using event input without calibration (not tslib) | 08:10 |
| veskuh | Did anyone get the latest release to work with N950? Doesn't boot on mine.. | 08:17 |
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| Stskeeps | boots for n900 at least | 08:17 |
| veskuh | moslo doesnt find kernel so n950 specific issue I guess | 08:18 |
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| vamonster | i have an issue with the latest update (not release) on N900: it boots, but X server does not start | 08:19 |
| niqt | hi | 08:19 |
| xruxa | vamonster: had the same, things crashing in loop | 08:19 |
| vamonster | xruxa, yes. X tries to start in the loop, whipes out all the battery ) | 08:20 |
| niqt | i have reflashed last release but now after reboot dont' start maemo but start always nemo. | 08:20 |
| vamonster | niqt, i also reflashed the release, and tried to make an update once again. came into the same problem | 08:21 |
| Sage | vamonster: known problem, if that happens usually the easiest way to recover is to flash newer image. | 08:21 |
| w00t | vamonster: that one's a known problem.. for some people, it worked to reboot a bundle of times, for others.. it didn't and they just installed the new release | 08:21 |
| xruxa | vamonster: I managed to 'fix' that somehow after long time of trying, but the device ended up being visibly slow, so I reflashed | 08:22 |
| w00t | niqt: what device? | 08:22 |
| vamonster | thank you all for the suggestiongs, will reflash with the new release when it will be available | 08:22 |
| niqt | n900 | 08:22 |
| w00t | it starts it even with the SD taken out? | 08:22 |
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| * xruxa is considering putting this one (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42376952/nemo-proto1.png) on the device for testing | 08:24 | |
| veskuh | xruxa: could we improve the layout? I hate it that we have backspace and enter next to each other | 08:25 |
| niqt | i'm tryng | 08:25 |
| niqt | but i must recharge it | 08:25 |
| veskuh | I mean the key that erases mistake and key that confirms are next to each other? Not exactly best idea.. | 08:25 |
| xruxa | veskuh: yes, how about I send you my test rig and you experiment with in on QtCreator? Then you can make your own input layout ;) | 08:26 |
| niqt | w00t: without SD start maemo | 08:28 |
| w00t | as far as I know, that's expected | 08:28 |
| w00t | mine has always worked that way | 08:29 |
| w00t | if you read the uboot output when it first starts up, it tells you to press a key if you want to change the boot | 08:29 |
| w00t | (run noloboot, iirc, will get you into maemo) | 08:29 |
| veskuh | xruxa: I can try if it is not too complicated. | 08:29 |
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| niqt | with pevious release when i turned off device after started nemo, at next reboot started maemo | 08:30 |
| xruxa | veskuh: QML only. The layouting seems the most complicated part since lays out the items by repeater - you can (and I'm considering that myself) lay out the keys one by one where you want them | 08:30 |
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| mece | w00t, hi | 08:30 |
| w00t | mece: o/ | 08:31 |
| w00t | veskuh: be careful of resolution independence if you do that | 08:31 |
| w00t | er | 08:31 |
| w00t | xruxa: ^^ | 08:31 |
| xruxa | w00t: they have hardcoded it for N9 screen size anyway :( | 08:31 |
| xruxa | that is why the current VKB in landscape missed bits on sides | 08:31 |
| mece | w00t, regarding the announcements thread on tmo, could you perhaps create a separate discussions thread and point people to that, so they would stop spamming the announcement thread? | 08:31 |
| w00t | mece: hmm, I did think about it, but wasn't sure that was the best idea - you want to go ahead and create it and I'll edit the top post to point to it? | 08:32 |
| niqt | has someoune read my email about qtmobility organizer? | 08:32 |
| veskuh | xruxa: ok, that sounds doable | 08:32 |
| w00t | niqt: read, but not yet had time to look at properly - unless someone else beats me to it (*hopeful expression*) | 08:33 |
| mece | w00t, then. Title suggestions? "Nemo mobile discussions" ? | 08:33 |
| w00t | mece: sounds fine | 08:33 |
| Sage | btw, the vkb seems to wok quite nicely now | 08:33 |
| mece | w00t, http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1128776 | 08:38 |
| w00t | mece: thanks | 08:39 |
| w00t | edited | 08:40 |
| veskuh | niqt: you can search on device if repository has that package. For example like this zypper packages | grep organizer | 08:45 |
| Sage | lol | 08:46 |
| Sage | can't flash any device on my laptop atm | 08:46 |
| Sage | Error claiming USB interface: Device or resource busy | 08:46 |
| Sage | ^ known problem with flasher? | 08:46 |
| mece | Sage, what os? | 08:46 |
| Sage | ah, the cdc_phonet thing | 08:47 |
| Sage | f14 | 08:47 |
| Sage | \o/ N810 boots again | 08:47 |
| * Sage tries N950 now | 08:47 | |
| Sage | ok, still can't flash n950 | 08:49 |
| mece | Sage, do you run nemo on N810? | 08:49 |
| Sage | mece: no, cxl000 has mer adaptation for it though. | 08:50 |
| Sage | runnin nemo on that isn't going to happen as the mtf ux requires gles | 08:50 |
| Sage | and well too heavy anyway probably | 08:51 |
| mece | Sage, mmhmm | 08:51 |
| niqt | <veskuh>:after i'll verify | 08:51 |
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| marquiz_ | Sage: bme is not running in nemo on n950? | 09:28 |
| marquiz_ | Sage: hmm, it seems i have a problem with the mtd partitions | 09:33 |
| marquiz_ | only /dev/mtd0 is available, looking into that when i have time... | 09:33 |
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| Sage | marquiz_: it is not? | 09:53 |
| marquiz_ | yep, fails to start (in my dual-boot) becuse cal area is not available | 09:55 |
| marquiz_ | i have to mangle the dualbooter a bit, to give correct mtdpart opts to kernel, i guess | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 09:55 |
| marquiz_ | i'll do that later today, when back at home ;) | 09:56 |
| marquiz_ | quick fix is of course to edit the cmdline file under boot ;) | 09:56 |
| marquiz_ | lunch-> | 09:56 |
| Sage | does anyone have nemo installed on N950? | 10:01 |
| Sage | I would like to see the phonet part of "udevadm info --export-db" output | 10:02 |
| dm8tbr | Sage: I could try with my N950. which tarball should I use? latest? | 10:06 |
| Sage | dm8tbr: anything goes | 10:08 |
| dm8tbr | k. let me try | 10:09 |
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| dm8tbr | Sage: ummmm, my n950 tells me 'no kernel image found' and reboots into harmattan... (after unpacking latest tarball) | 10:30 |
| veskuh | Sage: ^ I have the same issue so apparently there is something wrong with n950 image | 10:31 |
| * dm8tbr downloads previous | 10:31 | |
| xruxa | Testing new looks of VKB on N900 - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42376952/20110502-082555.png - portrait looks sweet enough for me now. | 10:31 |
| dm8tbr | veskuh: do you have a known working image? | 10:32 |
| veskuh | the previous works | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: any chance we can do it less looking like n9's? :P | 10:33 |
| veskuh | it is just the last one that is broken | 10:33 |
| Sage | http://repository.maemo.org/meego/Nemo/0.20111120.1.CE.2011-11-24.1/images/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950-testing/nemo-handset-armv7hl-n950-testing-0.20111120.1.CE.2011-11-24.1.packages <- kernel listed here at least | 10:33 |
| dm8tbr | k. tnx | 10:33 |
| Sage | hmmp... I wonder what broke that then | 10:33 |
| dm8tbr | Sage: there are files in /boot | 10:33 |
| xruxa | Stskeeps: maybe ... Veskuh said he will relocate some keys around ;) | 10:33 |
| Sage | dm8tbr: can you give list | 10:33 |
| Stskeeps | point | 10:33 |
| dm8tbr | but they have lengthy names, is that ok? | 10:33 |
| dm8tbr | different computer than IRC, sorry | 10:33 |
| dm8tbr | Sage: check inside the tarball you generated ;) | 10:34 |
| * Sage goes to search | 10:34 | |
| Sage | I did a patch to n950 kernel but that was only for %post scripts | 10:35 |
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| Sage | o_0 | 10:36 |
| dm8tbr | links are missing | 10:36 |
| Sage | didn't see that coming | 10:36 |
| dm8tbr | bzImage and cmdline | 10:36 |
| * dm8tbr adds them | 10:36 | |
| Sage | wtf, did the n950 kernel actually use those... | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: moslo dooes | 10:36 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: well I meant the new-kernel-pkg tool that was missing | 10:37 |
| dm8tbr | *zong* and there it boots | 10:37 |
| dm8tbr | yep the missing links were the culprits | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | Sage: ah.. | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | it sets up the links | 10:37 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: well new-kernel-pkg tool isn't there and it failed package updates | 10:38 |
| Sage | so I removed the %post part | 10:38 |
| dm8tbr | well boots, all I see is that it didn't fail and now has a black screen ;) | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 10:38 |
| xruxa | we do not have any haptics/vibra in the system, do we? | 10:38 |
| Sage | there must have been something else that doe that | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: no vibra player for sure | 10:38 |
| Sage | dm8tbr: can you post instructions to the release ML post how to fix that problem. | 10:38 |
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| dm8tbr | yes | 10:39 |
| dm8tbr | ah, I had the usual firstboot power-off, but now it seems to boot fine | 10:41 |
| dm8tbr | wonder what causes that, but don't have a jig | 10:41 |
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| lardman | hmm, just looked at the sources for the Ubuntu pandaboard pvr drivers, messy dir structure in there | 10:53 |
| veskuh | xruxa: I made a pull request. Looks ok to me, but did not test on device. | 10:58 |
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| xruxa | veskuh: can you hit me with a screenshot pls? | 11:08 |
| veskuh | xruxa: sure, just a sec | 11:09 |
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| * xruxa is warming up to the idea of having a few VKB plugins on Nemo soon, we will need one for e.g. Russian real soon now anyway | 11:11 | |
| veskuh | xruxa: http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/45141614/1/Screenshots?h=f440c8 | 11:15 |
| xruxa | veskuh: I get the idea. Some fixes still needed (on my part) for the height of the landscape buttons | 11:18 |
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| marquiz_ | Sage: you still need the udev dump? | 11:58 |
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| marquiz_ | Sage: the udev dump looks basically identical to n900 | 12:03 |
| marquiz_ | Sage: http://pastie.org/2919011 | 12:03 |
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| marquiz_ | Sage: so i guess we need a script under /lib/udev which looks to /etc/boardname or something... | 12:04 |
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| Sage | marquiz_: ifindex is different ;) | 12:13 |
| Sage | I wonder if that is always so in N900 vs N950 and if that could be used to identify things | 12:14 |
| marquiz_ | well, i was pondering the same, but wouldn't count on that | 12:14 |
| marquiz_ | e.g. if n950 kernel is upgraded to 3.0 or smth | 12:14 |
| Sage | hmmp... someone could check that with fremantle? | 12:15 |
| Sage | if it is 3 in there | 12:15 |
| Sage | marquiz_: anyway, script is probably needed, but I'm not so sure about using boardname | 12:15 |
| marquiz_ | Sage: what, then? | 12:16 |
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| marquiz_ | if n950 or n9, modem=n950 | 12:16 |
| marquiz_ | else modem=n900 | 12:16 |
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| marquiz_ | well, there might be other ways, too, but that's one alternative | 12:17 |
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| Sage | marquiz_: maybe we could base the decision by some other udev value? | 12:19 |
| Sage | I'm not entirely familiar how udev works, so not sure if that is even possible | 12:19 |
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| marquiz_ | Sage: what does /sys/devices/platform/omap_ssi.0/ssi0/port0/ssi_protocol/net/phonet0/type contain on n900? | 12:29 |
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| Sazpaimon__ | could I see a screenshot of the builtin nemo irc client? | 12:35 |
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| veskuh | w00t: how about disabling gesture from bottom? It is way too easy to end up in switcher while trying to type with vkb or select item from toolbar.. | 12:42 |
| w00t | veskuh: gesture is too sensitive, i think there's already a bug about that | 12:42 |
| w00t | if not it's on Backlog | 12:42 |
| w00t | i'll try take a look this weekend | 12:42 |
| veskuh | No hurry :) | 12:43 |
| Sazpaimon__ | also, does the client support SASL authentication for freenode? | 12:43 |
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| Sazpaimon__ | I can't connect with tmobile USA to freenode because freenode imposes SASL on this ISP | 12:43 |
| w00t | Sazpaimon__: #irc-chatter (or talk to venemo if you see him around) | 12:44 |
| Sazpaimon__ | w00t, is that the same irc chatter on harmattan? | 12:44 |
| w00t | correct | 12:44 |
| Sazpaimon__ | then no, I dont think it does | 12:44 |
| Sazpaimon__ | in fact, iirc irc chatter imposes its own list of commands it suports | 12:45 |
| w00t | i imagine he'd be open to patches/suggestions | 12:45 |
| Sazpaimon__ | instead of sending unsupported client commands via QUOTE | 12:45 |
| Sazpaimon__ | also color support | 12:45 |
| Sazpaimon__ | I'll but him about it | 12:45 |
| Sazpaimon__ | *bug | 12:45 |
| Sazpaimon__ | i actually was trying to find time to make a qt frontend for xchat, but havent been able to do it just yet | 12:47 |
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| marquiz | Sage, Stskeeps: i fixed the dualbooter cmdline handling so that bme is running in nemo, now | 15:28 |
| marquiz | gotta go, again-> | 15:36 |
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| Sage | marquiz_: nicw | 15:52 |
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| cxl000 | sage I believe new-kernel-pkg also performed the depmod so if you have modules you will need to add something like /sbin/depmod -a -F /boot/System.map-%{version} %{version} | 19:25 |
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