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dotevo | Hello, is mer project alive? | 08:52 |
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chriadam | sure | 08:55 |
chriadam | you can use Mer as the core of your specific embedded-linux based project/product. various packages in Mer core are updated reasonably frequently. | 08:56 |
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dotevo | what is the status? is it possible to create own distribution on top? I can see that new accounts for OBS are closed | 08:57 |
chriadam | dotevo: not altogether closed, you just need to ask lbt | 08:57 |
chriadam | I would say that it is possible, yes. although for some cases it may not be best suited (e.g. Mer isn't on the bleeding edge of many many packages, for examples) | 08:58 |
dotevo | Ohhh... ok. So one more question. Is it possible to run android on MER? | 08:58 |
chriadam | I'm not sure what question you're asking... | 08:58 |
chriadam | do you mean "android applications" on top of a Mer-based linux device? | 08:58 |
chriadam | using sfdroid etc? | 08:59 |
dotevo | I mean to create all needed packages alike frameworks/base etc and create android RPM based distribution | 08:59 |
dotevo | i want to see android like a "normal" distribution with rpm packages | 08:59 |
chriadam | well, Mer is glibc based, not bionic based. Mer can use libhybris to run glibc applications on a bionic BSP | 08:59 |
dotevo | I think it should be possible to use android with libhybris | 09:00 |
chriadam | so I guess the answer is "no" although maybe I'm misunderstanding what you are trying to achieve | 09:00 |
chriadam | "Mer" is just the name for a collection of packages which are maintained by the project. It includes "normal" Linux kernel (not the Android AOSP fork), and a bunch of "normal" Linux libraries / applications / etc | 09:01 |
dotevo | I do not like current android build system. I would prefer rpm based where every package is built separetly | 09:01 |
dotevo | so how do you run vendor services? | 09:02 |
dotevo | without binder | 09:02 |
chriadam | dotevo: oh right, you mean: write your own packaging scripts for the various stuff in the Android tree? and use OBS to build an image? yes you could do that | 09:02 |
chriadam | (I assume. I don't know too much about what's required from hardware adaptation side, or image creation for fastboot etc) | 09:03 |
dotevo | :-) great. I've started my own OBS where I've tried to build some packages but maybe MER is better place :-) I've used mainline OBS without sb2 | 09:04 |
chriadam | but the OS image you create wouldn't be "Mer" it would be ... your own thing built with OBS, I guess. | 09:04 |
chriadam | but I guess you can discuss with lbt to see if that would be something interesting for the Mer project | 09:05 |
dotevo | but some packages in mer can be optional, right? I wish to see something like "zypper install android-framework" and have support of the apk without containers with android | 09:06 |
dotevo | Maybe it is not interesting for Mer, and I do not have enough time to be sure that I can finish it. But maybe you can share some instruction how to start my own OBS up with your packages as dependency | 09:08 |
dotevo | I do not want to build everything by own if there are some packages ready to use and maintained | 09:09 |
chriadam | dotevo: I am not sure I am following. most of the android frameworks stuff simply will not work on top of a normal glibc Linux distribution. so if you want to build a working (Android) image, I believe that you will need to build everything yourself.. | 09:11 |
chriadam | so you can't take a normal Mer-based embedded linux device and "install" Android as an rpm package | 09:11 |
chriadam | instead, you would need to set up your OBS to build everything, create an image which can be flashed with mic or fastboot or whatever, and package/build a version of rpm+libzypp+zypper to work on your frankenstein Android, and then use that to install "specific packages" from your Android OBS build onto your device | 09:12 |
chriadam | (well, I'm no expert, but that's my assumption. experts, feel free to correct me of course!) | 09:12 |
chriadam | anyway, it's late and I have to head home. good luck, have a nice christmas :-) | 09:14 |
dotevo | I think it should be possible to have more than one "libc" version in system if you are using different LD_PATH | 09:14 |
dotevo | Thank you, you too :-) | 09:14 |
spiiroin | review appreciated: https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/mce/merge_requests/107 | 12:25 |
spiiroin | ^ forced-psm setting cleared on charger connect | 12:25 |
Thaodan | lbt: can you look into the issue on tdlibjson on buildservice mer/arm7el? | 22:00 |
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