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| Tofe | Hi | 09:26 |
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| Tofe | I'm here as a LuneOS dev, and I'd have a question about connman; currently we reuse ofono, voicecall, etc from Mer, but not connman yet. | 09:28 |
| Tofe | My question is, why do you need to maintain a separate fork of connman, with so many patches? Is connman not well adapted to you use-cases? or doesn't evolve quickly enough? | 09:29 |
| Tofe | We wonder about switching to Mer's connman for LuneOS, but before that it'd be good to know what the pro/cons are :) | 09:30 |
| Tofe | monich: ^ | 09:31 |
| monich | Tofe: for one thing, it would pull a few more dependencies | 09:32 |
| Tofe | ok, yes, I'll need to look at that aspect | 09:33 |
| monich | ofono plugin and wifi plugins are completely rewritten | 09:33 |
| Tofe | to make it more flexible? or was it too buggy? :) | 09:34 |
| monich | to stop those from crashing mostly | 09:36 |
| Tofe | quite a good reason | 09:37 |
| monich | although things are being fixed in upstream too, we are still quite behind | 09:37 |
| Tofe | you have bluez5 support in your current version? | 09:37 |
| monich | hmm... I don't think our connman does much with bluetooth | 09:40 |
| monich | other than turning off and on via rfkill | 09:40 |
| monich | no pan or anything fancy | 09:41 |
| Tofe | ah ok, bluez support in sailfishos is used directly through DBus, not through connman | 09:41 |
| monich | ofono suffered more from this bluez4 -> bluez5 transition, I think | 09:42 |
| Tofe | we're going to switch to bluez5 soon too, it'll be lots of fun | 09:43 |
| monich | Tofe: ah, I recalled one sfos specific thing in our connman that may break the ui | 09:45 |
| monich | GetServices returns all configured services even those that are not available | 09:45 |
| monich | (i.e. out of range wifis) | 09:45 |
| Tofe | ah ok; I understand the choice, but yes it changes the ui | 09:46 |
| monich | there's additional property "available" that tells the ui which services are connectable and which are not | 09:46 |
| Tofe | ok I see; a bit more flexible then | 09:47 |
| monich | this way out of range wifi network can be edited or removed, like a normal service | 09:47 |
| Tofe | well, ok thanks for all these informations, I'll have a look at the dependencies, and then maybe we'll give it a try - that'll mainly depend on how we approach bluez5 I think. | 09:48 |
| monich | yeah, ping me if you have issues or questions | 09:49 |
| Tofe | ok :) | 09:49 |
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| monich | Tofe: one more thing that may not be obvious - quite a few changes have to do with access control, i.e. checking the identity of the calling process | 09:55 |
| monich | our system ui is running with 'privileged' effective group id | 09:55 |
| monich | we don't want a random non-privileged process (such as a jolla store app) to be able to change or sometimes even query things like wifi passwords | 09:55 |
| monich | dbus ignores effective group id of the caller, so we can't use dbus policies for that | 09:56 |
| monich | and we check the caller's identify on the connman side | 09:56 |
| monich | it should be possible to turn this behavior off if you don't need it | 09:56 |
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| Tofe | monich: that's a good remark, we'll need to think of a strategy about that too... | 10:50 |
| Tofe | Though the apps are html (most of them), so the issue isn't that bad | 10:50 |
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| monich | Tofe: or you could use different user accounts for different things (possibly even different apps) | 10:52 |
| Tofe | eventually yes, like Android | 10:59 |
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| lbt | PSA Mer infra will need some maintenance tonight after 6pm UK time | 14:24 |
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| Thaodan | some admin from mer buildservice here? | 16:29 |
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| lbt | Thaodan: yes | 17:15 |
| lbt | Thaodan: but I'm going offline now as I need to shutdown some servers. I'll be around a bit later and tomorrow | 17:16 |
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