Wednesday, 2017-07-26

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M-schmittlauchmarmistrz: I'm only talking about the GCC 4 -> 5 transition as they're changing default ABI there.08:34
marmistrzM-schmittlauch, ok, that's a different story.08:34
M-schmittlauchAs a gentoo user I needed to recompile my qhole system, that took 2 days -_-08:34
marmistrzBut even Android sometimes drops the old apps, which are not updated to match new API08:35
marmistrz(or does it... marmistrz is not sure)08:35
M-schmittlauchmarmistrz: I'm not that familiar with the C++ ABI thing, but I guess the hardest switch is the one away from gcc 408:35
marmistrzAnd what if sfos provided libgcc.so and libstdc++ from 4.x for compatibility which would be preloaded for old apps?08:36
tbrrebuilding mer core on a moderatly strong OBS takes 4-8h IIRC08:37
marmistrzAnother idea would be: let's update and see what breaks (of course not on the main release)08:37
tbryou should check out the discussion where we talked about exactly that08:37
marmistrztbr, when was it?08:37
tbra few months ago, during a meeting08:38
Mister_Magisterwe will have to change abi now or later anyway08:39
marmistrzWhen does gcc4 has its EOL?08:40
marmistrza quick search yields nothing08:40
tbralso for a (private) project I've been running dual userspace, mer core with the old gcc and gcc 5.x for certain apps that wouldn't build on it08:41
abransoni think they stopped releasing gcc4.x updates a while ago. 5 is still going though.08:41
tbr4.9.4 was released 2016-08-2208:42
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marmistrz> This release series is no longer maintained.08:43
marmistrzThat's for the gcc 4.9 release series08:44
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LarstiQmarmistrz: note that it's Linaro gcc, so that might have different support timeframes14:56
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marmistrzWell, Linaro GCC is EOL too!18:07
marmistrz<maximk> marmistrz: Linaro GCC 4.9 is now EOL.18:07
marmistrz<maximk> marmistrz: normally, our release are supported for 2 years18:07
marmistrz<maximk> marmistrz: for gcc 4.9 we issued last update this year due to a critical issue18:07
LarstiQright18:07
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