Thursday, 2017-04-27

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dr_gogeta86will it build ?14:02
dr_gogeta86https://blog.online.net/2017/04/27/scaleway-disruptive-armv8-cloud-servers/14:02
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ilovekirunaIt seems like I cannot acces my obs account. I get Error 403: Forbidden. However, I can log on in bugzilla. Are there currently any known problems?14:47
ilovekirunaThe only change I made is that right now I am under Windows. Before under Linux I could logon.14:49
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Abi_Hi folks, I am new to Mer, where can I find some high level design or architecture document?19:06
Abi_I see a lot of people signed in but no one seems to answer?19:07
LarstiQyou really didn't give it much time19:08
LarstiQAbi_: too tired to dig anything else up, try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtcEQNOKbg819:09
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Abi_Hi folks, I got kicked out I think19:24
Abi_I asked a question about architecture level document about Mer19:24
Abi_It is a middle ware it seems but what kind of services I can expect from this middleware19:24
Abi_For example If I want to use Telepathy, I know it is a communication service, but what kind of services I get if I bring in Mer?19:26
coderusAbi_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtcEQNOKbg819:29
coderusyou wont get any communication service until you write some connection manager for it :)19:29
Abi_True Coderus I was using that as an example I know how Telepathy works and needs a connection manager19:30
Abi_I was trying to get an architecture level definition of what Linux Mer distribution19:31
Abi_say If I integerate Linux Mer, I get ....19:32
Abi_Hope it makes sense what I am looking for?19:32
Abi_I tried to click on the Compoenents list which is available at the Wiki trying to get an idea that way, but the link is dead19:33
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Abi_coderus you there?19:35
Abi_You were kind of enough to respond to me, can you tell me if my question makes sense?19:36
coderushttps://git.merproject.org/mer-core/19:37
coderusi'm not an architecture expert :)19:37
Abi_I wasn't implying that, I just thought if you have experience working with it, you know a few good documents to read and get a high level view, rather than reverse engineer a lot of code to see if has what you need?19:40
coderusAbi_: no :)19:41
coderusyou can try to look at https://sailfishos.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Sailfish_Architecture.jpg19:41
coderusthis is what sailfishos using19:41
Abi_So where is Mer in that diagram?19:43
Abi_I know oFono is part of Mer19:43
Abi_So is ConnMan19:43
Abi_and many other components, I am trying to see if Mer is nothing but a repository that I can take certain components from or the components have dependency and I can't be selective19:44
r0kk3rz'sailfishos core' is really 'mer core'19:45
Abi_I went to the following page and spent some time19:46
Abi_https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Main_Page19:46
Abi_to get an overview of what Mer offers, I haven't been successful yet19:47
Abi_maybe I am  looking at it wrong19:48
Abi_The following is what is listed on Wikipedia about Mer:19:49
Abi_Mer is a free and open-source software distribution, targeted at hardware vendors to serve as a middleware for Linux kernel-based mobile-oriented operating systems.[1] It is a fork of MeeGo19:50
Abi_it lists it as middle-ware19:51
r0kk3rzyeah, which is accurate enough. you get a toolkit + packages to bring up a Qt UI on a mobile device19:53
r0kk3rzand interfaces to the things you might want, like bluetooth, modems, wlan .etc19:54
Abi_so r0kk3rz is it accurate enough to say Mer is a layer that sits on top of say oFono or ConnMan and exposes a higher level functionality?20:00
Abi_so one programs to that API not direct D-Bus that oFono or ConnMan expose?20:00
Abi_I am not interested at UI level20:01
Abi_so trying to find out what is the point of bringing in Mer vs inidividual packages that Mer has like oFono ConnMan, etc.20:03
Abi_r0K can you reply to my last posting?20:05
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Abi_Coderus are you here?20:08
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Abi_This is a Mer channel after all, can anyone please comment on my last few posting?20:18
r0kk3rzit depends on what you want to achieve i guess20:36
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Abi_r0k I messaged your privately20:43
Abi_can we talk there?20:43
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lbtAbi_: around?21:38
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