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| kskarthik | lbt: requesting you account on mer wiki | 09:34 |
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| lbt | kskarthik rotten timing :) | 09:55 |
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| tbr | ok, so I'd like to discuss some doubts (sic!) I have about Qt packaging, specifically 5.8 in a mer:core context | 10:13 |
| tbr | it looks like libquicklayoutsplugin has moved into declarative and I accordingly packaged it as qt5-qtdeclarative-import-layouts. On the other hand so far that has been living in qt5-qtquickcontrols-layouts | 10:14 |
| tbr | and to make things fun, now there are also qt5-qtquickcontrols2 | 10:14 |
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| larstiq | tbr: which part is the doubt? | 10:18 |
| tbr | larstiq: I can either keep the thing in qt5-qtdeclarative-import-layouts or make the qtdeclarative obs package build it as qt5-qtquickcontrols-layouts instead | 10:19 |
| tbr | the latter would be more backwards compatible | 10:20 |
| tbr | could also be achieved by a Provides though | 10:20 |
| larstiq | tbr: do you have specific dependencies in mind that would break? | 10:20 |
| larstiq | most are expressed by pkgconfig I'd think | 10:20 |
| larstiq | i.e. don't depend on package name | 10:21 |
| tbr | TBH I'm not that familiar with things that depend on it | 10:21 |
| larstiq | np, I'm not familiar with the qt packaging at all ;) | 10:21 |
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| tbr | most of the qt5.8 packaging was just minor adjustments and mechanical churn. This is one of the parts that change. | 10:22 |
| tbr | would it make sense to take this topic to the mer mailing list? | 10:22 |
| tbr | I can probably push my 5.8 packaging to git.mo and build.mo over the weekend, so that everyone can have a look. | 10:23 |
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| larstiq | tbr: yeah, and/or submit a PR for discussion | 10:25 |
| tbr | this is like a dozen git repositories, hard to fold that into one gitlab PR AFAIU | 10:29 |
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| lbt | w00t: ^^^ re Qt packaging :) | 11:50 |
| w00t | i think moving the import probably makes sense. there shouldn't be any binary-time dependencies on it (as it offers no binary interface - it's a runtime plugin), so any dependencies to watch out for would be of the runtime kind | 11:52 |
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| lbt | tbr: ^^ | 11:56 |
| lbt | tbr meet w00t. w00t meet tbr. | 11:56 |
| * lbt goes for coffee :D | 11:56 | |
| tbr | lbt: we've been already discussing "funny aargh64" failures | 11:57 |
| lbt | (actually having a nice sit down at the computer after electrocuting myself in a UPS) | 11:57 |
| tbr | eep | 11:57 |
| lbt | nah | 11:57 |
| lbt | more zzzzzp | 11:57 |
| w00t | that must have been a shocking experience | 11:58 |
| lbt | :P | 11:58 |
| w00t | or perhaps it was en-lightening | 11:58 |
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| * lbt bans w00t | 11:58 | |
| tbr | some people would pay money for such experiences | 11:58 |
| lbt | I unplugged one of the cooling fans - and I tested it later at 12v ... I have no idea how I got the shock! | 11:58 |
| lbt | it should be safe now - I unplugged it from the mains... | 11:59 |
| tbr | mh, maybe some part of it is floating in reference to mains? | 11:59 |
| tbr | which is rather dangerous and should be avoided in designs | 11:59 |
| * lbt grabs his wire cutters and marigolds and goes back in... | 12:00 | |
| lbt | (I'm feeling energetic now w00t!) | 12:00 |
| w00t | good luck ;) | 12:01 |
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| lbt | OK Insanely noisy UPS cooling fan now has a variable resistor inline and is turned down to whisper :) | 12:09 |
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| tbr | \o/ | 12:16 |
| tbr | I had to order a PWM module from china for 2$ to silence the server chassis fan (which now contains other control electronics) | 12:16 |
| tbr | without PWM it goes up to 11 | 12:16 |
| tbr | now it's barely audible if you put your head next to it | 12:17 |
| * tbr adds a Qt5OpenGL dependency to the qtwebkit 5.8 build | 12:19 | |
| lbt | I think PWM maybe a better option medium term | 12:20 |
| tbr | the 4-pin fans need it | 12:22 |
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| lbt | these are just 3 pin - 2 + sensor I think | 12:22 |
| tbr | ooh, qtwebkit built by just adding that one dependency | 12:22 |
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| lbt | I think pwm would let them run more slowly more reliably and not heat up the resistor | 12:23 |
| tbr | yeah, quite likely | 12:23 |
| tbr | I think I fried a fan once by running it off 5V for 2 years | 12:23 |
| tbr | w00t: so, any opinions on my "doubt" above? | 12:24 |
| w00t | doubt .. uhhm .. | 12:25 |
| w00t | where? | 12:25 |
| tbr | w00t: 10:13z about qtquickcontrols and package naming | 12:26 |
| w00t | tbr: I did say that I thought renaming made sense (around the same time as talking about lbt electrocuting himself) | 12:27 |
| tbr | oh, must have missed it, sorry | 12:28 |
| tbr | w00t: so make qtdeclarative build spit out the qt5-qtquickcontrols-layouts package? | 12:29 |
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| w00t | yes .. well, or rename it as a part of making it spit out that package, obsoleting/replacing the old one | 12:30 |
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| tbr | *nod* | 12:30 |
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| tbr | hmm, qmf will need some love to build against 5.8 | 12:33 |
| tbr | [ 75s] qmailmessage.cpp:90:90: error: ambiguous overload for 'operator>=' (operand types are 'const QChar' and 'int') | 12:33 |
| tbr | [ 75s] inline bool asciiRepresentable(const CharType& value) { return ((value <= 127) && (value >= 0)); } | 12:33 |
| tbr | [ 75s] ^ | 12:33 |
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| IgorSK | Hi. Could someone tell me what does 'ssu' stand for? | 13:55 |
| larstiq | IgorSK: seamless software update | 13:55 |
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| IgorSK | larstiq, thanx | 13:57 |
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