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kskarthiklbt: requesting you account on mer wiki09:34
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lbtkskarthik rotten timing :)09:55
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tbrok, so I'd like to discuss some doubts (sic!) I have about Qt packaging, specifically 5.8 in a mer:core context10:13
tbrit looks like libquicklayoutsplugin has moved into declarative and I accordingly packaged it as qt5-qtdeclarative-import-layouts. On the other hand so far that has been living in qt5-qtquickcontrols-layouts10:14
tbrand to make things fun, now there are also qt5-qtquickcontrols210:14
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larstiqtbr: which part is the doubt?10:18
tbrlarstiq: I can either keep the thing in qt5-qtdeclarative-import-layouts or make the qtdeclarative obs package build it as qt5-qtquickcontrols-layouts instead10:19
tbrthe latter would be more backwards compatible10:20
tbrcould also be achieved by a Provides though10:20
larstiqtbr: do you have specific dependencies in mind that would break?10:20
larstiqmost are expressed by pkgconfig I'd think10:20
larstiqi.e. don't depend on package name10:21
tbrTBH I'm not that familiar with things that depend on it10:21
larstiqnp, I'm not familiar with the qt packaging at all ;)10:21
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tbrmost of the qt5.8 packaging was just minor adjustments and mechanical churn. This is one of the parts that change.10:22
tbrwould it make sense to take this topic to the mer mailing list?10:22
tbrI can probably push my 5.8 packaging to git.mo and build.mo over the weekend, so that everyone can have a look.10:23
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larstiqtbr: yeah, and/or submit a PR for discussion10:25
tbrthis is like a dozen git repositories, hard to fold that into one gitlab PR AFAIU10:29
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lbtw00t: ^^^ re Qt packaging :)11:50
w00ti think moving the import probably makes sense. there shouldn't be any binary-time dependencies on it (as it offers no binary interface - it's a runtime plugin), so any dependencies to watch out for would be of the runtime kind11:52
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lbttbr: ^^11:56
lbttbr meet w00t. w00t meet tbr.11:56
* lbt goes for coffee :D11:56
tbrlbt: we've been already discussing "funny aargh64" failures11:57
lbt(actually having a nice sit down at the computer after electrocuting myself in a UPS)11:57
tbreep11:57
lbtnah11:57
lbtmore zzzzzp11:57
w00tthat must have been a shocking experience11:58
lbt:P11:58
w00tor perhaps it was en-lightening11:58
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* lbt bans w00t11:58
tbrsome people would pay money for such experiences11:58
lbtI unplugged one of the cooling fans - and I tested it later at 12v ... I have no idea how I got the shock!11:58
lbtit should be safe now - I unplugged it from the mains...11:59
tbrmh, maybe some part of it is floating in reference to mains?11:59
tbrwhich is rather dangerous and should be avoided in designs11:59
* lbt grabs his wire cutters and marigolds and goes back in...12:00
lbt(I'm feeling energetic now w00t!)12:00
w00tgood luck ;)12:01
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lbtOK Insanely noisy UPS cooling fan now has a variable resistor inline and is turned down to whisper :)12:09
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tbr\o/12:16
tbrI had to order a PWM module from china for 2$ to silence the server chassis fan (which now contains other control electronics)12:16
tbrwithout PWM it goes up to 1112:16
tbrnow it's barely audible if you put your head next to it12:17
* tbr adds a Qt5OpenGL dependency to the qtwebkit 5.8 build12:19
lbtI think PWM maybe a better option medium term12:20
tbrthe 4-pin fans need it12:22
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lbtthese are just 3 pin - 2 + sensor I think12:22
tbrooh, qtwebkit built by just adding that one dependency12:22
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lbtI think pwm would let them run more slowly more reliably and not heat up the resistor12:23
tbryeah, quite likely12:23
tbrI think I fried a fan once by running it off 5V for 2 years12:23
tbrw00t: so, any opinions on my "doubt" above?12:24
w00tdoubt .. uhhm ..12:25
w00twhere?12:25
tbrw00t: 10:13z about qtquickcontrols and package naming12:26
w00ttbr: I did say that I thought renaming made sense (around the same time as talking about lbt electrocuting himself)12:27
tbroh, must have missed it, sorry12:28
tbrw00t: so make qtdeclarative build spit out the qt5-qtquickcontrols-layouts package?12:29
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w00tyes .. well, or rename it as a part of making it spit out that package, obsoleting/replacing the old one12:30
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tbr*nod*12:30
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tbrhmm, qmf will need some love to build against 5.812:33
tbr[   75s] qmailmessage.cpp:90:90: error: ambiguous overload for 'operator>=' (operand types are 'const QChar' and 'int')12:33
tbr[   75s]  inline bool asciiRepresentable(const CharType& value) { return ((value <= 127) && (value >= 0)); }12:33
tbr[   75s]                                                                                           ^12:33
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IgorSKHi. Could someone tell me what does 'ssu' stand for?13:55
larstiqIgorSK: seamless software update13:55
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IgorSKlarstiq, thanx13:57
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r0kk3rzis that an oxymoron? :p22:22
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