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| tbr | hmm, I guess the best workflow description for tar_git is https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Development#With_tar_git_service ? | 11:54 |
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| * tbr needs to get into this thing and is still a bit confused, but probably best to just take something and try it out | 11:55 | |
| larstiq | tbr: not sure if it is the best, but looks more or less correct | 11:56 |
| larstiq | tbr: please raise any confusion | 11:56 |
| tbr | tnx | 11:56 |
| tbr | will do | 11:56 |
| tbr | I might even improve the wiki as a result :) | 11:57 |
| larstiq | the Nemo/ is a bit outdated, but otherwise, I guess here | 11:57 |
| tbr | yeah | 11:57 |
| larstiq | although personally I'd prefer documentation right next to tar_git itself | 11:57 |
| tbr | ah, wanted to check that | 11:58 |
| larstiq | https://github.com/MeeGoIntegration/boss-launcher-webhook/blob/master/src/service/tar_git | 11:58 |
| tbr | yes, that I have since I had to make it work on my obs :) | 11:58 |
| larstiq | upstream is using https://github.com/openSUSE/obs-service-tar_scm | 11:58 |
| larstiq | tbr: :) | 11:58 |
| tbr | speaking of upstream | 11:59 |
| larstiq | tar_scm didn't exist when tar_git was made afaik | 11:59 |
| tbr | lbt_: did you have any chance to look into shaping mer patches for upstream submission? | 11:59 |
| larstiq | in theory converging sounds nice, but don't know how well the usecases are covered and lot of work | 11:59 |
| tbr | (by that I mean the whole OBS, not the service in particular) | 12:00 |
| larstiq | tbr: also ask ol | 12:00 |
| tbr | I guess I could try to distill that wiki page into some markup documentation that we could merge into the devel branch of webhook? | 12:03 |
| tbr | but first I'll have to go through the motions and understand things better | 12:03 |
| larstiq | tbr: aye | 12:08 |
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| dstm | Hi, I can't find any documentation about mer, about it's architecture/abstractions. Is it available somewhere? Do I have to look for MeeGo docs? | 13:53 |
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| larstiq | dstm: like? | 13:56 |
| dstm | A high level overview about its components and their interaction | 13:58 |
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| tbr | dstm: check the mer wiki, there might be something | 14:19 |
| tbr | dstm: essentially it's a pretty standard distro core with glibc and all that and qt and wayland on the graphical side | 14:19 |
| tbr | dstm: it comes without "hardware adaptation" so no kernel, no binary gpu libraries etc | 14:20 |
| tbr | dstm: it also does not come with any gui, gui apps, etc. although for those there is a related project: Nemomobile | 14:20 |
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| dstm | sry, I was on phone | 14:30 |
| dstm | thx, tbr | 14:30 |
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| ol | larstiq, tbr: Mer patches to OBS are minimal (and some of them are not strictly necessary is you change project config), but the most significant problem are patches to build: they are numerous and highly intrusive. | 19:18 |
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| tbr | ol: yeah, because SB2, isn't it? | 19:31 |
| ol | tbr: Yes. To be precise, it's because sb2 patches introduce difference between $BUILD_ROOT and $BUILD_TARGET, and there are *lots* of places in build source code where $BUILD_ROOT has to be replaced with $BUILD_TARGET. | 19:33 |
| tbr | *nod* | 19:36 |
| tbr | (I didn't look at the sources of build, just OBS so far and didn't examine patches at all) | 19:36 |
| tbr | ol: I guess such a cleanup patch should make sense upstream though, even if *they* are not directly impacted by it? | 19:38 |
| ol | tbr: May be. Needs to be discussed with OBS / build developers. | 19:39 |
| tbr | they hang out in #opensuse-buildservice and are responsive :) | 19:42 |
| tbr | personally, as an open source minded person, I'd love to see as much as possible of all of this upstream | 19:43 |
| tbr | if you need "other downstream users" to weigh in, let me know | 19:43 |
| ol | tbr: This is still a significant amount of work. I'll consider doing it when I'm in a good mood and not busy with other things, but can't promise. | 20:15 |
| ol | Of course, there's always a way to expedite this work: pay me for it. :-) | 20:16 |
| ol | Or provide me with basic income to make me not worry about other, more boring stuff, but we'll have to wait for some time for that, I'm afraid. | 20:17 |
| tbr | ol: oh, no pressure fo' sure | 20:22 |
| tbr | ol: been there, had that problem :-C | 20:22 |
| tbr | ol: right now I'm tryint to channel some of my paid time into documenting tar_git a bit better. small steps and all that | 20:24 |
| ol | tbr: Can you convince an entity that pays you to pay for the task we discussed above as well? | 20:25 |
| tbr | ol: I wish. I'm already insanely happy that they pay *me* :-/ | 20:26 |
| tbr | (I might have put myself out of a job today by flipping some tables on some concepts) | 20:27 |
| ol | tbr: OK, no problem. I'm glad that there's somebody that pays you anyway. | 20:29 |
| tbr | boy, am *I* glad about that :D | 20:29 |
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| ol | BTW, there should be other commercial entities interested in this task to be done. Anybody from Jolla here? Need a person to help you to reduce your technical debt and transition you to newer version of OBS? | 20:31 |
| tbr | :) | 20:31 |
| tbr | go go go! :) | 20:31 |
| ol | My time and expertise for sale to highest bidder! | 20:31 |
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