Friday, 2017-01-27

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tbrhmm, I guess the best workflow description for tar_git is https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Development#With_tar_git_service ?11:54
* tbr needs to get into this thing and is still a bit confused, but probably best to just take something and try it out11:55
larstiqtbr: not sure if it is the best, but looks more or less correct11:56
larstiqtbr: please raise any confusion11:56
tbrtnx11:56
tbrwill do11:56
tbrI might even improve the wiki as a result :)11:57
larstiqthe Nemo/ is a bit outdated, but otherwise, I guess here11:57
tbryeah11:57
larstiqalthough personally I'd prefer documentation right next to tar_git itself11:57
tbrah, wanted to check that11:58
larstiqhttps://github.com/MeeGoIntegration/boss-launcher-webhook/blob/master/src/service/tar_git11:58
tbryes, that I have since I had to make it work on my obs :)11:58
larstiqupstream is using https://github.com/openSUSE/obs-service-tar_scm11:58
larstiqtbr: :)11:58
tbrspeaking of upstream11:59
larstiqtar_scm didn't exist when tar_git was made afaik11:59
tbrlbt_: did you have any chance to look into shaping mer patches for upstream submission?11:59
larstiqin theory converging sounds nice, but don't know how well the usecases are covered and lot of work11:59
tbr(by that I mean the whole OBS, not the service in particular)12:00
larstiqtbr: also ask ol12:00
tbrI guess I could try to distill that wiki page into some markup documentation that we could merge into the devel branch of webhook?12:03
tbrbut first I'll have to go through the motions and understand things better12:03
larstiqtbr: aye12:08
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dstmHi, I can't find any documentation about mer, about it's architecture/abstractions. Is it available somewhere? Do I have to look for MeeGo docs?13:53
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larstiqdstm: like?13:56
dstmA high level overview about its components and their interaction13:58
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tbrdstm: check the mer wiki, there might be something14:19
tbrdstm: essentially it's a pretty standard distro core with glibc and all that and qt and wayland on the graphical side14:19
tbrdstm: it comes without "hardware adaptation" so no kernel, no binary gpu libraries etc14:20
tbrdstm: it also does not come with any gui, gui apps, etc. although for those there is a related project: Nemomobile14:20
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dstmsry, I was on phone14:30
dstmthx, tbr14:30
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ollarstiq, tbr: Mer patches to OBS are minimal (and some of them are not strictly necessary is you change project config), but the most significant problem are patches to build: they are numerous and highly intrusive.19:18
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tbrol: yeah, because SB2, isn't it?19:31
oltbr: Yes. To be precise, it's because sb2 patches introduce difference between $BUILD_ROOT and $BUILD_TARGET, and there are *lots* of places in build source code where $BUILD_ROOT has to be replaced with $BUILD_TARGET.19:33
tbr*nod*19:36
tbr(I didn't look at the sources of build, just OBS so far and didn't examine patches at all)19:36
tbrol: I guess such a cleanup patch should make sense upstream though, even if *they* are not directly impacted by it?19:38
oltbr: May be. Needs to be discussed with OBS / build developers.19:39
tbrthey hang out in #opensuse-buildservice and are responsive :)19:42
tbrpersonally, as an open source minded person, I'd love to see as much as possible of all of this upstream19:43
tbrif you need "other downstream users" to weigh in, let me know19:43
oltbr: This is still a significant amount of work. I'll consider doing it when I'm in a good mood and not busy with other things, but can't promise.20:15
olOf course, there's always a way to expedite this work: pay me for it. :-)20:16
olOr provide me with basic income to make me not worry about other, more boring stuff, but we'll have to wait for some time for that, I'm afraid.20:17
tbrol: oh, no pressure fo' sure20:22
tbrol: been there, had that problem :-C20:22
tbrol: right now I'm tryint to channel some of my paid time into documenting tar_git a bit better. small steps and all that20:24
oltbr: Can you convince an entity that pays you to pay for the task we discussed above as well?20:25
tbrol: I wish. I'm already insanely happy that they pay *me* :-/20:26
tbr(I might have put myself out of a job today by flipping some tables on some concepts)20:27
oltbr: OK, no problem. I'm glad that there's somebody that pays you anyway.20:29
tbrboy, am *I* glad about that :D20:29
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olBTW, there should be other commercial entities interested in this task to be done. Anybody from Jolla here? Need a person to help you to reduce your technical debt and transition you to newer version of OBS?20:31
tbr:)20:31
tbrgo go go! :)20:31
olMy time and expertise for sale to highest bidder!20:31
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