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| dr_gogeta86 | chriadam, still here ? | 08:43 |
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| chriadam | dr_gogeta86: yes | 08:46 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | the actual infra is ephemeral | 08:53 |
| dr_gogeta86 | if you bring it down ... everything is lost | 08:54 |
| dr_gogeta86 | for this reason i've left sqlite into ownclouds | 08:54 |
| chriadam | dr_gogeta86: that's a "good thing" right? does it mean we can just reset it back to clean state by doing some "docker reset" thing? | 08:55 |
| chriadam | or am I misunderstanding? | 08:56 |
| dr_gogeta86 | docker-compose down && docker-compose up | 08:56 |
| dr_gogeta86 | and you cleaned the stage | 08:56 |
| dr_gogeta86 | for this reason i've invite you to download and get your hands dirty | 08:57 |
| chriadam | yes, I will hopefully have time next week | 08:57 |
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| chriadam | dr_gogeta86: I guess that that requires ssh access to the server where it's running though | 08:58 |
| dr_gogeta86 | ofcourse | 08:59 |
| chriadam | and I want to avoid the need for that. hrm. I guess one option would be to expose that capability via a web-API somehow | 08:59 |
| dr_gogeta86 | need a 3rd party infra | 08:59 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i can investigate on that | 08:59 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i dunno if any CI is inplace | 08:59 |
| chriadam | I don't know the details of the CI, lbt would know | 09:00 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | I hope to answare the mail as soon as i can | 09:03 |
| lbt | I think we should write a web app in django to manage this stuff | 09:14 |
| lbt | django is pretty trivial to use in this respect and we use it in many other services | 09:14 |
| chriadam | in the meantime, I will investigate a curl script ot do it manually via propfind+delete | 09:19 |
| chriadam | but yeah, going forward that would be useful | 09:19 |
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| lbt | so chriadam... about the binary GPS data at build time | 09:26 |
| chriadam | yep! | 09:26 |
| lbt | that's forbidden at the moment as the build happens in a non-networked isolated VM | 09:26 |
| lbt | that won't change | 09:27 |
| lbt | so we need an injection mechanism | 09:27 |
| lbt | one simple solution would be to put the blobs into a different package | 09:27 |
| lbt | a pure data package | 09:27 |
| lbt | and the build-depend on it | 09:27 |
| lbt | and then re-export the relevant blob in the rpms from the package | 09:27 |
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| lbt | that pure-data package may not be git managed | 09:28 |
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| lbt | or... | 09:28 |
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| lbt | we could run a dedicated _service which pulls the blobs into the rpm directory just prior to build | 09:29 |
| lbt | that's a bit more magical though | 09:29 |
| lbt | so that's the kind of approach I'd start whiteboarding with | 09:29 |
| chriadam | to add to the complexity: | 09:29 |
| lbt | yep - get it all out there! | 09:29 |
| chriadam | mozilla releases giant .csv files daily with updates | 09:30 |
| chriadam | I wrote a tool to preprocess that file and generate a compressed-binary-format data file, for a given bounding box | 09:30 |
| chriadam | so the data files I mentioned, are those outputs, which currently we generate manually using the tool, and check in | 09:30 |
| chriadam | in the future, would be better to be able to automate the whole thing as part of the build step | 09:30 |
| chriadam | i.e., take the .csv file, run my tool over it with the required bounding boxes (as defined in the .spec for each country's package's build instruction) | 09:31 |
| lbt | so the <service> concept is simple and powerful ... "run this service to get data to put in the build root" | 09:31 |
| lbt | usually that gets src | 09:31 |
| chriadam | then package the resulting compressed binary data file, as the package for that country | 09:31 |
| lbt | right | 09:31 |
| lbt | so you're describing a service | 09:31 |
| chriadam | ok | 09:31 |
| lbt | my 'but' is along the lines of reproducability | 09:32 |
| lbt | and versioning and triggers etc | 09:32 |
| lbt | do those things matter ? | 09:32 |
| chriadam | right. we only want to do all of this work in very special occasions (i.e., once just before we release). otherwise we do all this for no reason (plus it takes ages) | 09:32 |
| chriadam | maybe I was unclear, let me rephrase: | 09:33 |
| chriadam | the data files only need to be regenerated on very rare occasions == when we want to make a release of SFOS | 09:33 |
| lbt | yep | 09:33 |
| chriadam | we don't want to regenerate them usually, because it takes ages to regenerate them, and the diff/delta is usually tiny (e.g., one extra cell tower added) | 09:34 |
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| lbt | I wonder | 09:35 |
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| chriadam | lbt: as I mentioned, there's no rush to solve this one | 09:36 |
| lbt | when obs does a build it used to just use the tarball and spec files uploaded manually | 09:36 |
| lbt | nowadays those files can be provided by a service | 09:36 |
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| lbt | but I see no reason why you can't have a mix | 09:36 |
| lbt | so you can have the blob manually uploaded to the package in OBS | 09:37 |
| lbt | and not coming from git | 09:37 |
| lbt | it would happily survive a promotion or copypac | 09:37 |
| lbt | so yeah - many solutions - the last one would be closest to how you do it at the moment but would avoid blobs-in-git | 09:38 |
| lbt | ok - back to webhooks .... l8r o/ | 09:38 |
| chriadam | thanks! | 09:38 |
| * chriadam heads home - have a good weekend everyone | 09:38 | |
| SfietKonstantinW | good we chriadam :) | 09:39 |
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