Friday, 2016-11-04

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dr_gogeta86chriadam, still here ?08:43
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chriadamdr_gogeta86: yes08:46
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dr_gogeta86the actual infra is ephemeral08:53
dr_gogeta86if you bring it down ... everything is lost08:54
dr_gogeta86for this reason i've left sqlite into ownclouds08:54
chriadamdr_gogeta86: that's a "good thing" right?  does it mean we can just reset it back to clean state by doing some "docker reset" thing?08:55
chriadamor am I misunderstanding?08:56
dr_gogeta86docker-compose down && docker-compose up08:56
dr_gogeta86and you cleaned the stage08:56
dr_gogeta86for this reason i've invite you to download and get your hands dirty08:57
chriadamyes, I will hopefully have time next week08:57
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chriadamdr_gogeta86: I guess that that requires ssh access to the server where it's running though08:58
dr_gogeta86ofcourse08:59
chriadamand I want to avoid the need for that.  hrm.  I guess one option would be to expose that capability via a web-API somehow08:59
dr_gogeta86need a 3rd party infra08:59
dr_gogeta86i can investigate on that08:59
dr_gogeta86i dunno if any CI is inplace08:59
chriadamI don't know the details of the CI, lbt would know09:00
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dr_gogeta86I hope to answare the mail as soon as i can09:03
lbtI think we should write a web app in django to manage this stuff09:14
lbtdjango is pretty trivial to use in this respect and we use it in many other services09:14
chriadamin the meantime, I will investigate a curl script ot do it manually via propfind+delete09:19
chriadambut yeah, going forward that would be useful09:19
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lbtso chriadam... about the binary GPS data at build time09:26
chriadamyep!09:26
lbtthat's forbidden at the moment as the build happens in a non-networked isolated VM09:26
lbtthat won't change09:27
lbtso we need an injection mechanism09:27
lbtone simple solution would be to put the blobs into a different package09:27
lbta pure data package09:27
lbtand the build-depend on it09:27
lbtand then re-export the relevant blob in the rpms from the package09:27
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lbtthat pure-data package may not be git managed09:28
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lbtor...09:28
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lbtwe could run a dedicated _service which pulls the blobs into the rpm directory just prior to build09:29
lbtthat's a bit more magical though09:29
lbtso that's the kind of approach I'd start whiteboarding with09:29
chriadamto add to the complexity:09:29
lbtyep - get it all out there!09:29
chriadammozilla releases giant .csv files daily with updates09:30
chriadamI wrote a tool to preprocess that file and generate a compressed-binary-format data file, for a given bounding box09:30
chriadamso the data files I mentioned, are those outputs, which currently we generate manually using the tool, and check in09:30
chriadamin the future, would be better to be able to automate the whole thing as part of the build step09:30
chriadami.e., take the .csv file, run my tool over it with the required bounding boxes (as defined in the .spec for each country's package's build instruction)09:31
lbtso the <service> concept is simple and powerful ... "run this service to get data to put in the build root"09:31
lbtusually that gets src09:31
chriadamthen package the resulting compressed binary data file, as the package for that country09:31
lbtright09:31
lbtso you're describing a service09:31
chriadamok09:31
lbtmy 'but' is along the lines of reproducability09:32
lbtand versioning and triggers etc09:32
lbtdo those things matter ?09:32
chriadamright.  we only want to do all of this work in very special occasions (i.e., once just before we release).  otherwise we do all this for no reason (plus it takes ages)09:32
chriadammaybe I was unclear, let me rephrase:09:33
chriadamthe data files only need to be regenerated on very rare occasions == when we want to make a release of SFOS09:33
lbtyep09:33
chriadamwe don't want to regenerate them usually, because it takes ages to regenerate them, and the diff/delta is usually tiny (e.g., one extra cell tower added)09:34
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lbtI wonder09:35
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chriadamlbt: as I mentioned, there's no rush to solve this one09:36
lbtwhen obs does a build it used to just use the tarball and spec files uploaded manually09:36
lbtnowadays those files can be provided by a service09:36
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lbtbut I see no reason why you can't have a mix09:36
lbtso you can have the blob manually uploaded to the package in OBS09:37
lbtand not coming from git09:37
lbtit would happily survive a promotion or copypac09:37
lbtso yeah - many solutions - the last one would be closest to how you do it at the moment but would avoid blobs-in-git09:38
lbtok - back to webhooks .... l8r o/09:38
chriadamthanks!09:38
* chriadam heads home - have a good weekend everyone09:38
SfietKonstantinWgood we chriadam :)09:39
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