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M4rtinK_lbt: the "Activity" section is empty13:12
M4rtinK_lbt: https://git.merproject.org/groups/mer-core13:12
M4rtinK_lbt: is that a known issue ?13:12
M4rtinK_AFAIK there used to be a nice timeline of what's going on it Mer there13:13
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lbtit is ?13:17
lbtare you logged in?13:18
lbtM4rtinK_: ^13:18
lbtI see a nice timeline of whats.... :D13:18
M4rtinK_lbt: I'm not13:19
M4rtinK_lbt: any reason I should be to see the timeline ?13:19
lbtmeh ....13:20
lbtit's almost certainly a gitlab design decision13:20
M4rtinK_(especially given the current issues with real people registering vs spam accounts)13:20
M4rtinK_I don't want to be stingy but it really looks bad13:21
M4rtinK_especially as there is no indication that you need to login to see something13:21
lbtyep - I guess the point is that I doubt I or anyone else will change it in the code anytime soon - simply too many other things to do13:22
* lbt is being honest about priorities :)13:22
M4rtinK_of course13:22
lbtOTOH if an option appears in gitlab then I'll enable it13:23
lbt(and I will go look .... just in case it's there)13:23
M4rtinK_I'm just pointing it out as even though its certainly a relatively small thing13:23
M4rtinK_it can still be important for the image of the project (is something going on or is it dead ?)13:24
lbtyeah - I have forbidden private projects and default views to be as open as possible13:24
lbtI suspect the issue is the compute cost of the page13:24
M4rtinK_or for not shooing away potential developers (I need to register to even just check whats going on - and I can't register...)13:24
M4rtinK_ok, thanks :)13:25
lbtexactly - I'd rather fix the can't register issue when I get a few mins/hours13:25
lbthmm - nothing in settings13:26
lbtI'd like to integrate a captcha into bz - but I can't seem to see a plugin anywhere13:26
M4rtinK_until then I think "To get an account please register on our Bugzilla and after a few minutes you can login using your account name (not email)."13:27
M4rtinK_should be changed accordingly13:27
M4rtinK_"go to IRC and ask"13:27
* lbt edits13:27
lbthttps://git.merproject.org13:29
lbt?13:29
M4rtinK_yep, looks good :)13:30
M4rtinK_thanks! :)13:30
lbtty13:30
M4rtinK_lbt: found this, BTW: https://gist.github.com/petr999/27879413:34
M4rtinK_lbt: it is being discussed in this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38048913:34
merbotMozilla bug 380489 in Administration "Bugzilla can be abused by spammers" [Major,New]13:34
M4rtinK_not sure how relevant though13:34
lbtI was on this old one : https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44400213:34
merbotMozilla bug 444002 in Public Pages "Add recaptcha to user registration" [Normal,Verified: fixed]13:34
lbtI'm also quite suspicious that the spammers I have are real people13:36
lbtmy bugzilla already has an extra (mandatory) field13:36
lbthmmm I think it's mandatory13:36
lbtit is - and it must not exist13:37
M4rtinK_not sure what can be done about real people13:38
M4rtinK_I actually wonder how it can even pay off for them13:38
lbtblock registration for a few weeks until they take us off their list - then open it again...13:38
M4rtinK_maybe that13:38
lbtme too - at least I have a nice way to remove all spam from the wiki13:38
lbtI think I would like to have accounts need to be authorised by an admin before they're unblocked13:39
M4rtinK_BTW, another naive captcha/verification idea13:39
M4rtinK_I suppose there are email verification link emails13:39
lbtyes13:40
M4rtinK_from bugzilla13:40
M4rtinK_if you could intercept those13:40
M4rtinK_and resend with a link to custom site13:40
lbtyep - and they're all gmail or similar accounts13:40
M4rtinK_that has captcha or whatever13:40
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* lbt notes the irony ... google are blocking me for having spam in the wiki13:40
lbtspam that comes from people that use gmail accounts to register!!!!13:40
M4rtinK_and only if the "challenge" on your site is successfully completed give them the actual link to account activation13:41
M4rtinK_just an idea to sidestep Bugzilla for the verification13:42
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M4rtinK_not sure if it would actually be less problematic that a Bugzilla based solution13:42
* lbt nods ...13:42
M4rtinK_BTW, https://sailfishos.org/wiki uses what for login ?13:46
M4rtinK_also the LDAP one ?13:47
lbtyes - ldap for everything13:47
lbtso register on bz ... then if you are not blocked your account -> ldap13:47
Stskeeps(tld;r: sailfishos's ldap)13:47
Stskeepsnot mer ldap13:47
lbtoh - sorry13:48
M4rtinK_then it should be noted there :)13:48
M4rtinK_https://sailfishos.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&returnto=Application+Development13:48
* lbt notes channel :)13:48
lbtit's closed atm - we need to do some work on that side13:48
M4rtinK_at least if the idea is that people should be able to do something with it13:48
lbtthey will - that's why it's a wiki13:48
* lbt is working on it atm = platform SDK area13:49
M4rtinK_I think even just page watching would be useful :)13:49
lbtalthough I may go fix some missing links...13:49
M4rtinK_ok :)13:51
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HyPyHey... Anyone there?20:45
Stskeepssure20:46
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HyPyI'm sorry for not knowing, but how alive is the project?20:47
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Stskeepsit's alive20:48
HyPyI'm making a research to look for an open source linux-based mobile system that uses C APIs20:49
HyPyOh, that's good to know20:49
Stskeepswell, for that you can also look at tizen as well, which is practically C-based, not really a lot of C++20:49
Stskeepsuses EFL etc20:49
Stskeepsbut bbl for me, it's sleep tie20:50
HyPyI've had a look at tizen and also at Ubuntu Touch, but mer has specially raised my attention... Well , as C API, I mean support to install CLI programs20:52
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r0kk3rzHyPy: yeah thats the main benefit of mer based systems, the CLI support is fine21:24
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HyPyOh, so does the CLI works fine? If it does, I can also think about a second advantage of met based systems, it could run a chrooted environment of any distro supporting the hardware, but may I just my last question? What are the devices that are supported by met based systems?23:46
HyPyMER* not met23:46
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