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| chriadam | sledges: I'm looking at the bugs.merproject.org components list - it seems that (to some degree) each component is basically a package (although in some cases that may not be true) | 00:51 |
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| chriadam | sledges: is this the intention? or is it intended that we have components which cover an area (and bugs for all packages involved with that area, get lumped under that component)? | 00:52 |
| chriadam | sledges: in particular, we need to add components for: contacts (currently, only contactsd exists as a component; we need to add libcontacts, nemo-qml-plugin-contacts, qtcontacts-sqlite); buteo (buteo-syncfw, buteo-syncml, buteo-sync-plugins (and the other buteo-sync-plugin* packages)); calendar (kcalcore, mkcal); accounts&sso (libaccounts-glib, libaccounts-qt, libsignon, signon-plugin-*); ... probably more as I think of them. | 00:54 |
| chriadam | ^ this assumes that we're meant to use the mer:core bug area for nemo:mw bugs too now (iamer's email seemed to suggest that is the case) | 00:55 |
| chriadam | oh, under buteo, also need "libsocialcache" | 01:00 |
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| lpotter | so who is the keeper of merge rights? Sage__ ? Stskeeps ? | 04:53 |
| lpotter | specifically for qt-sensors and qt-systems in mer-qt | 04:53 |
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| Stskeeps | chriadam: i believe iekku has bugtracker maintainer rights too, to thandle that | 05:45 |
| iekku | chriadam, Stskeeps: yes, i have. i will add those now, sledges is on vacation | 05:47 |
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| iekku | chriadam, just to clarify under which product you want those components? notice: path mer core > calendar > kcalcore isn't possible, but mer core > kcalcore is | 05:54 |
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| deztructor | sledges: please, add "statefs" and "vault" components to the mer bz | 06:19 |
| chriadam | iekku: actually, I guess that's part of my question | 06:21 |
| chriadam | ie, do we want "per-area component groups" (like the hypothetical "calendar" component group) | 06:22 |
| chriadam | or do we want one component for each package (ie, no "calendar" component, just straight "kcalcore" component | 06:22 |
| chriadam | Stskeeps: do we have a policy / direction with respect to "component organisation" in mer? is it per-package, or per-area? | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | per-package; permissions are more over in who owns the packages | 06:23 |
| iekku | deztructor, under which component? i will do it | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | it's sometimes really hard to tell what components are under what area in practice | 06:24 |
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| Stskeeps | and mer (and sailfish) is collection of components | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | er, packages | 06:24 |
| chriadam | iekku: ok, in that case, just add each of the packages directly as components - thanks | 06:24 |
| chriadam | Stskeeps: right, it just becomes confusing when filing bugs, that's all | 06:24 |
| chriadam | eg, some bug: "contact name appears wrongly" could require fix in three packages: qtcontacts-sqlite, libcontacts, nemo-qml-plugin-contacts | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 06:25 |
| chriadam | so do we file just one bug? under which package? or do we file three identical bugs (urgh)? | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | at the same time it's more likely to start in one package and then dive down to dependencie | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | one bug, i think it's possible to be in multiple components isn't it? | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | (iekku?) | 06:25 |
| deztructor | iekku, Stskeeps it looks like all components are packages... so, in this view there should be a lot of additional components added (aka packages), maybe we should group 'em somehow? | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | grouping is always subjective | 06:26 |
| deztructor | to avoid hundreds of components | 06:26 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, i think it's only one component / bug | 06:26 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, let me check | 06:26 |
| iekku | yes, only one | 06:27 |
| deztructor | or somebody should just take the list of existing projects in mer/nemo and send an e-mail to get from maintainers info which components are actual | 06:27 |
| iekku | deztructor, we have many already | 06:28 |
| iekku | one option is to set more suitable product for components coming from old nemo | 06:29 |
| deztructor | iekku: yes, and these components just reflect some of existing packages | 06:29 |
| deztructor | so, they can't be used as umbrella for other packages | 06:29 |
| chriadam | no grouping will be perfect (eg, buteo-sync-plugins-carddav - does that belong under a hypothetical "contacts" group, or a hypothetical "sync" group?) but I'd suggest that some organisation is better than none. Just my opinion. | 06:29 |
| chriadam | but oh well. | 06:29 |
| Stskeeps | chriadam: i don't disagree; but any attempt at grouping so far has just been confusing for users of the components.. in my experience | 06:30 |
| chriadam | hrm. | 06:30 |
| deztructor | nothing prevents us from assigning several components to one bug | 06:30 |
| chriadam | fair enough. | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | meego had real difficulty of 'where to file the component' | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | AND | 06:30 |
| Stskeeps | we do have bug triages, or used to, to make sure they went the right place | 06:30 |
| iekku | deztructor, bug can have only one component | 06:30 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, i think it's high time to start it again | 06:31 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 06:31 |
| deztructor | iekku: now it can have... | 06:31 |
| chriadam | so, what's the expected workflow for the case that I described before? for me, I mean? file just one bug, in just one of the components, but reference that MER#XXX in all three commits in the different repos? | 06:31 |
| Stskeeps | chriadam: no harm in that IMHO | 06:31 |
| chriadam | ok | 06:31 |
| deztructor | and should we add all existing projects as components to avoid usage of the "other"? | 06:32 |
| Stskeeps | probably not a bad idea | 06:32 |
| iekku | we had following products in nemo: applications, hardware adaptation, middleware, nemo infra, qa, ux and under those components (or packages) | 06:33 |
| iekku | in mer we have: mer core, mer crosshelpers, mer infra, mer integration tools, mer it, mer policies and processes, mer qa, mer vendor interface | 06:33 |
| iekku | question: should some of the nemo products be in mer bz, to make life easier? | 06:34 |
| * iekku isn't sure if components chriadam and deztructor asked for fits really under mer core.. | 06:34 | |
| Stskeeps | everything nemo mw is to be considered as part of mer core nowadays | 06:35 |
| iekku | ok, then it fits | 06:35 |
| deztructor | maybe it'd be good to split components by different products, at least to separate infrastructure, hw indepent parts and hw adaptation | 06:35 |
| deztructor | mer core does not split hw adaptation from hw-indep components | 06:36 |
| iekku | chriadam, did you have others than: libcontacts, nemo-qml-plugin-contacts, qtcontacts-sqlite, buteo-syncfw, buteo-syncml, buteo-sync-plugins, libsocialcache, kcalcore, mkcal , libaccounts-glib,libaccounts-qt, libsignon, signon-plugin-* | 06:38 |
| iekku | chriadam, and do you want to be default cc on those? | 06:39 |
| iekku | deztructor, and you had only statefs, vault? | 06:39 |
| iekku | deztructor, and do you want to be default cc? | 06:39 |
| deztructor | iekku: I have cor, qtaround, statefs, statefs-qt, statefs-providers, vault | 06:40 |
| deztructor | I guess, all statefs* can be assigned to single statefs component | 06:40 |
| deztructor | maybe | 06:40 |
| chriadam | iekku: also libsailfishkeyprovider | 06:40 |
| chriadam | iekku: and pvuorela should be the default assignee for kcalcore and mkcal, mvogt should be the default assignee for libcontacts/nemo-qml-plugin-contacts/qtcontacts-sqlite | 06:41 |
| chriadam | but yes I'll be the default assignee for the rest. | 06:41 |
| chriadam | thanks | 06:42 |
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| iekku | chriadam, default assignee is "need-triage", after triage it's "triaged", maintainers are usually in cc list | 06:45 |
| iekku | deztructor, so instead of 3 different statefs, one statefs* ? | 06:46 |
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| iekku | chriadam, new components added | 07:03 |
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| chriadam | tyvm | 07:13 |
| iekku | np | 07:14 |
| iekku | back in old days we used to have every Monday Mer bug triage 11:00 UTC and Nemo 7:00 UTC | 07:17 |
| iekku | i was thinking if we could start to have Mer triages again, and what time would be good for most | 07:18 |
| deztructor | iekku: just "statefs" | 07:21 |
| deztructor | and we'll see is it enough (I think it'll be enough) | 07:21 |
| SfietKonstantinW | iekku: please do bug triage again :) | 07:27 |
| SfietKonstantinW | iekku: maybe a post on Mer / SailfishOS ML | 07:28 |
| SfietKonstantinW | for the time to do tirage | 07:28 |
| iekku | deztructor, ok | 07:29 |
| iekku | SfietKonstantinW, :nod: | 07:29 |
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| iekku | deztructor, | 07:32 |
| iekku | cor, qtaround, statefs, vault added | 07:32 |
| deztructor | iekku: ty! | 07:33 |
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| iekku | SfietKonstantinW, check Mer / SailfishOS ML | 10:36 |
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| iekku | hmm, my mail didn't show up to Mer ML :o | 11:28 |
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| stephg | moderated? | 11:30 |
| stephg | (awaiting moderation I mean?) | 11:31 |
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| iekku | might be | 11:44 |
| iekku | lbt, ping ^^ | 11:45 |
| iekku | or then it's just my mail client | 11:53 |
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| vgrade | iekku: I did not see it here | 12:10 |
| vgrade | saw it to sailfish-devel but not mer-general | 12:10 |
| iekku | ok | 12:11 |
| iekku | need to check that i sent it to correct address | 12:11 |
| iekku | mer-general@lists.merproject.org should be valid, right? | 12:11 |
| iekku | vgrade, and thanks <3 | 12:12 |
| vgrade | iekku: that right | 12:14 |
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| * iekku hopes someone will soon allow it :) | 12:30 | |
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| kontio | iekku: did you sent it from an e-mail address which is not subscribed to mer-general? might be the reason it's held back... | 12:32 |
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| iekku | kontio, true! might be so | 13:55 |
| iekku | need to check | 13:55 |
| iekku | kontio, actually, i should be subscribed as i'm receiving mails.. | 13:55 |
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| kontio | iekku: there is still a chance you might have mixed up from which "account" resp. with which sender e-mail address you sent it :) | 14:02 |
| iekku | kontio, checked that too. receiving and sent from same address :P | 14:05 |
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| iekku | i knew you would say that next :D | 14:05 |
| kontio | ok was worth checking :) | 14:05 |
| iekku | it was | 14:05 |
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| merlin1991 | hm how to actually unsubcribe from the mer-general list? | 14:24 |
| * merlin1991 has a subscription on an old email account -> duplicates | 14:25 | |
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| flyingkiwiguy | hi guys | 16:33 |
| Stskeeps | hello hello | 16:33 |
| flyingkiwiguy | after numerous flash attempts got SailfishOS up on my Nexus 5 | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | you can try over in #sailfishos-porters :) | 16:34 |
| flyingkiwiguy | and now running Apache: http://sequoia.dyndns.org:8080/cpuinfo.txt | 16:34 |
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| flyingkiwiguy | also got some Flash drives hanging off it: | 16:35 |
| Stskeeps | otg works on n5? | 16:35 |
| flyingkiwiguy | followed the instructions here: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/Install_SailfishOS_for_hammerhead | 16:36 |
| flyingkiwiguy | my current partitions: | 16:36 |
| flyingkiwiguy | Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 31.3 GB, 31268536320 bytes, 61071360 sectors Disk /dev/mmcblk0rpmb: 4 MB, 4194304 bytes, 8192 sectors Disk /dev/sda: 64.0 GB, 64016220160 bytes, 125031680 sectors Disk /dev/sdb: 64.0 GB, 64016220160 bytes, 125031680 sectors | 16:37 |
| flyingkiwiguy | was pondering running RAID1 on my Nexus 5 now ;-) | 16:37 |
| flyingkiwiguy | my problem is that ssh is very laggy over WiFi | 16:37 |
| Stskeeps | is it in suspend? | 16:37 |
| flyingkiwiguy | suspend? | 16:37 |
| Stskeeps | as in display off | 16:38 |
| flyingkiwiguy | I enabled the performance CPU governor | 16:38 |
| flyingkiwiguy | yeah | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | that's why, it's literally waking up every single time you send a letter or packet to it and rapidly going back to sleep | 16:38 |
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| flyingkiwiguy | as it is continuously powered can I disable suspend then? | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | i think you can avoid suspending but i forget how atm | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | probably mce-tools package | 16:38 |
| Stskeeps | or -dev | 16:38 |
| flyingkiwiguy | I'm trying to build a nice little private Linux server around the Nexus 5 - hang some storage off it. Private Dropbox, etc. Wifi with fallback to 4G, dynamic DNS, etc | 16:39 |
| Stskeeps | yeah sounds like it | 16:39 |
| flyingkiwiguy | cheers | 16:40 |
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| spiiroin | flyingkiwiguy: Stskeeps: mcetool --set-suspend-policy=disabled | 16:42 |
| flyingkiwiguy | yup - just did that - thx! | 16:43 |
| * Stskeeps ponders if spiiroin has mce as highlight | 16:43 | |
| flyingkiwiguy | is that persistent across reboots? | 16:43 |
| spiiroin | flyingkiwiguy: yes | 16:44 |
| flyingkiwiguy | coolio | 16:44 |
| flyingkiwiguy | anyone know if YaST is supported so I can easily pull in RPMs? I have got pkcon / zypper / Warehouse installed, but coming from the Debian world it feels a bit fragmented... | 16:49 |
| Stskeeps | it's nit | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | not | 16:50 |
| flyingkiwiguy | guess I'll be compiling from source then | 16:52 |
| flyingkiwiguy | thx for all the help | 16:52 |
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| flyingkiwiguy | any estimate of my chances of getting a Linux kernel to compile on the Nexus 5? | 17:01 |
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| r0kk3rz | flyingkiwiguy: check on https://build.merproject.org/ for packages first | 17:22 |
| r0kk3rz | you can always create your own packages as well | 17:22 |
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| vgrade | now this is handy, http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/elc_telephony_piirainen_0.pdf | 17:34 |
| Stskeeps | indeed | 17:35 |
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