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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: ok, gcc is ok, I'm going to open a merge request | 08:14 |
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| Stskeeps | cool | 08:14 |
| Uninstall | time for an espresso before it | 08:17 |
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| Stskeeps | i unclogged ppl/cloog for now | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | just to get stuff built | 08:17 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/gcc/merge_requests/1 | 09:15 |
| Uninstall | have fun ;) | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | let's see.. | 09:15 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: we were not doing build_cloog while doing crossbuild... I killed that thing | 09:16 |
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| Stskeeps | so where does the +cat >> ../../cloog-%{cloog_version}/source/isl/constraints.c << \EOF 630 | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | etc come from? | 09:19 |
| Uninstall | fedora | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:19 |
| Stskeeps | and they become .so's or .a's? | 09:19 |
| Uninstall | i trust it makes sense | 09:19 |
| Uninstall | +%{_prefix}/lib/gcc/%{gcc_target_platform}/%{gcc_version}/libcloog-isl.so.* | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:20 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: is it possible to change the scheduler for a certain project on OBS? | 09:30 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm only manually i'd say | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | let's see if it builds.. | 09:31 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: you mean using osc? | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | yeah as a start | 09:32 |
| Uninstall | my idea was to try to bootstrap aarch64 on our local OBS, but sadly we are still using the old version | 09:33 |
| Uninstall | so it doesn't have aarch64 scheduler I think | 09:33 |
| Uninstall | what's the right scheduler on the old OBS? | 09:34 |
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| Stskeeps | Uninstall: http://pastie.org/9512569 | 09:57 |
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| Stskeeps | also missing .04 tarball | 09:58 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: sorry, my fault while porting it to mer | 09:59 |
| Uninstall | fixing it in a second | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | nod, that's why i build test first ;) | 09:59 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: do you like to have it updated to 2014.04 or we keep it to current version? | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | should we play it safe and keep it at .01 right now, then .04 when it works? | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | a lot easier to sort out | 10:00 |
| Uninstall | ok, sure | 10:00 |
| Uninstall | let's do just the cloog thing | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 10:00 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: pushed | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | was just 04 -> 01 in %setup right? | 10:01 |
| * tbr still hopes for an affordable ARMv8 board in the near future | 10:02 | |
| * Stskeeps too | 10:02 | |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: yes | 10:07 |
| Uninstall | tbr: Jetson TK1 aarch64 version | 10:07 |
| Uninstall | I have the armv7 version which is quite cool and woth the low price | 10:07 |
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| tbr | Uninstall: is there going to be one, that would be awesome | 10:11 |
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| Uninstall | tbr: they also announced that their CPU will be quite different from others | 10:13 |
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| Uninstall | they are going to build something like the old transmeta design | 10:14 |
| tbr | let's hope that doesn't mean breaking things in the name of "differentiation" | 10:14 |
| Uninstall | with no instruction reordering inside the CPU | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: it allllways does | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:14 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: yeah, that's what I'm afraid of | 10:15 |
| Uninstall | and it will be done by a separated unit that then it caches the output | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | Uninstall: ok, it built it seems like.. will take a more swing at it in a moment | 10:22 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: probably you missed the question, what kind of OBS scheduler should I use for older OBS versions? | 10:41 |
| Stskeeps | that i don't know | 10:42 |
| Uninstall | ok | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | aarch64 is what i use as we upgraded | 10:42 |
| Uninstall | by the way is it ok that new OBS version doesn't display logs? | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | it does but it's a bit tempermental when it comes to browsers | 10:42 |
| Uninstall | honestly I still don't know the real meaning of schedulers, why armv7hl is armv8el and armv6l is armv7el and things like that | 10:43 |
| Uninstall | what's the difference between schedulers? | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | nothing really | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | labes | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | labels | 10:44 |
| Uninstall | oh, I see | 10:45 |
| Uninstall | this will save me some headaches | 10:45 |
| Uninstall | so I will name aarch64 on our OBS armv8el and then I will rename it to aarch64 using some kind of OBS trick? | 10:45 |
| Uninstall | do you think is a good plan? | 10:45 |
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| Stskeeps | is up to you, careful about prjconfs | 10:46 |
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| Uninstall | thank you :() | 10:48 |
| Uninstall | :) | 10:48 |
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| Stskeeps | Uninstall: http://pastie.org/9512677 | 11:03 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: I see, I didn't test it on aarch64, I think I need the usual config.guess config.sub patch? | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 11:04 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file?file=isl-0.11.1-aarch64-config.patch&package=gcc&project=home%3Aeenemo%3Abranches%3Amer%3Amds2%3ACore%3Aarmv7hl%3Amaster&rev=2 <-- Cool | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:08 |
| Uninstall | I'm going to commit/push it | 11:08 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 11:09 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: fixed | 11:16 |
| Uninstall | check it | 11:16 |
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| Stskeeps | need new MR though | 11:17 |
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| Stskeeps | will merge if i get a MR, be aware i already merged your previous MR.. | 11:18 |
| Uninstall | oh, I see | 11:19 |
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| Uninstall | wait a second... | 11:21 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/gcc/merge_requests/2 | 11:24 |
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| Stskeeps | forgot to bundle patch? | 11:26 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: it was already there from fedora a long time ago ;) | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | so it is | 11:26 |
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| Stskeeps | Uninstall: hmm, i think we have a manual cloog-ppl >= dependency | 12:03 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: where do you think? | 12:03 |
| Stskeeps | %if %{build_cloog} | 12:04 |
| Stskeeps | Requires: cloog-ppl >= 0.15 | 12:04 |
| Stskeeps | %endif | 12:04 |
| Stskeeps | we can prolly ditch that | 12:04 |
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| Uninstall | weird, I think I alrady removed it | 12:04 |
| Stskeeps | not in my gcc at least | 12:04 |
| Uninstall | odd, I don't see that line here | 12:05 |
| Stskeeps | https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/gcc/blob/master/gcc.spec#L178 | 12:06 |
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| Uninstall | I see, I removed it only once | 12:07 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: did you already merge previous MR? | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | hyes | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | it built fine for i486 at least | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | so just send a new one and i think we've rid the world nicely of cloog and ppl dependencies ;) | 12:09 |
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| Stskeeps | else i'll just push it quickly.. | 12:29 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: sorry, I had some network issues, going to creare MR right now | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | ah ok | 12:30 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/gcc/merge_requests/3 | 12:31 |
| Uninstall | gcc.git is a quite big repo ;) | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | let's see how this builds.. | 12:35 |
| Stskeeps | lbt_: gitlab is giving 502 | 12:42 |
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| lbt | I hoped no-one would notice | 12:42 |
| lbt | forgot to PSA ... sorry | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | it's a good sign that we use it | 12:42 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:42 |
| lbt | yeah - I've been head down in obs source stuff and shoulda mentioned it | 12:43 |
| sledges | :) | 12:43 |
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| lbt | PSA: git is back :) | 12:49 |
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| catern | I think mer should include GPLv3 software | 15:59 |
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| catern | it's a pointless assault on user freedom and contrary to the spirit of the GPL to not allow it | 15:59 |
| sledges | all I know (and probably some others in this channel), that GPLv3 permits software patents, could be completely wrong so would like to hear from you more about it (i don't know real reasons GPLv3 is not in Mer) | 16:00 |
| catern | also, Ubuntu Touch include GPLv3 stuff and they don't appear to be concerned | 16:00 |
| sledges | as i never took interest, but now got someone to talk to :) | 16:00 |
| stephg | :) | 16:00 |
| catern | hm? GPLv3 requires not doing any bad patent stuff (I'll/you'll have to look up the exact wording if you want) and GPLv2 just doesn't mention it | 16:02 |
| catern | so, GPLv2 is much less of a protection here | 16:02 |
| catern | there's a lot of stuff about this on the FSF's site | 16:02 |
| catern | http://www.gnu.org/licenses/rms-why-gplv3.html | 16:02 |
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| SK_work | Stskeeps, lbt opinions ^ ? | 16:03 |
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| sledges | i always ask our good ole tbr for an opinion too | 16:25 |
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| SK_work | true | 16:29 |
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| SK_work | tbr give nice info too | 16:30 |
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| lbt | catern: one thing about delivering what your customers want is to be clear about your customers and what they want :) Mer's focus is on device vendors. We're mainly interested in what they want. They're not demandiing GPLv3 at the moment and in fact are still averse to it. That's why we are as we are. | 16:45 |
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| catern | lbt: well, it *really* weirds me out to see an open source project barring GPLv3 | 16:51 |
| catern | that's what OS X does, and it feels strange - also, you might at least package the GPLv3 updated versions and make them available | 16:52 |
| catern | that is, that's what OS X [a proprietary system] does, and it's strange [for an open system to do it] | 16:53 |
| catern | also, I mean, *you* know that the device vendors are being silly for being afraid of GPLv3 | 16:55 |
| catern | are they really so averse to it? do they really bring it up specifically? do they really ask for "no GPLv3"? | 16:56 |
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| SK_work | catern: however, device vendors requires this | 17:01 |
| SK_work | as mer is an intermediate project, they need to fit the need of vendors | 17:01 |
| SK_work | tjat's all | 17:01 |
| SK_work | and it is not as if you didn't had the right to install the packages you want | 17:01 |
| SK_work | just grab bash and that's all | 17:02 |
| catern | i mean, it's not that awful in itself | 17:02 |
| catern | it just makes me suspicious of you :) | 17:02 |
| SK_work | catern: what is suspicious to an OSS lover (defender, advocate, zealot, choose what you want) is that SFOS is not oss | 17:03 |
| SK_work | ;) | 17:03 |
| catern | well yes | 17:03 |
| catern | i guess i should be more suspicious about that | 17:03 |
| SK_work | well, maybe you shouldn't as the system is pretty ok | 17:03 |
| SK_work | (mostly OSS, quite hackable) | 17:04 |
| SK_work | so ... | 17:04 |
| catern | what actual parts of it aren't FLOSS? | 17:04 |
| SK_work | UI | 17:04 |
| SK_work | Android engine | 17:04 |
| SK_work | text input prediction | 17:04 |
| SK_work | and on the Jolla, of course, HW adaptation | 17:04 |
| SK_work | (ie drivers) | 17:04 |
| SK_work | some daemons (exchange active sync, otherhalf daemon) | 17:04 |
| SK_work | (ambience daemon) | 17:05 |
| catern | how much of the UI? how deep down the stack of the UI? | 17:05 |
| catern | like, is the Wayland server FLOSS? | 17:05 |
| catern | or compositor or whatever | 17:05 |
| SK_work | catern: basically everything you see is non-oss (-assets and the toolkit used under) | 17:05 |
| SK_work | the wayland compositor is based on lipstick, which is oss | 17:05 |
| SK_work | they implement their own lipstick (aka the homescreen) that is not | 17:06 |
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| SK_work | but you can ask locusf for glacier, an OSS homescreen | 17:06 |
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| SK_work | (oss OS actually, that is Nemo Mobile) | 17:06 |
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| catern | this is a really cruel dilemma sailfish puts me in you know :) | 17:07 |
| SK_work | meh | 17:07 |
| catern | proprietary and GNU/Linux or open source and Dalvik/Linux :) | 17:07 |
| SK_work | no dalvik | 17:07 |
| catern | I mean Android :) | 17:07 |
| SK_work | (except if you run the android thing) | 17:07 |
| SK_work | the part of Android used in HA is opensource | 17:07 |
| SK_work | however underlying drivers are not of course | 17:08 |
| catern | I meant all of AOSP - that has open source UI :) | 17:08 |
| SK_work | yep, opensource "reference ui" | 17:08 |
| sledges | and what's the use of aosp? http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/ | 17:09 |
| SK_work | anyway, for a user of the Jolla, and opensource lover, I find the Jolla /quite/ hackable | 17:09 |
| catern | sledges: just because it's becoming more proprietary, isn't an excuse for Jolla | 17:09 |
| sledges | 20:07 < catern> proprietary and GNU/Linux or open source and Dalvik/Linux :) | 17:09 |
| sledges | i wouldn't call that a dilemma imgo | 17:09 |
| sledges | when we talk in terms of being able to use the platform daily | 17:10 |
| SK_work | catern: closed soruce ahs been discussed: you have a process and a vision behind (designers work etc.) so letting a community do UI work don't fit in their workflow | 17:10 |
| SK_work | etc. | 17:10 |
| SK_work | and if you are unhappy you can do some work to implement / reimplement closed stuff on Jolla | 17:10 |
| catern | it's still disappointing but it's better than the alternatives | 17:11 |
| SK_work | of course, you will still sit on an Android kernel | 17:11 |
| SK_work | catern: go get your neo 900 | 17:11 |
| SK_work | ;) | 17:11 |
| SK_work | if you want just OSS | 17:11 |
| SK_work | and full OSS | 17:11 |
| sledges | \o/ | 17:11 |
| SK_work | maybe I should get one when out | 17:12 |
| SK_work | ... | 17:12 |
| SK_work | not sure yet | 17:12 |
| sledges | and put nemo on :) | 17:12 |
| SK_work | sledges: yep | 17:12 |
| SK_work | I should work for nemo, but too lazy, and doing sailfish stuff instead | 17:12 |
| locusf | I should too :p | 17:13 |
| SK_work | trying to port java on the mer / nemo : sailfish platform | 17:13 |
| SK_work | will check C# too | 17:13 |
| SK_work | because, there might be a world outside C++ and Qt | 17:13 |
| SK_work | is there ? | 17:13 |
| sledges | SK_work: mono is coming btw | 17:13 |
| sledges | seen tizen thread? | 17:13 |
| locusf | python might be coming | 17:14 |
| sledges | (to sailfish) | 17:14 |
| SK_work | sledges: yep | 17:14 |
| SK_work | locusf: well, python is rather close to come | 17:14 |
| SK_work | the pyotherhalf thing is nice | 17:14 |
| SK_work | I'm thinking of doing jotherhalf | 17:14 |
| kimmoli | pyotherside ? | 17:14 |
| SK_work | (even if I'm not a java dev, but a friend is) | 17:14 |
| SK_work | kimmoli: from a bootstrapped QML app, you import a module that gives you a python env | 17:15 |
| kimmoli | y | 17:15 |
| SK_work | and you can populate QML side stuff (models) with python | 17:15 |
| SK_work | damn | 17:16 |
| SK_work | pyotherside:) | 17:16 |
| SK_work | :D | 17:16 |
| kimmoli | (that was my comment) | 17:16 |
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| SK_work | :P | 17:16 |
| SK_work | yeah, just understood | 17:16 |
| kimmoli | seems i'm more perl than python, still... | 17:17 |
| SK_work | kimmoli: brrr, perl :s | 17:17 |
| SK_work | I'm too young for perl | 17:17 |
| SK_work | as I never saw the Perl era | 17:17 |
| SK_work | directly dived into python | 17:17 |
| SK_work | now it seems I'm missing the javascript one :/ | 17:18 |
| kimmoli | nothing to shame on that imho | 17:18 |
| SK_work | well, missing a whole trend and potential job is a shame imo | 17:18 |
| SK_work | anyway | 17:19 |
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| SK_work | bye | 17:19 |
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| tbr | catern: it's tl;dr, but a few remarks from my side. you don't like closed source bits. That's fine, nobody here will argue with that. It's a sad fact though that many hardware specific parts are closed source with no easy/stable oss alternatives. Which leads me to another bit: no OS has that open, neither ubuntu, nor firefoxOS, nor Android. | 17:24 |
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| catern | some are closer than others | 17:25 |
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| tbr | when it comes to hardware adaptation, it's pretty much the same across the board | 17:41 |
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