Tuesday, 2014-08-26

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sledgesPSA: SailfishOSS @ #mer-meeting , ongoing10:16
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guanchehi11:23
guancheguys can I ask you something? I've owned a smartphone, and I'm thinking on buying this one:11:24
guanchehttp://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_mini_pro-3713.php11:24
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guanchebut it's locked with yoigo, I wanted to ask, if I root this phone (sony provides onlock codes for the bootloader) and flash it with a stock rom, then the phone will be free?11:25
guanchethe thing is that I can buy this mobile for 30 euros, but if I still have to pay another ~30 to unlock it, I don't see the point on buying it11:26
guancheas there are better offers on the second hand market in terms price/quality11:26
guanchesorry, the first comment should read "I've never owned a smartphone"11:26
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UninstallStskeeps: hello16:01
Stskeepsm0016:01
Uninstall:D16:02
UninstallStskeeps: https://gcc.gnu.org/install/prerequisites.html16:03
Stskeepswhat does fedora use / ubuntu?16:03
Uninstallaccording to this page, gcc graphite requires cloog-isl 0.1816:03
UninstallStskeeps: did you already the backlog about that topic?16:03
Stskeepsnot 100% no :P16:03
Stskeepsbeen a busy week16:03
Uninstallok, I will write it again briefly16:04
Uninstallwe are building cloog-ppl 0.1516:04
Uninstallaccording to that page gcc requires isl version, version 0.18.1 at least16:04
Uninstallso there are 2 possible approaches to that16:04
Uninstallfedora is building cloog and isl inside gcc16:05
Uninstalland they ship for some kind of reason cloog-ppl 0.15 as a separated package16:05
UninstallI don't see any single reference to cloog-isl around16:05
Stskeepsok16:05
Uninstallit seems that ubuntu is shipping cloog-isl 0.18.216:05
Stskeepsi wouldn't mind if we can get rid of that dependency16:06
Uninstallso I think they are building gcc against system one16:06
Uninstallplus our gcc spec is quite odd16:06
UninstallStskeeps: https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/gcc/blob/master/gcc.spec16:07
Uninstallwe are doing things like that: %ifnarch mips mipsel16:07
Uninstall%global build_cloog 116:07
Uninstall%else16:07
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Uninstalland we are using that variable just to decide if a patch has to be applied or not16:08
Uninstallbut we are not building it16:08
UninstallI think that is a Fedora leftover16:08
UninstallStskeeps: so what's going to be our plan on that topic?16:09
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Uninstallin the meantime we are using cloog-ppl with gcc 4.8 and it looks like graphite is being built anyway16:10
Stskeepsok16:11
Stskeepswell, best practices from ubuntu/linaro is what we usually follow16:11
Uninstall(I'm not sure if gcc has some sanity  checks about that, but I would switch to something officialy supported)16:11
UninstallStskeeps: so we should update cloog to isl version and use it as an external dependency, right?16:12
Stskeepsmakes sense16:12
Stskeepsi would kind of prefer internal dependency though, as nothing else uses it16:13
Stskeepsand the cloog dependency is a PITA16:13
UninstallStskeeps: I have no preferences, I just exponsed you the 2 different possibilities16:14
Stskeepsnod16:14
UninstallI'm not aware of any other package using it16:14
Uninstallif we are going to do this probably it will be possible to nuke cloog and probably ppl too16:15
Stskeepsit might be good to do :P16:15
Stskeepsthey're always troublesome16:15
Stskeepsupgrade -> boom16:15
Uninstallwe just have to add to git repo cloog and isl libraries16:15
Uninstallit would probably reduce the number of build cycles16:15
Stskeepsnod16:16
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UninstallStskeeps: ok, the plain is that I get in sync with fedora spec for that too16:17
Stskeepsnod16:17
Uninstall(I really don't know why we have that leftovers)16:17
Stskeepshistory..16:17
Stskeeps:P16:17
UninstallI see16:18
Uninstallthen later I will also take care to update gcc to the latest maintenance version16:18
Uninstallgcc 4.8 is now under maintenance by linaro, they are already doing bugfixing releases16:19
Stskeepsnod16:19
Uninstallthey are releasing it as gcc 4.8.4 (that officialy doesn't exist, last version is gcc 4.8.3, but it should be fine)16:19
UninstallI'm not going to propose to switch to gcc 4.9 for several reasons, including that has been explained by linus16:20
UninstallStskeeps: if you missed that: http://lkml.iu.edu//hypermail/linux/kernel/1407.3/00650.html16:21
Stskeepsouch :)16:21
Uninstallthey are already planing gcc 5 after 4.9 by the way16:22
Uninstallby the way I don't see any reason to switch to newer versions: gcc 4.8 already supports C++11 and aarch64 with all linaro backports16:23
Stskeepsnod16:23
Uninstallhave you got any plan for it and for eglibc 1.19 for sailfishos?16:24
Stskeepsnot currently but finally getting down to that kind of stuff again..16:25
Stskeepsa nice amount of CVEs..16:25
Uninstallit has been quite tested and it looks stable, and since we've update it we have less failing Qt autotests16:25
UninstallI see16:25
* Stskeeps has to go to his hotel, bbl16:26
Uninstallsee you16:27
Uninstalljust one last thing16:27
Uninstallhttps://git.merproject.org/mer-core/qemu-usermode/merge_requests/116:27
Uninstallqemu MR would love to be merged too16:27
Uninstallit's quite stable too16:27
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Stskeepsok, i'll be happy to do so when home from thursday morning :P16:27
Stskeepsas i can concentrate16:27
Uninstallanyway I'm going to improve it again soon with a patch from openSUSE for boehm-gc support16:27
Uninstallsure16:28
Uninstallsee you later :)16:28
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