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| sledges | PSA: SailfishOSS @ #mer-meeting , ongoing | 10:16 |
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| guanche | hi | 11:23 |
| guanche | guys can I ask you something? I've owned a smartphone, and I'm thinking on buying this one: | 11:24 |
| guanche | http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_xperia_mini_pro-3713.php | 11:24 |
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| guanche | but it's locked with yoigo, I wanted to ask, if I root this phone (sony provides onlock codes for the bootloader) and flash it with a stock rom, then the phone will be free? | 11:25 |
| guanche | the thing is that I can buy this mobile for 30 euros, but if I still have to pay another ~30 to unlock it, I don't see the point on buying it | 11:26 |
| guanche | as there are better offers on the second hand market in terms price/quality | 11:26 |
| guanche | sorry, the first comment should read "I've never owned a smartphone" | 11:26 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: hello | 16:01 |
| Stskeeps | m00 | 16:01 |
| Uninstall | :D | 16:02 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: https://gcc.gnu.org/install/prerequisites.html | 16:03 |
| Stskeeps | what does fedora use / ubuntu? | 16:03 |
| Uninstall | according to this page, gcc graphite requires cloog-isl 0.18 | 16:03 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: did you already the backlog about that topic? | 16:03 |
| Stskeeps | not 100% no :P | 16:03 |
| Stskeeps | been a busy week | 16:03 |
| Uninstall | ok, I will write it again briefly | 16:04 |
| Uninstall | we are building cloog-ppl 0.15 | 16:04 |
| Uninstall | according to that page gcc requires isl version, version 0.18.1 at least | 16:04 |
| Uninstall | so there are 2 possible approaches to that | 16:04 |
| Uninstall | fedora is building cloog and isl inside gcc | 16:05 |
| Uninstall | and they ship for some kind of reason cloog-ppl 0.15 as a separated package | 16:05 |
| Uninstall | I don't see any single reference to cloog-isl around | 16:05 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:05 |
| Uninstall | it seems that ubuntu is shipping cloog-isl 0.18.2 | 16:05 |
| Stskeeps | i wouldn't mind if we can get rid of that dependency | 16:06 |
| Uninstall | so I think they are building gcc against system one | 16:06 |
| Uninstall | plus our gcc spec is quite odd | 16:06 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/gcc/blob/master/gcc.spec | 16:07 |
| Uninstall | we are doing things like that: %ifnarch mips mipsel | 16:07 |
| Uninstall | %global build_cloog 1 | 16:07 |
| Uninstall | %else | 16:07 |
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| Uninstall | and we are using that variable just to decide if a patch has to be applied or not | 16:08 |
| Uninstall | but we are not building it | 16:08 |
| Uninstall | I think that is a Fedora leftover | 16:08 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: so what's going to be our plan on that topic? | 16:09 |
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| Uninstall | in the meantime we are using cloog-ppl with gcc 4.8 and it looks like graphite is being built anyway | 16:10 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:11 |
| Stskeeps | well, best practices from ubuntu/linaro is what we usually follow | 16:11 |
| Uninstall | (I'm not sure if gcc has some sanity checks about that, but I would switch to something officialy supported) | 16:11 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: so we should update cloog to isl version and use it as an external dependency, right? | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | makes sense | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | i would kind of prefer internal dependency though, as nothing else uses it | 16:13 |
| Stskeeps | and the cloog dependency is a PITA | 16:13 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: I have no preferences, I just exponsed you the 2 different possibilities | 16:14 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 16:14 |
| Uninstall | I'm not aware of any other package using it | 16:14 |
| Uninstall | if we are going to do this probably it will be possible to nuke cloog and probably ppl too | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | it might be good to do :P | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | they're always troublesome | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | upgrade -> boom | 16:15 |
| Uninstall | we just have to add to git repo cloog and isl libraries | 16:15 |
| Uninstall | it would probably reduce the number of build cycles | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 16:16 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: ok, the plain is that I get in sync with fedora spec for that too | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 16:17 |
| Uninstall | (I really don't know why we have that leftovers) | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | history.. | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:17 |
| Uninstall | I see | 16:18 |
| Uninstall | then later I will also take care to update gcc to the latest maintenance version | 16:18 |
| Uninstall | gcc 4.8 is now under maintenance by linaro, they are already doing bugfixing releases | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 16:19 |
| Uninstall | they are releasing it as gcc 4.8.4 (that officialy doesn't exist, last version is gcc 4.8.3, but it should be fine) | 16:19 |
| Uninstall | I'm not going to propose to switch to gcc 4.9 for several reasons, including that has been explained by linus | 16:20 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: if you missed that: http://lkml.iu.edu//hypermail/linux/kernel/1407.3/00650.html | 16:21 |
| Stskeeps | ouch :) | 16:21 |
| Uninstall | they are already planing gcc 5 after 4.9 by the way | 16:22 |
| Uninstall | by the way I don't see any reason to switch to newer versions: gcc 4.8 already supports C++11 and aarch64 with all linaro backports | 16:23 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 16:23 |
| Uninstall | have you got any plan for it and for eglibc 1.19 for sailfishos? | 16:24 |
| Stskeeps | not currently but finally getting down to that kind of stuff again.. | 16:25 |
| Stskeeps | a nice amount of CVEs.. | 16:25 |
| Uninstall | it has been quite tested and it looks stable, and since we've update it we have less failing Qt autotests | 16:25 |
| Uninstall | I see | 16:25 |
| * Stskeeps has to go to his hotel, bbl | 16:26 | |
| Uninstall | see you | 16:27 |
| Uninstall | just one last thing | 16:27 |
| Uninstall | https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/qemu-usermode/merge_requests/1 | 16:27 |
| Uninstall | qemu MR would love to be merged too | 16:27 |
| Uninstall | it's quite stable too | 16:27 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, i'll be happy to do so when home from thursday morning :P | 16:27 |
| Stskeeps | as i can concentrate | 16:27 |
| Uninstall | anyway I'm going to improve it again soon with a patch from openSUSE for boehm-gc support | 16:27 |
| Uninstall | sure | 16:28 |
| Uninstall | see you later :) | 16:28 |
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