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| tigeli | Uninstall: https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/libtiff/merge_requests/1 could you fix the mr :) | 08:34 |
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| tigeli | Stskeeps: kaltsi confirmed that the patched file works ok, can you merge https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/file/merge_requests/2 | 08:40 |
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| rodrigosolari | hola!!! | 09:22 |
| rodrigosolari | alguien que hable español | 09:22 |
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| lbt | hola - no ... I think :) | 09:42 |
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| lbt | PSA gitlab seems to have a problem with MRs - looking into root cause | 09:42 |
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| rodrigosolari | hey | 09:43 |
| rodrigosolari | spanish please? | 09:43 |
| rodrigosolari | online? | 09:45 |
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| sledges | english-only channel | 09:47 |
| rodrigosolari | ok | 09:51 |
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| rodrigosolari | as I can compile a mer core phone, it set then ingeneria study of software ... but not how to start an operating system | 09:53 |
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| Uninstall | tigeli: fixed | 11:43 |
| Uninstall | it was already ready for push on my git repo | 11:43 |
| Uninstall | check libtiff again | 11:43 |
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| tigeli | Uninstall: ok.. will | 11:50 |
| tigeli | Uninstall: also json-c breaks pulseaudio | 11:50 |
| tigeli | Uninstall: or the MR | 11:51 |
| lbt | fyi I found the root cause of the MR issue | 11:52 |
| tigeli | Uninstall: you may want to remove libtiff-CVE-2013-4234.patch and libtiff-CVE-2013-4233.patch :) | 11:52 |
| lbt | will see how to fix ASAP | 11:52 |
| tigeli | lbt: great :) | 11:52 |
| Uninstall | tigeli: I'll send you a new MR for pulseaudio | 11:53 |
| lbt | hooks run system ruby, not gitlab specific one | 11:53 |
| Uninstall | tigeli: I know that problem, we just had to change pkgconfig for it | 11:53 |
| tigeli | Uninstall: ok :) | 11:53 |
| Uninstall | tigeli: sure, I will improve it right now | 11:53 |
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| tigeli | Uninstall: ah.. it's json-c nowadays :D | 12:04 |
| tigeli | grr | 12:04 |
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| Uninstall | tigeli: exactly | 12:22 |
| Uninstall | tigeli: I've tested the json-c change against pulseaudio 5 | 12:25 |
| Uninstall | I see that Mer is running with pulseaudio 2.1, is it correct? | 12:25 |
| tigeli | Uninstall: it seems so, jolla is using 5 | 12:25 |
| Uninstall | what about updating pulseaudio in Mer too? | 12:26 |
| tigeli | but I believe it's only build problem | 12:26 |
| tigeli | Uninstall: maybe it should be done ;) | 12:26 |
| tigeli | Uninstall: did you remove those extra patch-files from libtiff yet? | 12:26 |
| Uninstall | wait a second | 12:26 |
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| Uninstall | tigeli: I've removed extra patches | 12:35 |
| tigeli | Uninstall: thanks :) will retest it :) | 12:36 |
| Uninstall | tigeli: did you had to fix any of my MR? | 12:38 |
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| tigeli | Uninstall: nope, not yet at least ;) | 13:19 |
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| tigeli | Stskeeps: please merge: https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/json-c/merge_requests/1, https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/file/merge_requests/2, https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/nss/merge_requests/1, https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/libtiff/merge_requests/1 | 13:29 |
| tigeli | Stskeeps: kaltsi tested the file, it works | 13:29 |
| Stskeeps | hang on, wrapping up something else.. | 13:29 |
| tigeli | Stskeeps: np.. | 13:29 |
| tigeli | Stskeeps: I will head to pick up my motorbike from the maintenance | 13:30 |
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| gryffus | Hi, my X Server 1.13.0 crashes when i run "Marble" application. It's on kernel 3.6.11, i586. gdb: http://pastebin.com/CEhKWxN2 . Should i report it as a bug? | 14:01 |
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| SK_work | gryffus: wrong window ? | 14:03 |
| gryffus | SK_work: no... Or you think that i should report it against Xorg itself? | 14:03 |
| SK_work | gryffus: well, Mer don't use X so ... | 14:04 |
| SK_work | well, it has been a long time since most mer users went to wayland | 14:04 |
| gryffus | SK_work: I'm using plasma active which afaik uses it... And it's based on mer... | 14:05 |
| SK_work | ha | 14:05 |
| SK_work | hum ... | 14:05 |
| SK_work | I would recommand you to either go to #plasma-active or to wait for their kf5 based plasma active | 14:05 |
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| gryffus | my repositories: http://pastebin.com/wXp7SySh | 14:06 |
| SK_work | as they are likely going to either change basis (not Mer anymore), or use wayland | 14:06 |
| gryffus | Xorg is from mer repo | 14:06 |
| gryffus | Ok, thanks for clarification | 14:08 |
| SK_work | gryffus: I would say that it is might not be maintained at the moment | 14:08 |
| SK_work | and KDE people are not pushing the active direction (IIRC) since they are busy migrating to kf5 | 14:09 |
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| gryffus | SK_work: well, KDE packages in devel are from git, so they should be up-to-date. Question is if they support wayland. Maybe i should only port init scripts to run KDE under wayland... | 14:17 |
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| SK_work | gryffus: I think you could ask on #plasma-active | 14:21 |
| SK_work | but for KDE4 based applications (aka Qt 4), don't expect wayland | 14:22 |
| gryffus | SK_work: Hmm, so my best chance would be upgraded xserver in my home repo@ build.merproject.org | 14:26 |
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| SK_work | gryffus: indeed | 14:35 |
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| gryffus | i got another strange problem: "error: Package already exists: %package debugsource" , but i haven't %debug_package anywhere in my .spec file. The package is: https://build.merproject.org/package/show/home:gryffus/speech-dispatcher . Any clues? | 14:45 |
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| SK_work | gryffus: isn't debugsource autogenerated ? | 15:01 |
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| Uninstall | lbt: hello | 17:14 |
| Uninstall | lbt: I need some help: my OBS database is too huge | 17:14 |
| Uninstall | have you got any idea about that? | 17:14 |
| lbt | ? | 17:14 |
| lbt | mysql taking up too much space in /var ? | 17:14 |
| Uninstall | lbt: 9 GiB | 17:14 |
| Uninstall | almost 10 GiB | 17:14 |
| lbt | yep ... | 17:15 |
| Uninstall | is it ok? | 17:15 |
| lbt | well | 17:15 |
| Uninstall | are you aware of any huge table with logs or stuff like that | 17:15 |
| Uninstall | which I can safely purge? | 17:15 |
| lbt | it doesn't need to be that big and innodb can be tuned to stay smaller | 17:16 |
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| lbt | ah yes | 17:16 |
| lbt | I think you want innodb_file_per_table | 17:16 |
| Uninstall | how can I tell inodb to squeeze a bit? | 17:17 |
| lbt | what you need to do is tune the mysql settings | 17:17 |
| lbt | then, stop obs | 17:17 |
| lbt | dump db, drop db, restore db | 17:17 |
| lbt | I've done it on a few machines now | 17:18 |
| lbt | but not enough that I've documented it :/ | 17:18 |
| lbt | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/914658/mysql-how-to-free-space-innodb | 17:18 |
| lbt | http://dba.stackexchange.com/questions/39125/ibdata1-grows-exponentially-when-innodb-file-per-table-is-configured | 17:19 |
| Uninstall | awesome | 17:19 |
| lbt | http://serverfault.com/questions/409630/reclaim-disk-space-after-deleting-magento-mysql-database/409744#409744 | 17:19 |
| lbt | I think the last one is pretty good | 17:20 |
| lbt | innodb_log_file_size | 17:20 |
| Uninstall | what about innodb_file_per_table performances? | 17:20 |
| lbt | do you have a perf issue? | 17:20 |
| lbt | in general ... throw RAM at it | 17:20 |
| lbt | by keeping theses tables sanely sized they stay in cache/ram much more easily | 17:21 |
| Uninstall | lbt: I can grow the virtual machine as much as I like | 17:21 |
| Uninstall | the main problem is that I have to rearrange disks and that might require some time | 17:21 |
| lbt | shrinking the innodb will really help | 17:21 |
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| Uninstall | and I would prefer instead invest some time to update OBS version and make a new and better machine | 17:22 |
| tigeli | Uninstall: get a storage applience ;) | 17:22 |
| lbt | bwahahahahaaa | 17:22 |
| tigeli | i wish i had one :D | 17:22 |
| * lbt has one .. | 17:23 | |
| lbt | /dev/sda | 17:23 |
| tigeli | hehe | 17:23 |
| Uninstall | I have no physical limits, the old machine has been created too small and difficult to scale up | 17:23 |
| tigeli | i used to administrate 4 netapp clusters | 17:23 |
| lbt | Uninstall: fwiw I run all OBS stuff on hetzner hosts and put LVM under it | 17:23 |
| lbt | but I have no budget | 17:24 |
| lbt | tigeli: we're using kyfc for resilience .. working quite well | 17:24 |
| Uninstall | we are doing pretty the same thing | 17:24 |
| tigeli | lbt: well yeah.. I do not think it would be wise to but few millions of euros to storage :) | 17:25 |
| lbt | Uninstall: each of our workers comes with a chunk of disk so I backup to multiple unused RAIDs | 17:25 |
| tigeli | unless you are running thousands.of instances and need to get then replicated/mirrored on other side of the.globe | 17:26 |
| lbt | yep | 17:26 |
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| Uninstall | by the way are you aware of any OBS check tool in case of any DB inconsitency? | 17:28 |
| lbt | obs_admin | 17:28 |
| lbt | but ... no | 17:28 |
| Uninstall | and what about scheduler incosistences? we had few times some packages stuck as scheduled | 17:32 |
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| Uninstall | lbt: are you already using latest obs version for your private sailfish OBS? | 17:47 |
| Uninstall | is it production ready? | 17:47 |
| lbt | Uninstall: Mer OBS is latest :) | 17:48 |
| lbt | we're actually not using it in jolla yet | 17:48 |
| lbt | I have a few minor things to test out still (not sure about boss notifications) | 17:49 |
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| Uninstall | do you think to deploy it in less than 2 months? | 17:50 |
| lbt | I'd say it's damned close - I just need to reintigrate some patches | 17:50 |
| lbt | yes | 17:50 |
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| javispedro | hmhm | 18:04 |
| javispedro | is X11 mer still usable then? :) | 18:04 |
| w00t | javispedro: with enough ducttape, anything is possible .. whether it's easy or a good idea is another matter ;) | 18:06 |
| javispedro | oh well. | 18:07 |
| Uninstall | lbt: ping me when some updated RPMs will be available | 18:09 |
| Uninstall | I would be happy to update it too | 18:09 |
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| lbt | Uninstall: OK - I'll try to remember :) | 18:09 |
| Uninstall | thank you | 18:10 |
| Uninstall | ... and one last thing that I would really appreciate: aarch64 RPMs ;) | 18:10 |
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| javispedro | samsung actually has released binary wayland drivers for exynos/mali.. | 18:12 |
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| Uninstall | javispedro: is it something completely new? | 18:15 |
| javispedro | no, they're from july'14 | 18:15 |
| javispedro | basically they ship libEGL+libGLESv2, libwayland-drm, libwayland-egl, and a bunch other deps | 18:16 |
| Stskeeps | good | 18:17 |
| javispedro | I ponder how "flexible" the ABI between wayland and libwayland-{egl,drm} is. | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | it sounds enough to run a sailfish stack.. | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:17 |
| javispedro | but I have no source for any of the libwayland-* stuff. | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | should be known abi | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | libwayland-egl is a very easy api | 18:18 |
| javispedro | sad: softfp. | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | ah. | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:19 |
| Stskeeps | i forgot softfp existed. | 18:19 |
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| javispedro | I think I will never forget now =) | 18:21 |
| Uninstall | why on earth people is still using softfp on new hardware and on new software platforms? | 18:26 |
| armax00 | guys, question: I would like to help the project.. but I do not know where to start | 18:26 |
| armax00 | do you have an entry-level bug to point me to? | 18:26 |
| Stskeeps | Uninstall: meet samsung | 18:27 |
| Uninstall | ehehe | 18:27 |
| Uninstall | armax00: how would you like to help this project? | 18:28 |
| armax00 | development mostly | 18:29 |
| armax00 | I am looking to start doing development at os level, especially kernel level | 18:29 |
| armax00 | (I am about to start my thesis on kernel memory management) | 18:29 |
| armax00 | I do not have experience with that, but I would like to start build one | 18:30 |
| armax00 | doing it starting with no objectives has always been a failure | 18:30 |
| armax00 | I was looking into doing something with a goal, hence thinking helping a OSS project | 18:31 |
| Uninstall | armax00: probably you are not on the best place here | 18:31 |
| Uninstall | Mer is meant to run on a linux kernel | 18:31 |
| Uninstall | and we are not going to replace linux kernel with something different | 18:31 |
| Uninstall | armax00: there are several opensource projects where someone who wants to hack a kernel is needed :) but it is quite offtopic here | 18:32 |
| Uninstall | armax00: query me if you wish ;) | 18:32 |
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| javispedro | Stskeeps: how much would the Sailfish stack help me though, if nothing will fit in the 320x320 screen? :) | 18:33 |
| javispedro | was thinking that maybe a softfp Mer image... | 18:33 |
| javispedro | i am quickly getting tired of tizen | 18:33 |
| armax00 | Uninstall: thanks, I'll pvt you then :) | 18:34 |
| Uninstall | javispedro: Mer has support for softfp, you should just use armv7l or armv6l repos | 18:34 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: makes sense | 18:35 |
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| javispedro | I got heimdall (OSS samsung flasher) to work so I feel more confident about reflashing it. | 18:35 |
| Stskeeps | aren't they lodin devices? | 18:36 |
| javispedro | seemingly not... (lthor | 18:36 |
| javispedro | ) | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | ok, .. :P | 18:36 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: do you mind if query for just one question? | 18:38 |
| Uninstall | *query you | 18:38 |
| Stskeeps | Uninstall: sure, just watching a documentary atm | 18:39 |
| javispedro | I suppose it would be pointless to mention the latest Mer release in http://releases.merproject.org/releases/ is 20130801 ... ? | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, ermm :P | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | many people use the binaries | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | er, sources | 18:42 |
| javispedro | somehow I feel that whatever way I choose, a world of hurt awaits me =) | 18:44 |
| Stskeeps | welcome to embedded development | 18:44 |
| javispedro | I will try to follow a bit with this at least, so pardon my totally newbie questions.... | 18:52 |
| javispedro | I assume the idea is to use MIC to create a image file for my platform, which needs a kickstarter file which tells it about the required packages and some scripts | 18:52 |
| javispedro | I can find some examples of .ks files in mer-kickstarter-configs packages | 18:53 |
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| javispedro | unfortunately they seem to point to releases.mer... so I would get outdated packages (no Qt5 even) | 18:53 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps just steal some of the hadk ones? | 18:54 |
| javispedro | but maybe I could, after a lot of prayers to various gods, change the .yaml file that generates the .ks file to point to, say, the obs mer-core:armv7l:testing repo.. | 18:54 |
| javispedro | and also I see the .yaml files, even in the mer-ks-configs package from mer-core:armv7l:testing, contain references to Xorg but none to wayland.. | 18:55 |
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| javispedro | ie mer-core-armv7l-xorg-basic-qmlviewer | 18:56 |
| Stskeeps | it's been a .. tad neglected | 18:56 |
| * javispedro goes download HADK | 18:56 | |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: btw, I don't remember how did you solve softfp-hardfp problem in libhybris, doesn't android mostly use softfp these days? | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | well. | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 19:03 |
| Stskeeps | and i think it was canonical solving it, possibly | 19:04 |
| Stskeeps | https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris/blob/master/hybris/include/hybris/internal/floating_point_abi.h | 19:04 |
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| javispedro | interesting | 19:06 |
| javispedro | only libGLESv2 would require wrapping... | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 19:07 |
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