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| jusa_ | hm. seems a page from mer wiki has disappeared.. | 08:44 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm? | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | which one? | 08:44 |
| jusa_ | there used to be a page about MainVolume, my web browser history says it was in PulseAudio/MainVolume, Audio page shows the link as being Nemo/Audio/MainVolume, but neither exists | 08:45 |
| jusa_ | it wasn't a lot of text, can re-write it, but I just was surprised to see it gone | 08:46 |
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| Stskeeps | hmmm | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | that's odd | 08:47 |
| lbt | yeah | 08:47 |
| * lbt will check DB and such | 08:47 | |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Audio#Mainvolume ? | 08:50 |
| jusa_ | maybe I remember wrong, but I'm sure I've written a page about that (dbus interface) *somewhere* :D | 08:51 |
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| lbt | there's a dead link in that para | 08:56 |
| jusa_ | yep | 08:56 |
| jusa_ | soon that's not dead link | 08:57 |
| lbt | ok - I'm just checking the DB so hold off for a minute before saving it | 08:57 |
| lbt | jusa_: nothing ... | 09:02 |
| lbt | save it and we'll keep an eye open | 09:03 |
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| jusa_ | yep. saved | 09:23 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: i'm kinda thinking it doesn't make much sense to make a release; there's a new gcc/glib2/toolchain in there and it's just going to make people's situation worse than before | 09:30 |
| Stskeeps | by how it usually goes with new toolchains | 09:31 |
| lbt | fair enough - the idea was simply to snapshot the latest state | 09:31 |
| lbt | would a pre-release make sense? | 09:31 |
| lbt | or even a snapshot | 09:31 |
| lbt | I agree a full release is not sensible | 09:32 |
| Stskeeps | i'll probably do a checkout and clone of the repos at least | 09:32 |
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| Stskeeps | so we can restore in case anything goes wrong | 09:33 |
| lbt | *nod* | 09:33 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: so, looking at merge stuff.. how do we reliably kill history of a repo? delete the repo, re-create it, push new contents? | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | in gitlab | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | or is that a PITA in our current setup | 09:59 |
| lbt | eg ? | 09:59 |
| lbt | a pkg | 09:59 |
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| Stskeeps | let's say we want to ditch the history of qtbase and replace it with the github.com/mer-qt/qtbase bits | 10:00 |
| Stskeeps | i'm kinda pondering if we should just make a new mer/ tree and put everything under same project | 10:00 |
| lbt | so ... 99% sure you would just git clone the github | 10:01 |
| lbt | remote add gitlab | 10:01 |
| lbt | force push | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 10:01 |
| lbt | force remove any old stuff | 10:01 |
| lbt | git gc on gitlab | 10:01 |
| lbt | the last bit may need to be manual | 10:01 |
| lbt | an alternative is rm the repo but then you'd lose any users | 10:02 |
| lbt | today that's not a problem afair | 10:02 |
| lbt | mer-core group management anyhow | 10:03 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, so here's a thought.. instead of starting to tinker too much with mer-core/ and loose history etc, we switch to putting all packages into mer/ or core/; first the ones we need to merge, then add the old ones in same tree.. from mer-core:devel pov it's a matter of sed'ing _service files | 10:03 |
| Bostik | you want to purge history when moving repo? why not just import an git-archive result as a new repo? | 10:03 |
| lbt | Bostik: because history includes blobby tarballs | 10:03 |
| lbt | I was planning on converting history using pristine tar | 10:04 |
| Bostik | lbt: okay, the other option is a forced squash until beginning of (repo) time | 10:04 |
| lbt | still tarballs | 10:04 |
| lbt | it's ugly :) | 10:04 |
| Bostik | I agree | 10:04 |
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| Bostik | I'd go with git-archive HEAD ... git init + git push neworigin | 10:05 |
| * lbt looks at git archive | 10:06 | |
| Bostik | lbt: it's like "tarball from given gitref" | 10:06 |
| lbt | d'oh | 10:06 |
| bencoh | but with no history | 10:06 |
| Bostik | hell, the autobuilders use that to generate tarballs from repos for packaging runs :) | 10:06 |
| bencoh | so meh | 10:06 |
| * lbt knows it well but was looking for git hide-it-away | 10:07 | |
| lbt | gerrit has an attic | 10:07 |
| lbt | and I was thinking about that | 10:07 |
| Bostik | oh, like in the times of svn you'd have to use svn-dumpfilter to get rid of awful crud | 10:07 |
| lbt | sounds like it | 10:07 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: to tweak your idea ... how about cloning to mer-attic and slowly purging mer-core? | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | elaborate? | 10:10 |
| lbt | essentially snapshot mer-core -> mer-attic and freeze it. Then we just work in mer-core as we update packages (either new versions or reformat) | 10:11 |
| lbt | no need for new _service files | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | true | 10:12 |
| lbt | I kinda like mer-core | 10:12 |
| lbt | as a name | 10:12 |
| lbt | mer-tools etc | 10:12 |
| lbt | and mer-??? in the future | 10:12 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | can you do the cloning? sounds good to me | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | er, snapshotting | 10:13 |
| lbt | yep | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 10:13 |
| Stskeeps | we prolly need to grab a copy of the mer-core:*:* binary repos, and then all should be good.. | 10:14 |
| lbt | did you just move to obs-land? | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 10:14 |
| Stskeeps | sorry :) | 10:14 |
| lbt | np ... just checking | 10:15 |
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| lbt | did I mention ... adrian wants us to update to latest 2.5.4 OBS for the bandwidth thing | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | we're on 2.4 atm? | 10:15 |
| lbt | 2.5 | 10:15 |
| Stskeeps | oh, ok | 10:15 |
| lbt | 2.5.git | 10:15 |
| lbt | ol rebased to a point and head moved on | 10:16 |
| * lbt ponders | 10:16 | |
| lbt | so ... what I'm thinking is that gitlab has a DB of all repos and also processes them during upgrades and such | 10:17 |
| lbt | mer-attic would double the git repo size for no good reason ... maybe simple gitweb | 10:18 |
| lbt | so mer-attic isn't in gitlab (which makes sense as we don't really want clones/PRs) | 10:18 |
| lbt | but is public on a gitweb as it should be | 10:18 |
| Stskeeps | well, mer-attic might still be wanted for others | 10:18 |
| lbt | eg? | 10:19 |
| Stskeeps | well, using a older sha, perhaps | 10:19 |
| lbt | OK - but what's wrong with mer-attic being non-gitlab managed git repo with no remote push | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | i'm fine with that too | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | cloneable is what i'm aiming for | 10:20 |
| lbt | keeps my monthly updates quicker and makes db-fsck easier | 10:20 |
| lbt | nb ... gitlab update due yesterday (release+3 days) | 10:20 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 10:21 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: _service files sorted | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | as in, backed up | 10:36 |
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| Stskeeps | moo javispedro | 10:47 |
| javispedro | moo | 10:47 |
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| Uninstall_ | plfiorini: hello | 12:18 |
| plfiorini | hi Uninstall_ | 12:19 |
| plfiorini | Uninstall_: how are you? | 12:19 |
| Uninstall_ | fine, thanks | 12:19 |
| Uninstall_ | doing some updates to some packages | 12:19 |
| Uninstall_ | plfiorini: do you remember why you forked db4 on git.merproject.org? | 12:19 |
| plfiorini | Uninstall_: to install the library on /usr/lib rather than /lib, not sure that's the right call i was studying how to get UsrMerge | 12:20 |
| Uninstall_ | ok | 12:21 |
| Uninstall_ | cool | 12:21 |
| plfiorini | probably updating rpm and filesystem would be enough | 12:21 |
| Uninstall_ | I was trying to understand if you needed an upgraded version for some reason | 12:22 |
| plfiorini | nope but i need the updated automake to build coreutils 8.2x | 12:22 |
| plfiorini | which is needed by systemd 214 | 12:22 |
| plfiorini | btw we might not be able to import coreutils 8.2 as it's gpl3, so probably mer have to backport ln --relative or maintain a workaround to build the newer systemd | 12:23 |
| Stskeeps | why on earth does it need a new coreutils? :P | 12:24 |
| Uninstall_ | plfiorini: yes, right | 12:24 |
| Uninstall_ | Stskeeps: to support all the new rm and yes features | 12:24 |
| Stskeeps | for build, or runtime | 12:25 |
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| plfiorini | i think i've seen a configure check for ln --relative but i didn't care too much as coreutils 8.2 makes sense for maui | 12:25 |
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| plfiorini | so it's better if you check | 12:26 |
| Uninstall_ | I was hilarious about rm and yes features ;) | 12:26 |
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| plfiorini | Uninstall_: i wasn't http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/configure.ac#n77 | 12:27 |
| Uninstall_ | (lunch time, I'll be back soon) | 12:27 |
| Stskeeps | http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/buildroot/2014-April/093576.html | 12:27 |
| plfiorini | that was used by some Makefile so i guess that's just a build dependency | 12:27 |
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| Uninstall_ | Stskeeps: do you have anything against about moving manpages out of core packages? | 14:09 |
| Uninstall_ | we are installing man pages on target systems... | 14:09 |
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| Stskeeps | i do | 20:25 |
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