Saturday, 2014-04-26

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tbrcommercial, meh06:49
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sledgeswell didnt we talk about more transparent nemo/mer progress?08:07
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tbrthat was bit more of a comment regarding if I would consider using it08:28
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tbrif mer/nemo want to, I won't oppose it08:28
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Stskeepsyeah, the commercial part worrie me08:33
Stskeepsmore wondering if there's good dashboard solutions for oss08:33
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tbrStskeeps: not what you are looking for, but I'm very happy with a _small_ taskboard plugin that some nokians wrote for trac. Also use it at work for some projects as we use trac there anyway09:03
Stskeepsit was this kanban like thing?09:03
tbrthey moved to github, let me look09:03
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mike7b4_on_x230hi, continue to try get bbb kernel up but stuck in "Enable 16-bit UID system calls (UID16) [Y/n/?] (NEW) aborted!" cant see any references to this in the .config kernel used. any ideas?11:15
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Stskeepslbt_away: if a diff is too big in gitlab, it refuses to show it, alltogether13:46
Stskeepsno 'look at curl.spec' only13:46
tbrthat might be tuneable13:49
Stskeepsyeah, just noting issues as i go along on standard operations13:50
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tbrsure :)13:55
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Stskeepstbr: can merbot take notifications?14:02
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tbrStskeeps: yes, it has a plugin for that already for use with BOSS14:08
tbrStskeeps: what are you exactly looking for? (It's a plain supybot, if you prefer to look around yourself)14:09
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Stskeepstbr: just way to send random messages such as open pull requests etc14:28
Stskeepsthis place is a bit desolate otherwise :P14:28
tbrStskeeps: yeah, sure, guessed as much. Just not sure how that would work, but as gitlab is probably just another VM like for merbot it should be able to reach the bot14:29
tbrso merbot listens on port 505014:32
tbrTo send a message, use:14:32
tbrecho '#channel message' | nc -w 1 host port14:32
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Stskeepsthat sounds easy14:44
tbrand if someone spends some time screwing with the bugs plugin, you could also look up stuff on gitlab14:50
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tbralso looks like we're only two commits behind on the bug tracker. both not relevant.15:07
tbrnotify plugin is up to date15:09
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vgradeStskeeps: \o15:19
Stskeepsvgrade: did you ever play much with the kobo?15:29
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vgradeStskeeps: current state is on the wiki, was blocked by the weird split framebuffer issue15:32
tbrkobo was that reader?15:33
vgradeeink yes15:34
vgradethey were moving to new versions so this was very cheap at the time15:34
tbrnice. I'm still pondering one15:34
vgradeimx SoC15:35
tbralthough I have a Nexus7-2013 and could probably just use that15:35
tbr(and run fbreader under sailfish, obviously)15:35
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vgradetbr: this one was very light compared to other tablets I've held15:36
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tbrgood point, for reading something light is better15:36
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Stskeepsvgrade: how was battery life on it's normal firmware? in typical reading usage15:40
vgradeStskeeps: I don't think I ever read long enough15:41
RaYmAnThey claim over a month15:41
tbrshould be mostly limited by page turns and standby draw15:41
RaYmAnI've never left it non-charged for long enough to find out15:41
tbrI was pondering some cheap e-readers with wifi, maybe second hand and then use them as remote updateable displays15:43
tbrjust wake up every n minutes, poll, sleep15:43
vgradeseems wifi is the drain15:43
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tbryeah, if you need fast updates it would kill you15:44
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RaYmAnthe kobo one is nice for dev in that it uses a microsd card internally for OS - meaning if you make a backup you can always recover15:45
RaYmAn(it's fairly easy to take apart)15:45
tbroh, nice15:45
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Stskeepstbr: i spotted this yesterday..15:46
Stskeepskinda cool concept15:47
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RaYmAnunfortunately it's mostly just an electronic etch-a-sketch15:48
RaYmAne.g. you can't actually save what you draw, nor can it display other stuff :/15:48
Stskeepsthat one you can sync with15:48
Stskeepspretty new from them15:48
RaYmAnwell that's more interesting then :)15:48
tbrStskeeps: that's actually quite cool15:55
fk_lxwhat it's running?15:56
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Stskeepstbr: yeah, i'm considering to get one .. i used to do this with xournal on n800 integrating into onenote15:58
Stskeepsfk_lx: probably some RTOS15:58
tbronenote *shiver*16:00
fk_lx<joke mode> well I do recall sth simpler that was for kids with some foil - you could write a then erase, much cheaper thing ;)</joke mode>16:00
tbryes, etch-a-sketch16:00
tbrhe even mentions it in the video16:00
Stskeepstbr: i've yet to find a good onenote replacement that isn't cloud-y16:00
tbrbut yeah, that boogie thing, but with syncing would be awesome16:01
fk_lxonenote, isn't it Microsoft Office app?16:01
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fk_lxnever had a chance to use it16:02
tbrI suspect it's not even running anything (the thin in the video). It's probably just an MCU that does housekeeping, like the reset voltage cycle on the panel16:02
fk_lxtbr: could be16:02
tbrha, it's an MSP43016:03
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tbr - later version which stores notes?16:05
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Stskeepsyeah, i think it's from this year16:07
fk_lxI'm just wondering if it isn't more convenient to just take some Android tablet and have good notes app there, that allows easy syncing etc.16:11
fk_lxand some kind of pen of course16:11
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tbrfk_lx: like a galaxy note or tab?16:14
fk_lxit can be even Nexus 7, whatever16:15
Stskeepsof course, but also significantly higher cost16:15
fk_lxStskeeps: pen and paper has even lower cost16:17
fk_lxStskeeps: and it doesn't need any power to run ;)16:18
fk_lxI'm just wondering how many devices one can carry - smartphone, smartwatch, tablet and laptop for me is the max16:19
fk_lxcarrying dedicated tablet for taking notes? hmm, don't know if it makes sense16:19
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tbr that's the one that syncs over bluetooth16:27
tbrbut the information is a bit thin16:27
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tbralso I'm not sure if I'd really need an input only device like that16:27
fk_lxtbr: I'm waiting for device in consumer market, that will have foldable screen16:29
Stskeepscrazy stuff16:37
Stskeeps(re foldable)16:37
CosmoHillhi stephg16:38
fk_lxStskeeps: interesting16:39
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Stskeepsanybody up for some pair work to do the new 'contributing to mer' wiki page based on gitlab instead of gerrit?17:40
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Stskeeps - wip17:55
Stskeepsi see one interested person.. :P17:58
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tbrStskeeps: huh, no github?18:25
Stskeepslet's pretend that this is for the future18:26
tbrStskeeps: you moving everything there then?18:26
Stskeepsa lot will go there, at least18:26
Stskeepspart of the problem in past was due to gerrit, which meant we put stuff on github18:26
tbrnot criticizing, just already can see the squealing: y u no github!? y I can't pull requestz!?18:26
kimmolitbr has good crystalball ...18:27
tbrbecause I've been there18:28
tbrevery few months some moron comes by and breaks into tears when they find out, that my project is still on svn and he can't just "send me a pull request'18:28
tbrgithub has become a dangerous monopoly18:28
kimmolii did go also to bitbucket18:29
Stskeepspeople still use svn?18:29
phaerongitlab has pull requests18:30
tbrStskeeps: legacy stuff. I want to release the next version before I try to move this to git. problme is, that it uses lots of svn:include and that's a bitch18:30
kimmolii think we have PVCS still up for some projects18:30
tbrphaeron: yes, but people won't get that18:30
phaerontheir problem imho18:30
phaeronif it is documented18:31
tbrphaeron: that's not how contribution psychology works, you lose the turn and move back two squares.18:31
sledgesgithub goes offline when you most need it18:31
sledgesand it started to be a habit..18:31
tbrand just for the record, I don't like the situation either18:32
tbrif this wasn't clear already18:32
phaerontbr: I don't understand what you are saying. project x provides contribution mode y which has this workflow.18:32
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Stskeeps(thanks for the comments on piratepad)19:20
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