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| situ | Any suggestions how to fix http://pastie.org/9074693 ? | 08:52 |
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| Stskeeps | make a bigger partition | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps | 08:53 |
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| situ | Stskeeps: doesn't work | 09:14 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 09:14 |
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| situ | Stskeeps: I was getting this error when I was trying build image on Mer VM (which comes with Sailfish SDK). I don't get this error if I try to create an image through local installation of Mer. | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | i would avoid that | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | ie sailfish sdk for that | 09:52 |
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| lbt | my google-fu is lacking ... I'm looking for a modern set of Qt5 gdb macros like kdesdk/scripts/kde-devel-gdb - anyone have any pointers? | 10:42 |
| lbt | w00t: ^ ? | 10:44 |
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| lbt | http://silmor.de/qtstuff.printqstring.php | 10:52 |
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| situ | lbt: Can you confirm me that https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-hal-device/blame/hybris-10.1/droid-hal-device.inc#L216 is not starting a comment at the end of line ? You have added a /* here. | 11:50 |
| * lbt looks | 11:51 | |
| lbt | :) | 11:52 |
| lbt | that's a shell command operating on all files in the tmp/units/ directory | 11:52 |
| situ | Ok, I just wanted to confirm that this won't begin a comment in .spec file. | 11:53 |
| lbt | no, spec uses # | 11:53 |
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| situ | What is the correct way to debug init relate problems ? My system execs init and I don't know what happens afterwards. | 14:23 |
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| Shingetsu | hello there! anyone alive? | 21:52 |
| lbt | Shingetsu: yes | 21:58 |
| lbt | but that's kinda lucky at this time on a saturday night :) | 21:58 |
| Shingetsu | I'm considering porting SailfishOS to my phone (HTC Incredible S) since no such development has happened yet | 21:58 |
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| Shingetsu | (thanks!) | 21:58 |
| Shingetsu | however | 21:58 |
| Shingetsu | I have no experience working with phones. | 21:58 |
| Shingetsu | The good news is that I'm a *nix and C/C++ specialist | 21:58 |
| Shingetsu | (also in software architecture) | 21:58 |
| Shingetsu | could you point me to resources considering I literally have no idea how phones/their linux mods work? | 21:59 |
| lbt | :) | 21:59 |
| lbt | http://wiki.merproject.org/ | 21:59 |
| lbt | what are you trying to do ? | 22:00 |
| tbr | get cm10.1 working, then wait for the platform adaptation kit | 22:00 |
| Shingetsu | tbr, cm10.1 is long since working (and more) | 22:00 |
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| Shingetsu | the issue is that the device is legacy | 22:00 |
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| Shingetsu | I HIGHLY doubt anyone will even remotely remember it | 22:01 |
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| Shingetsu | lbt, trying to port sailfish (based on mer, they said to come here) to my device, quite simply | 22:01 |
| lbt | yeah - missed that line :) | 22:01 |
| lbt | ok - get the platform SDK setup and working | 22:02 |
| Shingetsu | mer's SDK, right? | 22:02 |
| lbt | correct | 22:02 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK | 22:03 |
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| Shingetsu | lbt, already there c: | 22:03 |
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| lbt | follow that stuff through and then follow on with the SB2 side | 22:05 |
| Shingetsu | mhm | 22:05 |
| Shingetsu | I'll be back in a bit | 22:05 |
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| Shingetsu | lbt, so I have the SDK installed, what should I do in the chroot (which arm version do I zypper?_ | 22:31 |
| Shingetsu | :s/_/) | 22:31 |
| lbt | did you follow on to the SB2 page? | 22:32 |
| Shingetsu | this page, right? | 22:33 |
| Shingetsu | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB2 | 22:33 |
| lbt | y | 22:33 |
| Shingetsu | that requires me to install an SB2 pattern, which arm version should I use? | 22:34 |
| lbt | 7hl | 22:34 |
| Shingetsu | (is it -march 'ed aka incompatible with older?) | 22:34 |
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| lbt | oh yes - depends on your device | 22:35 |
| Shingetsu | Incredible S | 22:35 |
| lbt | sorry - multitasking :) | 22:35 |
| Shingetsu | runs Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon | 22:35 |
| * lbt not a HW encyclopedia guy :) | 22:35 | |
| Shingetsu | so ARMv7 | 22:35 |
| Shingetsu | but not sure which one | 22:36 |
| Shingetsu | 7hl seems to be preinstalled tho | 22:36 |
| lbt | honestly don't know which | 22:36 |
| Shingetsu | mhm | 22:36 |
| lbt | it's fairly simple to swap though | 22:36 |
| Shingetsu | I'll try with the default, I guess | 22:36 |
| Shingetsu | mhm | 22:36 |
| lbt | the main thing is that I don't think SFOS is released in any other flavour | 22:37 |
| lbt | so if it's not 7hl I think you're out of luck for SFOS at the moment | 22:37 |
| lbt | of course Mer will let you build anything else for it :) | 22:38 |
| Shingetsu | mhm | 22:39 |
| Shingetsu | XD | 22:39 |
| Shingetsu | well I'm pretty sure it's compatible with 7hl | 22:39 |
| Shingetsu | it might be legacy, but it is a snapdragon | 22:39 |
| lbt | ok - use that then | 22:39 |
| lbt | yep | 22:40 |
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| Shingetsu | lbt, ok, I have SB2 all set up | 22:57 |
| Shingetsu | (glib-devel was already installed though :O ) | 22:57 |
| lbt | was it now... | 22:59 |
| lbt | annoying - it's a nice example of why you need devel libs in the target | 22:59 |
| lbt | I'm due to review those docs soon though - ty for mentioning that | 22:59 |
| lbt | http://releases.sailfishos.org/sdk/latest/targets/ | 23:00 |
| lbt | has a couple of ths sfos targets .... but then we're moving on to #sailfishos stuff | 23:01 |
| Shingetsu | lbt, the issue is that my device will definitely never become a new target unless someone (e.g.) me does it | 23:01 |
| lbt | sure - we're working on some docs to aid in that | 23:01 |
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| Shingetsu | moreover, from what I saw on their info, | 23:02 |
| Shingetsu | THEIR SDK is there to compile apps _for_ their platform | 23:02 |
| lbt | who's ? | 23:02 |
| lbt | HTC ? | 23:02 |
| Shingetsu | (no, sailfish's) | 23:02 |
| Shingetsu | I highly doubt that SFOS (or even mer) is truly hardware-agnostic | 23:03 |
| lbt | it's not :) | 23:03 |
| Shingetsu | mhm | 23:03 |
| lbt | there has to be a HAL | 23:03 |
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| lbt | and that's based on libhybris | 23:03 |
| Shingetsu | mhm | 23:04 |
| Shingetsu | that makes sence | 23:04 |
| lbt | that in turn uses the CM10.1 (for now) layer | 23:04 |
| Shingetsu | aha | 23:04 |
| lbt | so that gives glibc API to the blob stuff | 23:04 |
| lbt | and then you need to hack around that a little to make it work | 23:05 |
| lbt | often it 'just works' | 23:05 |
| Shingetsu | lbt, I finally found the info, my CPU is a v7 rev 2 (so v7l) | 23:05 |
| lbt | :/ | 23:05 |
| Shingetsu | but it runs CM just fine | 23:05 |
| Shingetsu | I'm currently on CM 11-2014-02-14 | 23:05 |
| lbt | yeah - but there's no 7l build of SFOS | 23:05 |
| Shingetsu | hmm | 23:05 |
| lbt | you could run Nemo | 23:06 |
| Shingetsu | (I heard Nemo is similar, actually) | 23:06 |
| lbt | very much so | 23:06 |
| Shingetsu | mhm | 23:06 |
| lbt | the problem however is that nemo has less of a UI at the moment (but it's 100% open) | 23:06 |
| Shingetsu | oh that's nice | 23:06 |
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| * Shingetsu used to do some contributions to arch and might become a gentoo dev later if she has more free time | 23:07 | |
| lbt | yes - and the closed bits of SFOS are very mainly UI | 23:07 |
| Shingetsu | I'd go for Nemo tbh, but that still leaves the question of porting | 23:07 |
| Shingetsu | my device is _very_ legacy | 23:07 |
| lbt | Mer builds for 7l | 23:07 |
| Shingetsu | lbt, I noticed | 23:08 |
| Shingetsu | :3 | 23:08 |
| lbt | https://build.merproject.org/project/monitor?project=nemo%3Atesting%3Amw | 23:09 |
| Shingetsu | awesome | 23:10 |
| Shingetsu | 7l is fully succeeded | 23:10 |
| lbt | yep - won't be as smooth a ride though | 23:11 |
| Shingetsu | lbt, my device officially supports android 2.2 max | 23:12 |
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| Shingetsu | what is a smooth ride anyway? | 23:12 |
| lbt | you may want to grab a nexus4 to have a supported device to use as a reference | 23:12 |
| Shingetsu | lbt, I'm kinda poor XD | 23:13 |
| lbt | :) | 23:13 |
| lbt | ebay | 23:13 |
| lbt | but yeah | 23:13 |
| Shingetsu | I'm getting a new phone when it's time to switch this one | 23:13 |
| Shingetsu | :P | 23:13 |
| lbt | we should find out what the lowest cost device we (they/sfa) support is | 23:14 |
| lbt | just to have as a data point | 23:14 |
| lbt | where are you based btw ? | 23:14 |
| Shingetsu | Montreal :3 | 23:14 |
| Shingetsu | and I really don't want to go out and get a new phone for this | 23:15 |
| Shingetsu | more of a moral thing | 23:15 |
| lbt | sure - worth mentioning in case you did | 23:15 |
| Shingetsu | when I DO get a new phone, it's because this one is obsolete for me | 23:15 |
| Shingetsu | ^^ np | 23:15 |
| * lbt is working on the nook colour for now | 23:15 | |
| Shingetsu | lbt, funny error: trying to switch over to 7l | 23:15 |
| Shingetsu | and getting a strange error | 23:15 |
| Shingetsu | sudo: effective uid is not 0, is sudo installed setuid root? | 23:16 |
| Shingetsu | now the interesting thing is, sudo works fine out of chroot | 23:16 |
| lbt | so the whole thing should be very isolated | 23:16 |
| Shingetsu | I'll probably just reinstall the sdk | 23:16 |
| lbt | which means removing everything and reinstalling is easy | 23:16 |
| Shingetsu | it's not that hard | 23:16 |
| Shingetsu | lbt, I'll probably just dd the drive | 23:16 |
| lbt | yeah - and when you spot the error you'll remember it | 23:17 |
| lbt | probably chown on the target or something | 23:17 |
| Shingetsu | lbt, I did chown to USER on the target | 23:17 |
| Shingetsu | lel | 23:17 |
| lbt | it's reasonably well documented but it's possible it's out of date or there are errors due to code change | 23:17 |
| lbt | s | 23:17 |
| lbt | so if it persists let me know | 23:18 |
| * Shingetsu initially installed it all in $HOME/Documents/MER | 23:20 | |
| Shingetsu | ok let's not | 23:20 |
| Shingetsu | lol | 23:20 |
| * merlin1991 remembers the docs being a bit missleading about what one can do with paths and what not | 23:22 | |
| lbt | $HOME/mer or /srv/mer are the common ones | 23:22 |
| Shingetsu | lbt, it worked fine | 23:22 |
| Shingetsu | just | 23:22 |
| Shingetsu | eh | 23:22 |
| lbt | I've started to use $MER_ROOT to refer to that base | 23:22 |
| Shingetsu | tired of modding the paths when I ctrl paste | 23:23 |
| Shingetsu | lel | 23:23 |
| lbt | then under /srv/mer you have .... sdks/ targets/ android/ | 23:23 |
| lbt | under sdks/ is the (main) sdk and possibly more (ubuntu for droid building) | 23:24 |
| Shingetsu | >ubuntu | 23:24 |
| lbt | the targets have multiple device targets | 23:24 |
| lbt | and android has various droid tree things | 23:24 |
| lbt | yeah - we use an old ubuntu chroot to build CM | 23:25 |
| lbt | all this, and more, will become clear on next week's episode of ... SOAP^H^H^H^H HADK | 23:25 |
| merlin1991 | err what? | 23:27 |
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| merlin1991 | also fun fact, on my setup I have the /srv/mer ... mer platform sdk, but a sailfish 1.0.4.20 sb2 target in ~/jolla/something | 23:27 |
| lbt | you can do anything ... but you'll have to adjust the docs | 23:28 |
| Shingetsu | mhm | 23:31 |
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| lbt | ok - time to sleep | 23:46 |
| lbt | g'night all | 23:46 |
| merlin1991 | gn lbt | 23:48 |
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