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| rcg | morning | 08:48 |
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| sledges | moin! | 09:28 |
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| rcg | :D | 09:36 |
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| tbr | lbt_ Stskeeps - please check and ack Thilo's picture post on G+ | 10:36 |
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| Stskeeps | tbr: i'm not sure which one you're referring to? | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | there | 10:38 |
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| lbt_ | ? | 10:39 |
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| tbr | lbt: https://plus.google.com/u/1/102813492714620417611/posts/4p8WXD7JZMk | 10:40 |
| Stskeeps | ACK'ed | 10:40 |
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| Stskeeps | that's surprisingily good photo of me | 10:40 |
| tbr | tnx | 10:40 |
| tbr | :) | 10:40 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: we're starting to look old. | 10:41 |
| lbt | *sigh* I think I should attribute it to "Mer grey" | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | now vs https://plus.google.com/photos?pid=5674851345735773362&oid=112266164281670850856 | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:45 |
| lbt | yeah - much more flattering - but less realistic :D | 10:47 |
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| zuh | Oh, I was wondering how you guys exchange ideas; according to that picture "sync through wire" | 11:53 |
| Stskeeps | telepathy framework got integrated since | 11:53 |
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| rcg | vgrade, ping | 16:59 |
| rcg | or anyone else who has experience with mer on the raspberry pi | 16:59 |
| rcg | is there a way to use the hdmi output? | 16:59 |
| rcg | if yes, how? | 16:59 |
| rcg | video output, i.e. | 17:00 |
| rcg | or at least, what would be the places to look in | 17:00 |
| rcg | well, nevermind | 17:05 |
| rcg | it works out of the box | 17:05 |
| rcg | apparently, the sd card adapter was funky | 17:05 |
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| vgrade | :) | 18:08 |
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| vgrade | rcg: sorry I missed your ping, looks like you worked it out | 20:07 |
| rcg | vgrade, yeah, it was my sd card adapter that was funky | 20:08 |
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| rcg | thanks for checking back :) | 20:08 |
| CosmoHill | hi vgrade and rcg | 20:08 |
| CosmoHill | vgrade: how's the floods? | 20:08 |
| rcg | this was actually the first time i booted up a raspberry pi :) | 20:09 |
| rcg | hey CosmoHill | 20:09 |
| vgrade | CosmoHill: still above water here | 20:10 |
| vgrade | what about you | 20:10 |
| CosmoHill | not too bad the bits I go on, went down some country roads on Sunday and was able to get through any flood water in the fiesta | 20:11 |
| CosmoHill | the flood plains look like a lake with random trees | 20:11 |
| vgrade | yea, I saw some sights on journey down to FOSDEM | 20:12 |
| rcg | you guys are having a serious flood over there? | 20:13 |
| vgrade | rcg: usual UK , bit of weather and the whole country grinds to a halt | 20:13 |
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| rcg | heh, ic.. sounds like germany when it is snowing | 20:14 |
| vgrade | http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/floods/142151.aspx | 20:14 |
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| CosmoHill | vgrade: tbh a lot of it has been underwater for a long time and some has been swept to sea | 20:15 |
| rcg | alright, there are a "few" marked areas | 20:15 |
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| CosmoHill | http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2014/02/flooding-in-southwest-england/100677/ | 20:17 |
| vgrade | 16 severe - "danger to life" - 123 warning "immediate action required" - 229 alert "be prepared" | 20:17 |
| vgrade | so quite unusual | 20:17 |
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| rcg | yay, "danger to life" sounds bad :/ | 20:18 |
| rcg | hope you guys are alright and at proper height | 20:18 |
| CosmoHill | I am | 20:21 |
| rcg | good to hear | 20:21 |
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| cxl000 | rcg, I have refreshed rpi firmware and have compiled gst-omx. | 21:07 |
| rcg | cxl000, cool :) | 21:08 |
| cxl000 | gst-omx requires gstreamer-1.0 so a bunch of mer-core and nemo packages would need to be built in the hw adaptation until mer-core updates | 21:10 |
| rcg | hmmz, ic | 21:10 |
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| rcg | btw., speaking of nemo, is there actually a version of nemo for rpi that starts the ui? | 21:11 |
| rcg | just tried the .ks linked from the wiki and this only boots into the command line | 21:11 |
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| cxl000 | Not tried for since mid last year at that time there was still issues with qtwayland compositor. | 21:17 |
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| cxl000 | rcg, I'll build a more recent QPA soon and give it a try | 21:17 |
| rcg | ic | 21:18 |
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| cxl000 | I have previously been able to run weston. One of the desktop such as orbital or hawaii might be a better fit. | 21:18 |
| rcg | would be nice if you could ping me once you do this | 21:18 |
| rcg | i see | 21:19 |
| rcg | so far, i looked around a bit and found qtwayland in vgrade's repos on obs. but it fails to build right now | 21:19 |
| rcg | btw, did anyone in here experiment with the improv? | 21:20 |
| rcg | http://makeplaylive.com/#/home | 21:21 |
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| vgrade | rcg: I have an eoma68 and 1st revision on enginerring board. runs mer + libybris | 22:21 |
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| vgrade | rcg: I did manage to get nemo on Pi but qt has moved as you've seen | 22:24 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas] | 22:34 |
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| vgrade | rcg: this commit added the required extension to pi userspace libs to support vanilla wayland but it looks not to have been accepted upstream | 22:37 |
| vgrade | https://github.com/tomeuv/userland/commit/c22c00f1e430b105a2c3dbbeffcf4762f27c3b17 | 22:37 |
| rcg | vgrade, thx for the info :) | 22:38 |
| rcg | to be honest, i hoped that it'd be in a more "ready" state | 22:38 |
| rcg | but anyhow, great thanks for all your efforts | 22:38 |
| vgrade | rcg: using this would mean that the pi specific elg plugin would not be required | 22:38 |
| rcg | as far as i read, you have been one of the main contributors of the rpi hw adaptation | 22:39 |
| rcg | hmm ic | 22:39 |
| vgrade | rcg: cxl000 kulve also | 22:39 |
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| vgrade | too many targets, too little spare time | 22:40 |
| rcg | ic :) | 22:40 |
| rcg | indeed | 22:40 |
| rcg | time, especially spare time is a common problem ;) | 22:40 |
| vgrade | one day | 22:41 |
| rcg | :) | 22:41 |
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| sledges | or when they build more cores into the brain or similar :) | 22:41 |
| rcg | was it the "hitchhikers guide to the galaxy" to quote: "time is an illusion. lunch time doubleish so"? | 22:41 |
| rcg | or more brains into the head | 22:42 |
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| rcg | :) | 22:42 |
| sledges | or that brain could ssh somewhere and fork itself | 22:42 |
| sledges | :) | 22:42 |
| rcg | that's what spiritual people do :D | 22:42 |
| sledges | :)) | 22:43 |
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| vgrade | adaptation is a full time job, keeping up with upstream kernals, drivers, changes in core comonents (wayland, qt, connman etc). hopefully the hybris on andriod can standardise most of this | 22:46 |
| vgrade | rcg: what were you planning for Pi anyway | 22:46 |
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| rcg | vgrade, i just thought of it as a "cheap" platform for some students to hack with | 22:52 |
| rcg | but as i want to target qt5 development, i realize that this is likely not what i want | 22:52 |
| rcg | preferably, i want to target either sailfish, nemo, or plasma active with a strong emphasis on qt5 | 22:53 |
| vgrade | rcg: I'll see if I can spare sometime, not promises though | 22:56 |
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| vgrade | rcg: http://www.ics.com/blog/building-qt-and-qtwayland-raspberry-pi#.UvqrE3aM21g | 23:00 |
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| vgrade | rcg: gives you what you would need to do qt5 dev with students | 23:01 |
| rcg | vgrade, please don't invest any time in this unless you really have a good reason to | 23:02 |
| rcg | i mean, your effort is highly appreciated but this will be only a pretty small side project | 23:03 |
| rcg | i'd rather go and buy some more nexus 7 (2012) than spend too much time with this | 23:03 |
| vgrade | rcg: that link should get you going | 23:03 |
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| rcg | maybe the faculty will even pay for the nexus 7 as this is some sort of project | 23:03 |
| rcg | aye, thanks a lot for your help :D | 23:04 |
| vgrade | rcg: having said that we (mer) should have a working Pi adaptation , we did once and no reason for not still having that | 23:05 |
| rcg | yeah, the pi is a really attractive platform | 23:06 |
| rcg | however, it aged quite a bit and there may be platforms that are lower hanging fruits for similarly reasonable prices these days? | 23:07 |
| fk_lx | like beaglebone black | 23:07 |
| ryukafalz | bbb is quite nice, though gpu performance isn't as good as the pi's | 23:08 |
| rcg | hmm, bbb looks nice indeed | 23:12 |
| rcg | but the specs are one side, the sw-support-side is the other | 23:12 |
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| rcg | the ideal platform for my use case would allow me to download a .ks for nemo, create the image via the mer sdk, and then result in an at least 60% working and running nemo installation with ui | 23:13 |
| fk_lx | rcg: as far as I know BBB is very well documented and lot more open in terms of hardware support when compared with RPi | 23:16 |
| rcg | fk_lx, aye, ic | 23:18 |
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