Wednesday, 2014-01-22

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tbrgood moaning05:59
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merlin1991morning06:00
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sudomanis this the latest build online for the n900: http://releases.nemomobile.org/releases/0.20130620.0.1/images/nemo-armv7hl-n900/06:50
sudomani couldn't find nemo here: http://images.formeego.org/n900/06:51
sudomanbtw, the https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing page is really kind of a organizational nightmare06:52
sudomani'm might be willing to help with that, if changes are welcome06:52
sudomanputting specifics on separate pages could help a lot06:53
tbrthe build on releases is likely the latest stable06:54
sudomanhm, from june?06:54
sudomanthat's cool :)06:54
tbrafter that nemo moved to wayland and I'm not sure how well that works on the N90006:54
sudomantbr, i'd be willing to test out some of the functionality some time in the future06:55
sudomanmaybe soonish :)06:55
tbrmight want to join #nemomobile06:55
sudomanthx06:55
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AL13N_lappylbt ping13:03
AL13N_lappyabout http://review.merproject.org/#change,1653 , i submitted patchset 5, but i think these macros shouldn't be used, since openvpn@.service isn't a service that should be started or stopped13:04
AL13N_lappyperhaps patchset 4 should really be used13:04
AL13N_lappyalso, if both systemd and connman use it, they will have separate openvpn processes, so they wouldn't conflict anyway13:06
AL13N_lappythere would just be 2 sets of openvpns13:06
AL13N_lappydepending on config and remote site, the second one would work or not13:06
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kaltsiUninstall: I see you've been working on the compiler upgrade to Mer.. how well do you know ARM and the toolchain? there's an interesting bug that affects Qt5 arm builds and a patch proposal from Linaro, but the guy is not sure about the patch...15:28
kaltsiUninstall: here's the proposal and a link to the original problem https://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2014-01/msg00172.html15:28
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Uninstallkaltsi: I need to study that patch, I can't judge it right it15:29
Uninstall*right now15:29
kaltsiok15:29
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Bricker_'lo15:39
Bricker_1969...15:39
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CosmoHillsledges: http://forums.kustompcs.co.uk/showpost.php?p=505123&postcount=4522:16
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sledgesvery nice tip with hot water CosmoHill ! will try meself22:24
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sledgesoil on spark plug? :)22:25
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CosmoHillsledges: a mechanic in #lfs says they're alright22:32
sledgesok then ;)22:33
* sledges took her to MOT today22:33
CosmoHillyou're a girl? and you needed a MOT?22:33
sledgesnew exhaust and droplinks22:33
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sledgesCosmoHill: yes, if you don't /me commands :))22:34
CosmoHillwait, you're really a girl?22:34
sledgesxD22:34
sledgesor you're double sarcasm :))22:34
CosmoHilljust didn't know22:34
sledgesyou never know22:35
sledgesmy orig nick is sledge22:35
CosmoHillas long as you're human it doesn't matter what your gender is (unless you're trans but that's another matter)22:35
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* CosmoHill is a cis male btw22:36
AL13NCosmoHill: goddamnit22:36
AL13Ni always get excluded22:36
sledgesand in lithuania 'e' suffix indicates a feminine noun :D had hard time putting ignores on good old lithuani IRC :))22:36
artemmatestosterone level in channel up22:36
* sledges is a virtual being22:36
CosmoHillAL13N: lol, worry22:36
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AL13Nactually artemma sounds female22:37
* AL13N hides22:37
artemmaAL13N: artemma sounds an abbreviation :)22:37
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artemmaartem is too common nick, taken usually22:37
alteregoThere are no girls on the internet :P22:38
sledgesxD22:38
CosmoHillI don't read nicks outloud so I don't think about it22:38
artemmathere are girls on the internet??!!22:38
artemmayou mean like real ones?22:38
AL13Nsomeone tried to find a reverse-abrev for my name22:38
sledgesartemma: sad to break the news for you22:38
AL13Nalphebetisation is the closest they got22:38
sledgesbut all girls you knew, they were all ole pervs22:38
artemmasledges: that's wonderful news!22:38
CosmoHillI wanna go to bed but this chat is funny22:38
sledges*online22:38
AL13N*alphabetisation22:38
artemmathough I still didn't understand whether sledges is male or female22:39
artemmachannel testosterone level unsure22:39
AL13Nhahaha22:39
sledgesartemma: 22:38 < alterego> There are no girls on the internet :P22:39
alteregoHeh22:39
sledges:D22:39
alteregoI come here to get away from girls ;)22:40
AL13Nthere is this new video about a boy who's in love with a girl, but apparently the girl doesn't exist22:40
sledgesO.o22:40
sledgesalterego: so you watch boys' pictures?22:40
AL13N(unreleased yet, i saw a part of it today)22:40
simon___hi:) do not want to interrupt the girl-nickname-discussion. I would like to ask about Mer Qt 4.8 and X11, how long is it going to be supported?22:40
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sledgesAL13N: there is a facebook "service" called virtual girlfriend, who pretends to be your real one22:41
* artemma has once a sad story about a gay comeout. He divorced and started living with his new love. And that new love decided he wants to become a girl..22:41
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AL13Nartemma: hahaha, the irony22:41
artemmahas read*22:41
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CosmoHillit's time to help simon___22:41
AL13Nsledges: i'm not surprised22:41
simon___:) yeeeee!22:41
simon___it is about the QWidget and X11Embedd22:42
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simon___Wayland does not support it anymore since its Qt5x22:42
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AL13NCosmoHill: btw: what does all this "cisgender" stuff mean? you said you were "cis male", what is that?22:43
CosmoHillI'm off to bed now, good luck simon___. nigth everyone22:43
AL13Nlike most people understand male?22:44
CosmoHillAL13N: it means I was born with the correct gender22:44
CosmoHillas in I'm male and was born with a male body22:44
simon___thx CosmoHill22:44
AL13Nk22:44
AL13Nnight then22:44
AL13Ni'll go too22:44
CosmoHillunlike that lover in artemma's story22:44
CosmoHillthat was a woman born male22:44
CosmoHilland with that I will leave you22:45
CosmoHillnight night22:45
sledgessimon___: what interesting hardware are you tinkering?22:45
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simon___I am working on x86 mostly, IVI stuff and X11Embedd I used to embedd QWidgets of other applicaiton. But guys on Sailfish say, there will be no support of it anymore, just Qt5. So since MerSDK is based on Mer and Nemo is based on Mer I would like to know how long is my construct going to work. I will be right back, have to feen my little doughter.22:47
sledgesas Mer is leaning towards contemporary interactive devices; so if there are x11/qt4 testers, there will be support; natural selection22:47
sledgesx11/qt4 as-is is pretty much stable, you want to ask: how long is your construct going to work depends more on your hardware manufacturers and driver availability in future22:49
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sledgesalso depends if you find bugs in x11/qt4 that block you - Mer is open to contributions even to old packages, is easy to fix things around and contribute upstream. So it also depends on support level from the upstream side-of-things. Yet again, hardware/driver bugs is another hurdle (again you should investigate your specific setup). Mer is just a nice [patchable] collection of them all22:55
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simon___sledges: thanks!22:59
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sledgessimon___: welcome23:02
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