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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: is the ssl certificate for review.merpoject.org expired? | 09:34 |
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| Uninstall | (good morning) | 09:34 |
| Stskeeps | maaybe | 09:35 |
| Stskeeps | i just see it as untrusted | 09:35 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: by the way git clone ssh://Uninstall@review.merproject.org:29418/mer-core/cmake.git doesn't work for me | 09:41 |
| Uninstall | it just hangs | 09:41 |
| Stskeeps | i'll kick it | 09:41 |
| Uninstall | ok | 09:41 |
| Uninstall | cool | 09:41 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: ping me when it is fixed | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | was restarted | 09:52 |
| Uninstall | let me retry | 09:58 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: still not working | 10:04 |
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| Stskeeps | now? | 10:09 |
| Uninstall | no :/ | 10:09 |
| Stskeeps | hrm | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | then i'm not sure | 10:10 |
| Stskeeps | should work | 10:10 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: do you mind to try to clone cmake? | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | Resolving deltas: 100% (13/13), done. | 10:23 |
| Stskeeps | MerSDK cvm@Ubuntu-1204-precise-64-minimal:~$ | 10:24 |
| Uninstall | is it ok this command: git clone ssh://Uninstall@review.merproject.org:29418/mer-core/cmake.git ? | 10:24 |
| Uninstall | "Enter passphrase for key '/home/davide/.ssh/id_rsa':" | 10:25 |
| Uninstall | and it hangs | 10:25 |
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| stephg | Uninstall can you telnet review.merproject.org 22 | 10:35 |
| stephg | it's open here | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | 29418 | 10:35 |
| stephg | oh yeah | 10:36 |
| stephg | it's open here | 10:36 |
| stephg | so if it no work for you is a notwork thing | 10:36 |
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| diego_r | Hi everybody. Curiosity quesiton. Is Jolla Phone using libhybris or native Wayland driver? | 11:14 |
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| alterego | diego_r: it uses libhybris | 11:26 |
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| diego_r | alterego: thanks. So still no chip vendor willing to collaborate on open drivers. | 11:29 |
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| AL13N_lappy | is Dario Freddi here sometimes? i got a review for http://review.merproject.org/1653 , but i think he's overlooking the fact that this is about tmpfiles (ie: the /run is tmpfs) | 11:51 |
| w00t | drf__: ^ | 11:52 |
| drf__ | AL13N_lappy: hello | 11:52 |
| AL13N_lappy | hi | 11:52 |
| AL13N_lappy | i replied to your comments in the review | 11:53 |
| drf__ | AL13N_lappy: you're right, I didn't realize that | 11:53 |
| drf__ | AL13N_lappy: I did an auto s/run/var in my head, sorry | 11:53 |
| AL13N_lappy | still, there probably can be improvement someplace | 11:53 |
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| AL13N_lappy | lemme know how to handle all of that and the rest and i'll redo the commit | 11:53 |
| drf__ | AL13N_lappy: maybe you didn't hit "review"? because I do not see your replies | 11:54 |
| * AL13N_lappy is actually a mageia packager | 11:54 | |
| AL13N_lappy | aah | 11:54 |
| AL13N_lappy | (but as it's likely obvious, i'm new to #mer or whatnot, but this is cause i bought a jolla) | 11:54 |
| drf__ | :D | 11:55 |
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| AL13N_lappy | drf__: ok i think i published it now | 11:58 |
| drf__ | AL13N_lappy: yep, thx :) will look at it now | 11:59 |
| drf__ | AL13N_lappy: you're indeed right about the approach | 12:00 |
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| drf__ | AL13N_lappy: it's a ship it for me if you fix the _unitdir thing, sorry for overlooking | 12:00 |
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| AL13N_lappy | np | 12:01 |
| AL13N_lappy | i'll do it tonight when i'm home, (that's where my ssh keys are) | 12:01 |
| drf__ | awesome, and thanks for the patch! | 12:01 |
| AL13N_lappy | well, this is because i want that on my jolla :-) | 12:02 |
| drf__ | :) | 12:02 |
| AL13N_lappy | well, i have it now, but that's all just manual stuff | 12:03 |
| alterego | diego_r: I don't think a lot will change there :) | 12:03 |
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| AL13N_lappy | drf__: as you can imagine the systemd service file is based on the Mageia one :-) | 12:06 |
| drf__ | AL13N_lappy: I somehow figured that out :) | 12:06 |
| diego_r | alterego: some forces are already poking chip makers here and there. I have hope. http://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-sunxi/2014-01-20#6227718; | 12:06 |
| diego_r | http://makeplaylive.com/#/open-hardware/about | 12:07 |
| diego_r | small efforts, but everything started as a "small thing" at the beginning. | 12:07 |
| diego_r | remember Torvalds Linux announcement? | 12:08 |
| alterego | diego_r: still, people have been complaining about this for a very long time. And not a lot of progress has been made from what I can see :) | 12:09 |
| diego_r | alterego: on the ARM side of things this is true, but on the x86 side, the progress is clear, especially on the Intel and AMD side of things. | 12:12 |
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| alterego | Sure, though I have heard nVidia are getting a bit more open too. | 12:17 |
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| diego_r | alterego: that doesn't mean it didn't happen: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ2NzY | 12:19 |
| AL13N_lappy | drf__: i committed, but this time i also chgrp'd it to openvpn (just like in the tmpfiles dir) | 12:19 |
| drf__ | AL13N_lappy: ++, already gave my +1, now let's wait for the others to come over :) thanks! | 12:21 |
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| AL13N_lappy | np, thanks! | 12:23 |
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| lbt | AL13N_lappy: ping | 13:42 |
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| lbt | could you modify it to BuildRequire: systemd | 13:43 |
| lbt | and then use the systemd macros | 13:43 |
| AL13N_lappy | ah, that would indeed be better | 13:43 |
| lbt | gerrit uses openid and my provider is down :/ | 13:43 |
| AL13N_lappy | i want a different openid provider than google :-( | 13:44 |
| AL13N_lappy | lbt: why cant oauth2 be used as openid provider? | 13:44 |
| lbt | yeah - I used openid | 13:44 |
| lbt | honestly it's not an area I know much about | 13:45 |
| AL13N_lappy | then i could use the jolla account | 13:45 |
| AL13N_lappy | ah well | 13:45 |
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| lbt | for Mer we will be moving to our own ldap service :) | 13:45 |
| AL13N_lappy | that's better | 13:45 |
| lbt | which is what we use everywhere else except gerrit | 13:45 |
| lbt | grrr | 13:45 |
| AL13N_lappy | lbt: i assume the yaml file needs the pkgBR too? | 13:46 |
| lbt | yes - I can't casually think of a reference package | 13:46 |
| lbt | try connman | 13:46 |
| AL13N_lappy | k | 13:46 |
| AL13N_lappy | pulseaudio has systemd too | 13:46 |
| lbt | connman is bad | 13:47 |
| lbt | so is pa | 13:48 |
| AL13N_lappy | ah | 13:48 |
| lbt | so is ofono | 13:49 |
| AL13N_lappy | which packages actually provides the macros? | 13:49 |
| AL13N_lappy | systemd itself? | 13:49 |
| AL13N_lappy | not systemd-devel or something similar? | 13:50 |
| lbt | correct - it's actually pretty tiny | 13:50 |
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| AL13N_lappy | every distro has really their own ways... | 13:51 |
| lbt | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:ScriptletSnippets#Systemd | 13:51 |
| AL13N_lappy | i did a new patchset | 13:52 |
| lbt | ty - ^^ that format should be correct | 13:52 |
| lbt | worth testing though :) | 13:52 |
| AL13N_lappy | lemme know if something else is required, ok? | 13:53 |
| lbt | ah - I meant the BR is to use ^^ macros in the spec | 13:55 |
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| lbt | also line 143 won't work | 13:55 |
| AL13N_lappy | what is ^^ macros? | 13:56 |
| lbt | /run is/can be a tmpfs | 13:56 |
| AL13N_lappy | yes? | 13:56 |
| AL13N_lappy | so? | 13:56 |
| AL13N_lappy | i have a tmpfiles.d/openvpn.conf file | 13:56 |
| AL13N_lappy | lbt: no? | 13:56 |
| lbt | what's tmpfiles.d/ ? | 13:57 |
| AL13N_lappy | the systemd things for making dirs in /run/ ? | 13:58 |
| AL13N_lappy | lbt: check screen package for comparison | 13:58 |
| lbt | so ... why do you mkdir in /run in the %post ? | 13:59 |
| lbt | shouldn't reload resolve anything there | 13:59 |
| lbt | nb ^^^ macros meant the ones here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:ScriptletSnippets#Systemd | 14:00 |
| VDVsx | Stskeeps, mer still has qt4 builds ? | 14:02 |
| AL13N_lappy | lbt: afaik only rebooting makes this directory | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | VDVsx: yes, for while being | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | KDE and such | 14:03 |
| AL13N_lappy | lbt: ah, you mean the requirements for the post section and such | 14:03 |
| lbt | AL13N_lappy: yes | 14:04 |
| VDVsx | Stskeeps, ok, w00t proposed a patch to remove qt4 support from qmf upstream, but I guess this does not impact anymore, since qmf is in nemomobile-packages now | 14:05 |
| AL13N_lappy | lbt: do you have the same preset system in mer? | 14:05 |
| lbt | yes | 14:05 |
| lbt | it helps with repackaging if daemon policy changes | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | VDVsx: ok | 14:05 |
| AL13N_lappy | lbt: cause it's not meant to be enabled | 14:05 |
| AL13N_lappy | ok then, i'll make the modifications tonight | 14:05 |
| lbt | it should work either way | 14:06 |
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| lbt | if there are no configs then an enabled service should just be quiet and probably stop nicely | 14:07 |
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| AL13N_lappy | yes,but, if you guys don't have the preset system, the service would be enabled with these macros | 14:07 |
| AL13N_lappy | which is not something that should be | 14:07 |
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| lbt | we should have preset - and systemd will be updated any day now too :) | 14:11 |
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| lbt | and I'd argue that it should follow the same policy approach as all daemons | 14:12 |
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| lbt | fwiw sailfish would probably remove this anyhow | 14:12 |
| lbt | in fact ... hmmm ... given we have connman in core should we package openvpn systemd into an openvpn-systemd package ? | 14:13 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: ^^ I think that'd make sense since connman is also an openvpn controller | 14:13 |
| AL13N_lappy | is this necessary? it doesn't conflict | 14:15 |
| AL13N_lappy | besides, i'm working on an app UI for systemd | 14:16 |
| AL13N_lappy | besides, if you have connman, why not have connmancli ? (or cmc or whatever it's called) ? | 14:17 |
| lbt | well, it's not hard to make it another package inside the spec/yaml | 14:17 |
| lbt | nb ... I don't know the answer | 14:17 |
| lbt | however if connman and openvpn both use the same conf files then yes, it's needed | 14:18 |
| lbt | if connman uses its own then it's probably not needed | 14:18 |
| AL13N_lappy | lbt: at the very least they'll have different location | 14:19 |
| AL13N_lappy | there's the connman-vpn/ directory | 14:19 |
| lbt | yes - but I don't know if it references a vpn conf setup - which is what NM does iirc | 14:19 |
| * AL13N_lappy doesn't like NM | 14:21 | |
| AL13N_lappy | hopefully connman is better | 14:21 |
| lbt | don't hold your breath... | 14:21 |
| AL13N_lappy | i should learn more about it | 14:21 |
| lbt | yeah - me too ... in all my spare time | 14:21 |
| AL13N_lappy | not enough time | 14:22 |
| lbt | honestly though - I think it's better to discuss and solve these problems properly | 14:22 |
| lbt | I'd say it was more robust to make an openvpn-systemd package and if we find later that there's no conflict then merge them | 14:23 |
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| AL13N_lappy | i'd say it's better to find out if connman actually has different vpn dir without reference and not make stuff needlessly complex | 14:27 |
| AL13N_lappy | it seems that people don't use connman vpn now anyway, since we don't have an idea | 14:27 |
| lbt | agreed - if you want to do that research that's fine :) | 14:32 |
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| AL13N_lappy | lbt: nice one... though if there's one thing i would want from connman is that it would get my DNS even if i'm on IPv6 only | 15:10 |
| AL13N_lappy | and also not to have packet loss and duplicated traffic in my wlan | 15:10 |
| AL13N_lappy | but that's gonna be firmware bug, likely | 15:10 |
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| merlin1991 | hm there is https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=mer-python3 can I link this somehow into my home project, so that I can depend on the packges in there? | 16:11 |
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| tbr | merlin1991: yeah, but I think you need to edit the xml directly to add it as a secondary source | 16:16 |
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| * tbr tries to remember if any of his packages have that | 16:16 | |
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| Venemo | do we have a minimal mer image for Raspberry Pi? | 16:21 |
| alterego | Venemo: there's a .ks | 16:21 |
| Venemo | alterego: great :) | 16:22 |
| Venemo | alterego: where is it? | 16:22 |
| alterego | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Community_Workspace/RaspberryPi#Building_a_Mer_Core_Image | 16:22 |
| Venemo | thanks alterego | 16:23 |
| alterego | np | 16:23 |
| Venemo | I don't remember, can I install the Mer SDK under /home? | 16:24 |
| alterego | No, goes under /opt/sdks, or you could use VM | 16:24 |
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| Venemo | alterego: I'm better off with /opt than a VM :) | 16:35 |
| alterego | Well, that's how I roll too :P | 16:36 |
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| merlin1991 | my mersk is in /home | 16:42 |
| merlin1991 | ... | 16:42 |
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| sledges | /srv ( from https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#tl.3Bdr ) | 16:43 |
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| Venemo | merlin1991: and you still live? | 16:50 |
| merlin1991 | yes | 16:51 |
| sledges | not straightforward, but with some symlink magic or mount --bind should be ok | 16:54 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/#change,1656 | 18:37 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, will get on it tomorrow | 18:38 |
| Uninstall | ;) | 18:39 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/#change,1652 <-- this one is getting old but it is still good ;) | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | really a bit unsure of that one, doesn't it use AUXV in libpng to detect neon? | 18:40 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: well, previous spec has been enabling neon on every ARM cpu | 18:42 |
| Uninstall | this should be better than the previous one ;) | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | that's okay, if it autodetects | 18:42 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: http://pastebin.kde.org/ | 18:45 |
| Uninstall | sorry | 18:45 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: http://pastebin.kde.org/puestnanh | 18:45 |
| Stskeeps | that's fine though, it uses auxv to see if NEON can be used, else it doesn't use it? | 18:46 |
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| Uninstall | FILE *f = fopen("/proc/self/auxv", "r"); <-- #ifdef PNG_ARM_NEON | 18:47 |
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| Uninstall | @PNG_ARM_NEON_TRUE@am__append_1 = arm/filter_neon.S | 18:48 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i get that, and on armv7hl arm/filter_neon.S is built | 18:48 |
| Stskeeps | if you see the build log | 18:48 |
| Stskeeps | that's perfectly fine, as long as it doesn't execute unless it's on a device with factual NEON | 18:48 |
| Uninstall | I think that this gets built everywhere, but it shouldn't hur | 18:48 |
| Uninstall | *hurt | 18:49 |
| AL13N | lbt: i remember now why i didn't use the snippets... it's because it's a openvpn@.service ... it cannot be started and stopped like this, i'd have to make a openvpn.target instead | 18:49 |
| AL13N | you do "systemctl start openvpn@config.service" | 18:49 |
| AL13N | even though the file is called openvpn@.service | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | Uninstall: as in, i don't see the harm of it enabled for armv7hl/armv7l | 18:49 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: should I add it and keep out armv6l that doesn't have it for sure? | 18:50 |
| Uninstall | s/it/them/ | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | that's okay, but not harmful strictly speaking on armv6l | 18:51 |
| Uninstall | right | 18:51 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/#patch,sidebyside,1657,1,libpng.spec ;) | 18:53 |
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| Uninstall | I don't have any preference about merging it or not ;) | 18:54 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: any news about problems with new glibc? | 18:58 |
| Uninstall | any task I can do? | 18:58 |
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