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| Uninstall | Good morning to everyone | 08:20 |
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| Stskeeps | good morning | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | how's feedback been? | 08:21 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: I've been looking to that stuff briefly yesterday night | 08:22 |
| Uninstall | and I will spend some time this morning on it | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | oh i meant feedback on your launch :) | 08:23 |
| Uninstall | oh, ok | 08:23 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: rather good | 08:24 |
| Uninstall | :) | 08:24 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: do you know how long it takes before something approved on gerrit is visible on gitweb? | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | if it's merged, it shows up instantly | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | same server | 08:26 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/scratchbox2.git;a=summary | 08:29 |
| Uninstall | reports that the last change has been on the 21st of september | 08:29 |
| Uninstall | hasn't been updated yesterday? | 08:30 |
| Stskeeps | yes, but the commit date is from back then | 08:32 |
| Stskeeps | unlike github which i think adds a merge commit thing | 08:33 |
| Uninstall | oh | 08:33 |
| Uninstall | ok | 08:33 |
| Uninstall | thank you | 08:33 |
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| Uninstall | brrr | 08:39 |
| Uninstall | foggy day outside | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | here too | 08:39 |
| Uninstall | https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1379335_10202179550594360_1562727232_n.jpg <-- our office | 08:39 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: here == poland | 08:39 |
| Uninstall | good morning namtab | 08:40 |
| Uninstall | notmart* | 08:40 |
| notmart | Uninstall: yo | 08:40 |
| Uninstall | how's going? | 08:40 |
| notmart | buh, is going... | 08:40 |
| notmart | :p | 08:40 |
| Uninstall | ehehe | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | Uninstall: yeah | 08:41 |
| Stskeeps | nice office | 08:41 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: the location is rather cool... it is in the middle of the country outside venice | 08:42 |
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| Uninstall | btw today is Wed I would expect something triggering the midweek hemera rebuild :D | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | btw did you test eglibc with 'old' gcc? | 08:45 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: no, I didn't | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | oki | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | i'm currently merging some of the low hanging fruit and promoting that to testing | 08:48 |
| Stskeeps | and then i'll take eglibc/gcc when that is somewhat in a good state | 08:48 |
| Uninstall | cool | 08:49 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: there are some fixes around for broken stuff libaccount-qt | 08:49 |
| Stskeeps | who's your MDS2 guy out of interest? | 08:49 |
| Uninstall | kostola takes care of OBS, MDS2 and all that stuff here | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | oki | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | kostola: hello! | 08:50 |
| kostola | Stskeeps: hello | 08:51 |
| kostola | how long | 08:51 |
| kostola | i mean it's been a long time | 08:52 |
| kostola | :) | 08:52 |
| Stskeeps | kostola: so i have two things.. one is a patch towards mds2 that enables reading mer core format like is in http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer/project-core.git;a=commit;h=efd008691aaaf49a20a6895fb15c0787c63bd365 | 08:52 |
| Stskeeps | so instead of source files, it provides _service files | 08:52 |
| kostola | ok | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | would you be interested in trying this out? | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | it should be backwards compatible | 08:54 |
| kostola | it sounds interesting | 08:54 |
| kostola | but we have to think a little bit about it | 08:54 |
| Stskeeps | oki | 08:54 |
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| kostola | at the moment we're quite busy due to hemera launch next month | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | yeah can imagine | 08:57 |
| kostola | but if I'll have some free time, I'll take a look at it | 08:57 |
| kostola | you said that you have two things...what's the second one? | 08:58 |
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| Stskeeps | the second one is that you can then try to do a build with that + tar_git service in 'dumb' mode | 08:58 |
| kostola | ok | 08:58 |
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| kostola | Stskeeps: thanks | 09:07 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: which mer version are you using in sailfishos? | 13:51 |
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| Stskeeps | Uninstall: latest + mer:qt mods practically | 13:52 |
| Uninstall | uh, ok | 13:54 |
| Stskeeps | why, ooi? | 13:55 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: I was wondering if recent changes are going to land in sailfish too | 13:55 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, probably - but cherry-picked | 13:56 |
| Uninstall | someone told me that there might be some problems with a recent gcc due to certifications | 13:56 |
| Stskeeps | basically changing toolchain is kinda invasive and may change the outcome of sourcecode compiled to binary code | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | so that may affect bits and pieces that require some areas to be re-certified | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | also the workload :) | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | of fixing things broken by a pickier gcc | 13:58 |
| Stskeeps | but that doesn't stop getting updated components anyway | 13:58 |
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| Stskeeps | just some parts of problematic | 14:03 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: so you pratically have to avoid rebuilds for some kind of stuff? | 14:26 |
| Stskeeps | well, rather that if there's something affecting it.. it's hardware near stuff, or related to telephony behaviour etc | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | and compilers can do funky thing | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | s | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | http://developer.sonymobile.com/2011/12/07/ice-cream-sandwich-from-source-code-release-to-software-upgrade/ | 14:28 |
| Uninstall | is ceritfication done by a 3rd party company? | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | there's often a lab involved and somebody checking results and issuing a certificate | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | it's all very facisnating, but also insane at times.. | 14:30 |
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| Stskeeps | for example: if you have a device with a modem in it, you don't need full certification for whole device combo, just the modem.. until the point you start having voice calls and you're a phone | 14:31 |
| Stskeeps | GCF, in this instance | 14:31 |
| Uninstall | is this mandatory if you want to sell cell phone devices? | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | if you guys are going to put embedded products out, i recommend you start now to look at what it takes to get CE certification and the likes | 14:32 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: we are not doing hardware products as you may know | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | but prepare to have to support people that do | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:35 |
| Uninstall | but we are investigating what we can do in that direction | 14:35 |
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| Stskeeps | bbl | 14:38 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: do you know how to build an ARM package without scratchbox2? | 14:58 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: I need to build a kernel that builds only with 2009 codesourcery toolchain | 14:59 |
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| Stskeeps | baselibs.conf perhaps | 15:02 |
| lbt | Uninstall: do you mean make an rpm ? | 15:02 |
| Uninstall | lbt: yes | 15:03 |
| lbt | so you've done a make and got arm binaries ... you want to wrap them into rpms | 15:03 |
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| Uninstall | I have a package on OBS that should be crosscompiled for arm using a custom compiler thar runs on i586 | 15:03 |
| lbt | your own OBS ? | 15:04 |
| Uninstall | yes | 15:04 |
| Uninstall | lbt: I would like to add it to OBS so I can trigger a rebuild every time I change the .config for example | 15:04 |
| lbt | yeah - so the hacky way is to have Source1: toochain.tar.gz :) | 15:05 |
| lbt | then %build would unpack the toolchain and setup PATHs | 15:05 |
| Stskeeps | Uninstall: look at baselibs.conf for sb2-tools, it gives a good idea of how to export something to arm scheduler | 15:05 |
| Uninstall | is what I'm doing | 15:05 |
| Uninstall | I would just avoid to have sb2 interfering with that build process | 15:06 |
| Stskeeps | sure, it's not involved | 15:07 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: so If I don't have any arm binary around that has to be runt sb2 doesn't interfere? | 15:09 |
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| Stskeeps | so my idea is that you do the kernel build on x86 and export it to arm scheduler with baselibs.conf | 15:12 |
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| Stskeeps | so sb2 is never run in that scenario as it's a x86 build | 15:12 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: ok, thank you | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | it's one way of doing it :P | 15:16 |
| lbt | yeah - that's what I was meaning too :) | 15:16 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: so I can do this on the project config? | 15:20 |
| Uninstall | right? | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | Uninstall: baselibs.conf allows you to do this in a package | 15:20 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: so, I just need to add this to the package on OBS? | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | be aware that this is obs black magic | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | expect some time to get it right | 15:20 |
| Uninstall | ok | 15:20 |
| Uninstall | ok, so on OBS I will use i586 scheduler and then baselibs.conf will force an arm output? | 15:22 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 15:22 |
| Uninstall | cool | 15:22 |
| Uninstall | it doesn't seem so hard... any good example around? | 15:23 |
| Stskeeps | sb2-tools-template | 15:23 |
| Stskeeps | and that's what i said before i had to go get lots of psychological treatment ;) | 15:23 |
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| lbt | I'm not 100% sure how to tell your rpm that it is an arm rpm though | 15:24 |
| * alterego wonders how well rsync SDK and sharing it between computers will work. | 15:26 | |
| alterego | lbt: started working on binary blob extraction from Android images now. | 15:27 |
| lbt | alterego: should be fine - but I tend to just rsync my dev env | 15:27 |
| lbt | alterego: :) | 15:27 |
| lbt | I've just got a neat fix for uids | 15:27 |
| alterego | After that I want to work on building our own kernels, from their sources. | 15:27 |
| alterego | So I can have the complete adaptation done in my repos. | 15:27 |
| alterego | ~adaptations | 15:27 |
| alterego | What's the favoured way of making .ks files now-a-days? I've always just copy&paste&edit ones I find. | 15:28 |
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| lbt | not really sure ... I use mer-kickstarter still | 15:30 |
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| sledges | +1 | 15:30 |
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| lbt | it's kinda nice to make variations - there is ssuks but I missed the training course | 15:31 |
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| alterego | I'm thinking I'd like something .yaml based, where you can specify target hardware properties, which generates the required adaptation files. Which a field for say "appliance profiles" where you select a meta-package for say "phone", "tablet", "tv", etc. | 15:31 |
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| lbt | yeah | 15:31 |
| lbt | mer-kickstarter | 15:32 |
| alterego | I'll look in to it thanks. | 15:32 |
| alterego | I wrote a readme to accompany my fork: https://github.com/tswindell/libhybris | 15:33 |
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| Uninstall | lbt: I think: arch <arch> targets <target_arch>[:<target_type>] [<target_arch>[:<target_type>]...] | 15:41 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: there must be a problem somewhere I think | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 20:30 |
| Uninstall | poppler from mer git doesn't build on our OBS | 20:30 |
| Uninstall | it fails due to an already applied patch it seems | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | possible, i didn't get the test results from there just yet | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | lemme check the devel branch | 20:31 |
| Uninstall | so it shouldn't build on Mer OBS too | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | yup, you're corect | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | +r | 20:31 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: it failed there too? | 20:32 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 20:32 |
| Uninstall | ok, so there was a dobule mistake | 20:32 |
| Uninstall | I did a mistake when I submited somehow something broken | 20:32 |
| Uninstall | and there was a mistake when it has been approved something broken ;) | 20:32 |
| Uninstall | we must be all careful | 20:32 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 20:33 |
| Uninstall | anyway sorry for the accident | 20:33 |
| Uninstall | now I'm having dinner later I'll send a fix for that | 20:33 |
| Uninstall | see you later and good night in case I don't see you | 20:33 |
| Stskeeps | nite | 20:33 |
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