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AlmindorI've installed my custom rpm (providing a library) in the SDK (sailfish/mer), but when I try to build with the lib. specified as dependency, it fails on that. I noticed there's a /host_target root dir on the sdk with some skeleton setup, is that what's used for builds?02:48
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rcgevening all18:41
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Stskeepsevening18:41
rcghow's it going?18:47
rcgbtw. is Sage around sometimes?18:47
Stskeepsgood good, kiddo asleep18:47
Stskeepsyeah he is18:47
rcggreat :) so time to code or rather sleep? ;)18:47
Stskeepscode18:47
rcg:D18:47
faenilno sleep till xmas :D18:48
rcghehe, well, am eagerly waiting to upgrade from my trusty n9 :)18:49
rcgfaenil, btw. is it safe again to zypper dup on the wayland nemo image?18:51
faenilrcg, nope, we're waiting for Vesuri to review lipstick's PR, as one of his commits broke UI on Nemo as side effect18:52
rcgfaenil, rgr, ic18:52
faenilw00t has given OK already, but we're waiting for Vesuri now18:53
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rcgaye18:53
rcgfaenil, i saw that you're making quite some progress with glacier ui?18:53
rcgwill it be entirely based on qt controls/components(? i always mix these up) or include custom components as well?18:54
faenilrcg, yeah we're going forward, I'm not the only one contributing ;)18:54
faenilrcg, custom as well of course, but reusing QQC as much as possible18:54
rcgStskeeps, btw. is your boy sleeping well at night? our little guy had quite a sleepless night yesterday xD18:55
Stskeepsrcg: yeah finally18:56
rcgfaenil, hehe, yeah, sure, i just happen to hop in all the time when you are here. plus you seem to be the most prominent contributor. :)18:56
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rcgStskeeps, nice :)18:57
faenilrcg, yeah as I am spending all the days on it instead of studying xD18:57
faenilbut that will change very shortly, and I'll fade to background :)18:57
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rcgfaenil, hehe, yeah, for me, i need to work quite a lot on my research stuff for the phd. plus the usual parenting tasks, so i am only very occasionally in here18:59
rcgfaenil, was that you who also wants to do his master thesis on nemo?19:00
rcgthat's also the reason, i think, why i am missing Sage all the time. only can come in here to pretty freaky times right now19:02
faenilrcg, oh I'd love that, unfortunately that will never happen in Italy19:03
faenilit was locusf ;)19:03
rcgstill need to pester him wrt qca qt5 :)19:03
faenileheh19:03
rcgfaenil, ah i see19:03
rcgit's pretty cool that he can join his scientific and research work19:03
faenilyep, definitely19:04
rcgeh.. open source and research i meant, or something :)19:04
rcgbut you got what i meant :)19:04
faenilyeah ;)19:05
rcgfaenil, with respect to the components, am asking because it's always some hassle to adapt to custom components19:07
faenilrcg, yes it is, but we can't afford going our own way19:08
rcgwill it be possible/reasonable to use just the components that come with qt5 and still benefit from the nemo ui style?19:08
faenilespecially because QQC will be used for iOS and Android apps :)19:08
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rcgfaenil, yeah, that's what i mean, stick to what comes with qt5 rather than creating many custom made components19:09
faenilrcg, well, some things require modding components19:09
rcgso the glacier ui will, essentially, be a "style" or so for the qqc that come with qt5?19:09
rcgi see19:09
faenilfor example I had to modify the "extend" the official button because it didn't expose the "pressed" mouseX/Y19:10
faenilwhich we require for the graphics effect19:10
rcghmm, i see19:10
faenilrcg, in quite a hacky way: https://github.com/faenil/qtquickcontrols-nemo/blob/master/src/controls/Button.qml#L2619:10
rcgwell, i will be curiously waiting for what guys come up with :)19:10
rcg*you guys19:10
faenilso, we can't offer same style for the button, or actually, we can but you won't have the pressed effect19:11
rcgalright, that would be cool if it is possible to have a default for qqc and then an extended version where needed19:12
faenilrcg, but changing the imports should be enough :)19:12
faenilfrom QQC to QQC.Nemo19:12
rcggreat :)19:12
faenilrcg, yes, that is a good idea, we might want to look into making a more basic styling for that purpose19:13
faenili.e app whose authors won't change the import line to use nemo comps19:13
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faenilrcg, so far only button requires custom component, so the rest will work with default components19:14
rcgfaenil, would be great, as it would ease the initial porting of apps quite a lot, i think19:14
rcggreat :)19:14
faenilrcg, yes I understand and agree19:14
faenil(except nemo-specific components of course, such as HeaderDock)19:14
rcgfaenil, yeah19:14
locusfI don't know yet if my thesis is doable, I need more experience on user experience analysis19:17
faenil:)19:18
rcg:)19:18
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