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| timoph | morn | 05:48 |
| Stskeeps | morn timoph | 05:48 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: you're back at the grinder this week? | 05:49 |
| Stskeeps | in an hour or so | 05:49 |
| timoph | good | 05:49 |
| timoph | was thinking that I really need to start working on the analysis stuff this week | 05:49 |
| Stskeeps | makes sense :) | 05:50 |
| timoph | now that my vacation is over I don't have that much time to do nothing anyway :) | 05:51 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 05:51 |
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| andoresu151 | hi | 07:03 |
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| andoresu151 | can Mer run on a Nook Simple Touch? | 07:22 |
| Stskeeps | isn't that kinda locked down? | 07:23 |
| andoresu151 | I've seen doc about MeeGo running on Nook color http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/Nook_Color but, not in Nook Simple Touch, so I wondered if it can run on it. | 07:25 |
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| dm8tbr | andoresu151: if you can fastboot, then it might be possible. still someone would need to create the hardware adaptation... | 07:29 |
| andoresu151 | dm8tbr: how can I make that and how can I help to get mer to work with this? | 07:29 |
| dm8tbr | andoresu151: what have you done with embedded linux so far? | 07:30 |
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| andoresu151 | dm8tbr: I'm sorry, I've not made anything with this. | 07:32 |
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| andoresu151 | dm8tbr: Sorry, my connection failed. As I said, I've not worked with embedded linux before. | 07:48 |
| dm8tbr | that will make it quite hard for you if you work alone | 07:49 |
| dm8tbr | you probably would need to find some other people to work together with | 07:49 |
| andoresu151 | dm8tbr: I see. | 07:50 |
| andoresu151 | dm8tbr: What can I do. How can I start? | 07:50 |
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| dm8tbr | andoresu151: find out if your tablet can even run custom operating systems | 08:08 |
| dm8tbr | andoresu151: if so, then the xda people probably found out by now | 08:08 |
| andoresu151 | dm8tbr: I see, thank you | 08:15 |
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| iekku_ | mer bug triage! | 11:00 |
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| Uninstall | Stskeeps: to be honest openssl upgrade is a nightmare | 13:31 |
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| Stskeeps | Uninstall: +1 | 15:08 |
| Uninstall | Stskeeps: +1 for the nightmare? | 15:08 |
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| Stskeeps | as in, openssl packaging is a nightmare :P | 15:09 |
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| Bostik | Stskeeps: "what could possibly go wrong?" | 15:54 |
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| rebk | Hi. What's Mer? | 18:18 |
| rebk | I was looking at a channel list, and was curious. | 18:18 |
| fk_lx | merproject.org | 18:21 |
| CosmoHill | rebk: what made you wanna join a random channel? | 18:22 |
| fk_lx | it's a cool, open source mobile optimised distribution developed in the open :-) | 18:22 |
| fk_lx | briefly speaking :-) | 18:22 |
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| rebk | Mobile optimised distribution...? What does that actually mean? | 18:28 |
| rebk | I swear I'm not trolling. Just curious. | 18:29 |
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| rebk | I'm reading wikipedia, it's all French to me. I gather it's something about computer stuff :D | 18:29 |
| fk_lx | rebk: yeah | 18:30 |
| fk_lx | rebk: exactly :-) | 18:30 |
| fk_lx | and mer means in French sea | 18:30 |
| rebk | So everyone here helps work on it? | 18:30 |
| fk_lx | rebk: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mer_(operating_system) | 18:31 |
| fk_lx | rebk: I think most of the people here contribute in some way, either code or documentation or evangelising (spreading the word) | 18:32 |
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| fk_lx | rebk: it is really an important stuff, Mer it's about openness, about having control over the device you use with this software | 18:33 |
| fk_lx | rebk: and most of all it's an open source software which means you can be quite sure that the software your phone has is not spying you and sending stuff about you to NSA or some corporations who want to interfere in your privacy | 18:36 |
| fk_lx | rebk: I recommend you to check http://jolla.com/ | 18:36 |
| fk_lx | rebk: it is a company that is developing a phone which is based on stuff from mer project | 18:37 |
| fk_lx | rebk: it is a true innovation and you will probably here about it when the phone will hit the shelves later this year and next one | 18:38 |
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| rebk | Wow, cool. | 18:41 |
| rebk | My phone isn't even rooted :P | 18:41 |
| rebk | I'm old and computer-dumb. | 18:41 |
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| fk_lx | rebk: on Jolla phone you will not have to root anything - the phone is open | 18:49 |
| fk_lx | rebk: it's giving control to the phone user and respecting him | 18:49 |
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| rebk | I like that, fk_lx. Is there a way to get all that on a phone before those phones come out? | 19:08 |
| rebk | Like, can a user just go and put Mer on his phone? | 19:08 |
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| fk_lx | rebk: actually what you are looking is something based on Mer | 19:11 |
| fk_lx | rebk: Mer is more like a base for mobile OSes | 19:11 |
| fk_lx | rebk: so there is Nemo Mobile which is based on Mer and is fully open, but still work in progress | 19:11 |
| fk_lx | rebk: you can try it on some of the phones, that support it | 19:12 |
| fk_lx | rebk: but of course it's not perfect | 19:12 |
| fk_lx | rebk: you can see how it works for example here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv8Q7iDRw7o | 19:13 |
| fk_lx | rebk: or here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga1dZ4vghY4 | 19:13 |
| rebk | So Mer is not an operating system, then... But Nemo Mobile is? | 19:13 |
| fk_lx | rebk: the second one more current, but in French ;-) | 19:14 |
| fk_lx | rebk: Mer is an operating system, but without UI, so no homescreen, icons, or typical GUI apps | 19:14 |
| fk_lx | rebk: so there are different solutions that use Mer as a base | 19:14 |
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| fk_lx | rebk: for example Plasma Active running on tablets is also based on Mer | 19:15 |
| fk_lx | rebk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb7isMAmwW0 | 19:15 |
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| joseluis_ | hi | 20:34 |
| joseluis_ | how I can install mer on a tablet? | 20:34 |
| CosmoHill | what tablet? | 20:36 |
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| joseluis_ | comoHill: on a generic tablet | 20:43 |
| joseluis_ | cpu= Cortex-A9 with Mail 400 | 20:44 |
| CosmoHill | that's what i wanted to know | 20:44 |
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| joseluis_ | ah ok | 20:45 |
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| joseluis_ | how i can install mer on this tablet? | 20:47 |
| CosmoHill | i have no idea | 20:47 |
| joseluis_ | umm | 20:47 |
| CosmoHill | does it have a sd card? | 20:47 |
| CosmoHill | what kind of boot loader | 20:47 |
| CosmoHill | I'm just asking questions to get info for smarter people | 20:47 |
| joseluis_ | I'm going to investigate that information | 20:48 |
| ali1234 | you should follow the instructions for some tablet which is similar to yours | 20:48 |
| CosmoHill | behold a smarter person | 20:48 |
| CosmoHill | hi ali1234 | 20:48 |
| ali1234 | by similar means same CPU, same default OS, same type of flash memory where root is installed | 20:49 |
| joseluis_ | vivaldi tablet is similar to this tablet | 20:49 |
| ali1234 | and then you will still probably need to change a few things | 20:49 |
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| ali1234 | you better be aware of how to unbrick it too if you are breaking new ground so to speak | 20:49 |
| CosmoHill | I wonder if i could run mer on a chomebook | 20:50 |
| joseluis_ | ahh ok | 20:51 |
| ali1234 | also mer is more of a toolkit than an end product | 20:52 |
| ali1234 | you probably want one of the child projects unless you want to put together your whole distro | 20:52 |
| joseluis_ | ok | 20:52 |
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| ali1234 | see https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Main_Page | 20:53 |
| ali1234 | "End Users" section | 20:53 |
| joseluis_ | I really want to install Plasma Active, I don't like Android | 20:54 |
| ali1234 | http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Installation | 20:54 |
| ali1234 | has links for various tablets | 20:54 |
| ali1234 | try to find something similar to yours | 20:54 |
| joseluis_ | ok thank you very much | 20:55 |
| ali1234 | you'll probably need a custom kernel and other tweaks | 20:55 |
| ali1234 | ooo nexus 7. i should try that at some point :) | 20:55 |
| joseluis_ | ok | 20:56 |
| joseluis_ | and | 20:56 |
| CosmoHill | if i were to get a tablet I'd install something else | 20:56 |
| ali1234 | i have to say android is pretty good | 20:56 |
| CosmoHill | I don't like it where you need to register to download free stuff | 20:56 |
| ali1234 | i do love google services too though | 20:56 |
| ali1234 | it's more about that i guess | 20:57 |
| CosmoHill | i only use google maps and google at work | 20:57 |
| ali1234 | what about youtube? | 20:57 |
| joseluis_ | I don't like java, android is based on java, I like kde or html5 | 20:57 |
| ali1234 | you won't find a better youtube app than the android one | 20:58 |
| joseluis_ | Qt and html are pretty good | 20:59 |
| joseluis_ | html5 | 20:59 |
| ali1234 | i really don't care what it is written with as long as it works... | 20:59 |
| ali1234 | Qt is available on android now btw | 21:00 |
| ali1234 | it's even in the appstore | 21:00 |
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| joseluis_ | is Qt native on android? | 21:01 |
| joseluis_ | o is only a binding? | 21:02 |
| ali1234 | native | 21:02 |
| ali1234 | you can use C++ or QML | 21:02 |
| joseluis_ | but | 21:02 |
| joseluis_ | the android's sdk is based on java | 21:03 |
| ali1234 | you don't have to use it | 21:03 |
| ali1234 | you can use the NDK instead | 21:03 |
| joseluis_ | how I can use c++ | 21:03 |
| joseluis_ | ? | 21:03 |
| joseluis_ | aahh | 21:03 |
| ali1234 | http://developer.android.com/tools/sdk/ndk/index.html | 21:03 |
| joseluis_ | I don't know this | 21:04 |
| ali1234 | you didn't think when they ported GTA3, they rewrote the entire game in java? | 21:04 |
| joseluis_ | in Android web page only offers sdk based on java | 21:05 |
| ali1234 | java is more than enough for most apps | 21:06 |
| ali1234 | it's not even really java anyway | 21:06 |
| joseluis_ | aah ok | 21:07 |
| joseluis_ | I understand | 21:07 |
| ali1234 | any more than QML is ajax | 21:07 |
| joseluis_ | really is Dalvin virtual macheni | 21:09 |
| joseluis_ | machine | 21:09 |
| joseluis_ | not java | 21:09 |
| joseluis_ | but source code is written in java | 21:10 |
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| CosmoHill | night night | 22:31 |
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