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Stskeepzseems like a phost went down05:25
Stskeepzexpect problems on: githook, mer CI05:26
xavinux_:(05:27
Stskeepzlbt_: ^ when you wake up05:28
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lbt_NOTICE: webhook has been down for a few hours - bringing it back now09:19
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kostolalbt: ping10:09
lbtpong10:09
kostolahi10:09
kostolawhat is the URL to access build.merproject.org via OSC?10:09
kostolathe api url10:09
Stskeepzapi.10:13
Stskeepzlbt: how bad was phost2?10:14
lbtkostola: https://api.merproject.org10:16
lbtStskeepz: hw reset and then some vms needed a manual start10:16
lbtwebhook didn't properly start httpd on boot too10:16
lbtno idea why10:17
lbtno idea why it went down I mean10:17
kostolaStskeepz, lbt: thanks ;)10:20
kostolait's working10:20
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Stskeepzlbt: ok, will ceck if.mds came up on ci wheb home10:24
lbtStskeepz: does that run on fe ?10:24
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Venemo_N9Stskeepz, new and trendy nick?13:59
Stskeepzvery14:00
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Venemo_N9Stskeeps, nah, Stskeepz was fine!14:00
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UninstallStskeeps: ping15:11
StskeepsUninstall: mm ppong15:11
UninstallStskeeps: just one question: do you know how to ask OBS to fetch required tar.bz2?15:11
Stskeepsin sense of..?15:12
Uninstall(I mean tar.bz2 referenced in my .spec file)15:12
Stskeepsyou may be able to accomplish it with obs services15:12
UninstallStskeeps: I have a package on OBS, it references on Sources0 a certain URL15:12
Uninstallwhere it can download source files15:12
Uninstall(a tar.bz2 file)15:12
Uninstallwhat I need to do?15:12
Stskeepsyes - that doesn't happen automagically15:13
Uninstallit doesn't happen to me15:13
Stskeepsyou have to grab the file yourself, the http is a guidance to where to get the source originally15:13
Stskeepsand upload it into obs15:13
UninstallStskeeps: uh15:14
Uninstallyou mean that is ignored, right?15:14
Stskeepsyes15:14
Stskeepsonly part used in rpm building is the last part, the filename15:15
UninstallStskeeps: can I do this from command line?15:15
Stskeepswget it manually, osc add..?15:15
UninstallStskeeps: doesn't that command make osc repository heavier?15:16
Stskeepsthat's how it is :)15:16
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Stskeepsthere's better solutions than that, like obs services, but a bit tougher topic15:16
UninstallStskeeps: any link to documentation?15:17
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StskeepsUninstall: on opensuse's obs site15:23
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UninstallStskeeps: it seems that it doesn't avoid to keep tar.bz2 on OBS server15:24
Uninstallthat is what I want to avoid15:24
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Uninstallkeeping all that stuff on a different server15:24
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lbtUninstall: OBS keeps all sources locally - think of it as a cache15:36
Uninstalllbt: I see15:37
lbthow you choose to use those sources is up to you15:37
lbtie if you regard them as master or just a copy15:37
lbtnowadays we tend to use git services a lot15:37
Uninstalllbt: I would like to tell somehow to download tar.bz2 from a different server (that I've called distfiles)15:38
lbton which OBS ?15:38
Uninstallduring the build server15:38
Uninstallour company build service15:38
lbtok - so you should use the tarball service15:38
Uninstalllbt: I work with kostola and drf___15:38
lbt:)15:39
lbthttp://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Build_Service_Concept_SourceService15:39
Uninstalllbt: are those files added to the repository?15:39
UninstallI would really like to use not to much disk space on OBS machine15:40
lbtah - that's not going to happen :)15:40
lbtit eats disk space :)15:40
lbtbut it's so cheap now it isn't a big deal15:40
Uninstalllbt: I see15:40
lbthowever that's not a complete answer15:40
lbtthe package will contain a _service file - but OBS will cache the pulled tarbal15:41
UninstallI don't mind if it gets cached15:41
Uninstallit would ok for me if I can periodically flush the cache15:42
Uninstalland remove everything from it15:42
lbtno, you can't15:42
Uninstalldman15:42
Uninstall*damn15:42
lbtit stores all revisions15:42
UninstalldamnĀ²15:42
lbtwell - I say "can't" ... this is opensource... you can modify it15:42
Uninstalllbt: right, but maintaining it would be a nightmare15:43
Uninstallcan I create some kind of hook used during package build process?15:43
lbtwouldn't it be easier to spend a few euros on a new disk?15:43
Uninstalllbt: we need to keep published packages sources for 7 years15:44
Uninstallif we do that for each revision15:44
lbtuse git15:44
lbtand pristine tar15:45
Uninstalllbt: git isn't goot for binaries files15:45
Uninstalland I would keep using vanilla tarballs15:45
Uninstallas they are released15:45
lbtyep15:46
lbtpristine tar is designed for that purpose15:46
Uninstalllbt: any link to documentation?15:46
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lbtas it happens we have git-pkg in mer-tools which uses it15:46
lbthttps://github.com/mer-tools/git-pkg15:47
lbthttp://joeyh.name/code/pristine-tar/15:47
lbtessentally it unpacks each version to git15:48
Uninstallok, that would be better for sure but the idea to manage bin files with git makes me sad15:48
lbtuses git to efficiently store changes (and be useful)15:48
Uninstallin KDE we still use SVN to avoid to use git and binaries together ;)15:48
lbtit also stores a binary delta (often ~0 bytes) to recreate the md5sum of the tarball15:48
Uninstall(for some projects)15:48
lbtwhat do you mean by binaries?15:49
lbtimages?15:49
lbtgif/png15:49
lbtor tarballs15:49
Uninstalllbt: they can be images of huge and horrible binary blobs15:49
lbtO15:49
lbtOK15:50
lbtI thought we were talking about tarballs - when you get onto blobs it does change15:50
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Uninstalllbt: so do you know how to run some kind of script before a package is built?15:52
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lbtcasually, no15:53
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lbtI'm still not 100% sure of your needs15:53
lbt7 year storage15:53
lbton-demand src recovery from a server which is not obs source server15:53
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Uninstalllbt: exactly15:54
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UninstallI just want to download from a certain server files that are specified on Source[0-9]: lines15:54
lbtevery build15:55
Uninstallevery build is ok for me15:55
UninstallI don't mind if they get cached15:55
lbtsource service then15:55
Uninstallbut I would like to be able to remove all that stuff when needed15:55
Uninstalland to keep all of them only on our distfiles server15:56
lbtand investigate purging old revisions15:56
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lbtsource service to use distfiles server is totally trivial15:56
lbtcleaning up the 'cache' is harder but should be doable15:57
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Uninstallok16:00
UninstallI will spend just few more minutes to understand if it is possible to execute some scripts before rpmbuild16:01
lbtthe workers are designed to have no network16:01
lbtso it has to happen on the source service16:01
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Uninstalllbt: by the way I don't see any example of source service that uses Source[0-9]:16:04
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lbtno - you'd have to write one - but it's really easy16:04
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Uninstalllbt: is it possible to have a project wide service file?16:07
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lbtas it stands that wouldn't make sense16:10
lbtthe _service file contains the information about what to recover16:10
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Uninstalllbt: is it possibile to have a x86_64 toolchain instead of old plain i58616:47
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Stskeepslbt: two packages left and we can do a prerelease17:39
* lbt going out soon ... will get ready17:39
Stskeepsno problem, expected you'd be at tango actually17:39
lbtsoon :)17:40
lbtrelease next wed?17:40
Stskeepsthink we can do it a bit earlier tbh17:41
Stskeepslet's make it tuesday latest, probably earlier17:41
lbti'm in hel all day tue - travelling monday pm17:41
Stskeepsyeah, ok17:41
Stskeepswed then17:41
lbtmeh - if we set the date to tue then we may slip a day17:42
lbtah, this is 0.20130703.0.2 ... I forgot we'd not done that one17:44
Stskeepsnod17:44
lbtwell - I'm ready to run it - will check here before I leave17:45
lbtjust cleaned out some old pre-releases from may17:45
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lbtStskeeps: looks done to me ...17:59
Stskeepslbt: yes17:59
Stskeepsgo for it17:59
lbtrunning17:59
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