Friday, 2013-06-07

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pavelm2hello, everyone.00:31
pavelm2just installed nemo on n900...00:31
pavelm2...and it is pretty impresive.00:32
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lbtmorning all08:31
GentSirlbt, long time no see08:32
GentSirMorning mate08:32
lbtGentSir: hey08:32
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GentSirI must ask, do you have any input on the design of the Jolla, or are you strictly in software/mer stuff?08:33
GentSirJust curious08:33
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lbtoh, all our users have input :)08:34
GentSirOne more question, were you formerly a lawyer or politician?08:34
lbtobviously those of us who work there get to see more and say more - but we pass on opinions too08:34
lbthehe08:34
Bostikeveryone is equal, some more equal than others08:35
GentSirYou guys managed to both disappoint and give me great hope with that Other Half concept08:35
lbtso I'm designing (and writing) the Sailfish SDK - so I get a lot of say there - not so much in the hardware or UI design since thats not my area08:35
GentSirI should probably update my sdk08:36
lbtSailfish one hasn't changed since launch - the next version will support updates08:36
GentSirOh, I'm good then08:37
GentSirSadly, I've been occupied with Real Life concerns and haven't made much progress on my app I was designing08:37
GentSirBut I intend on getting my hands on a device asap08:39
lbtgood - you've ordered one?08:39
GentSirI'm a US resident, doing so directly is not an option for me08:40
lbtah yes08:40
GentSirAs soon as pre-orders start in China I'm going to get one from there08:40
GentSirI know working with the American carrier system is a huge pain08:42
lbtoh yes08:47
cybetteand China payment systems are a pita too08:48
dcthanglbt so we have the device for sailfish?08:48
lbtdcthang: well, *we* do ... not sure about you lot :D :D08:48
GentSirI'm jealous now08:49
dcthangok :)08:49
GentSirAs it'll probably be years before I can easily acquire one here, if at all08:50
GentSirBut I understand the issues with that08:50
Stskeepslbt: i have an upgraded git for mer-tools:devel - the original package was not git-pkged (and is from summer last year), changes are tarball upgrade + version change + more clobbering of SVN + contrib/subtree installation, can i just SR so we're not stuck on an ancient version?09:03
lbtno I git-pkg'ed it09:06
Stskeepswhy is it then not _service'd in :devel?09:06
lbtI almost certainly got caught up doing something else and didn't finish it09:07
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lbtshow me your changes and I'll import them09:07
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Stskeepssure, though in a moment09:08
Stskeepshttps://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=git&project=home%3Astskeeps%3Abranches%3Amer-tools%3Adevel looks.. funny09:08
Stskeepsah, i see09:12
Stskeepslatest_i586 is disabled, never mind me09:12
Stskeepsanyway, that's the one09:13
lbtok09:16
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lbtdoes osc have a 'just get this src file from that pkg'09:18
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lbtphaeron: ^^09:19
phaeronlbt: osc api /source/project/package/file afair09:20
Stskeepswasn't there a osc cat too?09:20
lbtStskeeps: that's it - ty09:21
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lbtand now sb2 init just fails silentl09:36
lbty09:36
Stskeepsmm?09:36
lbtoh bollocks - I'm in git mode ... so I run sb2 init09:37
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lbtInstallation of libsb2-2.3.90-1.1.10 failed:09:44
lbt(with --nodeps --force) Error: Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/lib/libsb2/libsb2.so.1;51b1ab5a: cpio: symlink failed - No such file or directory09:44
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lbtStskeeps: that ^^ is stopping me updating git09:47
lbtI'm not going down another rabbit hole just at the moment so it's on hold09:48
lbtI have your changes though09:48
Stskeepslbt: give me more context - what packages was tried to be upgraded?09:48
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lbtit was kinda FYI - do you want to look at now?09:49
lbtessentially a new vanilla mer-i486 target09:49
lbtadded mer-tools :devel repo and zypper ref; then added a few pkgs.09:50
lbthit /sbin/ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denied09:50
lbtso in the sb2 I did zypper in libsb209:50
Stskeepsok, did you use sb2 -R -m sdk-install for the zyppering?09:50
Stskeepsif yes, i'll look at it later today, if no, please do :P09:51
lbtyes09:51
Stskeepsok09:51
lbtmismatch between sdk sb2 and target sb2 ?09:51
Stskeepsdepends, rpm -q --info scratchbox2 on sdk side? [last question, i'll work on that later today then]09:52
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lbtsdk(host) scratchbox2-2.3.90-1.1.9.i486  http://pastie.org/801845809:54
lbtI think it's possibly rules09:55
lbtsince /usr/lib/libsb2 is not present in the target09:55
lbtbut I can ls it09:55
Stskeepsok, ship me the target somehow and i'll hack about; it may entirely be that scratchbox2 wasn't in target in first place, you know, the i486 problem09:56
lbtit wasn't09:56
lbtI thought it just needed libsb2 now09:56
Stskeepsit should; anyway: rabbit hole09:56
* Stskeeps has other things to do atm, and so do you09:56
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lbthttp://pastie.org/8018467 fyi09:57
Stskeepsok, and .ks for target if entirely possible09:58
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lbthttp://pastie.org/801847810:02
Stskeepsok, i have a theory but will work on it later today10:04
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lbtrun on 30/may fyi10:04
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pavelmHello, everyone.11:29
Stskeepshello11:29
pavelmI got mer/nemo to work on n900.. and it is pretty impressive.11:30
pavelmOne question before I dig further: does it contain any non-free components?11:30
Stskeepsyes - ARM hardware adaptations typically does11:31
Stskeepsopengl es, etc11:31
Stskeepsbut all redistributable for non commercial purposes11:31
pavelmIs there convenient list somewhere?11:32
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pavelm(I guess it still has less non-free stuff than original maemo, right?)11:33
Stskeepscorrect11:33
Stskeepsit's just in the hw adaptation11:33
Stskeepspavelm: https://build.merproject.org/project/packages?project=nemo%3Adevel%3Ahw%3Ati%3Aomap3%3An900 - peek through those and https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=nemo%3Adevel%3Ahw%3Ati%3Aomap3%3An9xx-common11:33
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pavelmI'd like to get it working on top of custom kernel (3.9 based), so the hw adaptation matters...11:34
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pavelm...does it mean even GPS has chance of working...? That would be cool.11:36
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Stskeepsit doesn't :/11:37
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Stskeepslbt: OK, looking into the .ks issue13:26
lbt*nod*13:26
lbtstill trying to unblock things here13:27
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Stskeepslbt: i'm still pretty sure i'll find it's "just" the i486 host issue13:28
Stskeepslbt: output of 'sb2-init' please13:29
lbthttp://pastie.org/801924013:30
* Stskeeps puts on tubular bells and starts digging13:30
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lbtit could just be that libsb2 should be preinstalled in the target - not installed after13:33
Stskeepsyes, that's the theory i'm sorting out atm13:34
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Stskeepsuhh..13:38
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Stskeepslbt: ok, something is not right13:46
Stskeepslbt: did you ever figure out the ldconfig issue and ld.so.conf?13:46
lbtsec - tagging something13:47
lbtvague feeling it was blamed on this libsb2 being needed13:49
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Stskeepsnah, i see it still13:51
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lbtI agree - I meant I thought libsb2 was supposed to fix it13:52
Stskeepsyes13:52
lbtso I was digging and left it as libsb2 should have resolved it13:52
Stskeepskaltsi: ^ something for you later on, i think13:53
lbtmy suspicion is libsb2 needs host-side rules update too13:53
Stskeepsthis is a real mystery13:53
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kaltsieek13:53
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Stskeepsstill happens with libsb2 installed from start in host13:54
Stskeepser, in target13:54
kaltsithe sb2 mode needed to be modified in order to update scratchbox2 inside the target13:57
kaltsibut I'll check the webapp thing quickly and then see this13:58
lbtty14:00
lbtStskeeps: http://repo.merproject.org/obs/mer-tools:/devel/latest_i486/noarch/sdk-sb2-config-0.39-1.8.1.noarch.rpm14:01
Stskeepswhat about it?14:01
lbtinstall that to your SDK to see14:01
* Stskeeps installs14:01
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Stskeeps (with --nodeps --force) Error: Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/bin/sb2-qemu-gdbserver-prepare: cpio: rename failed - Read-only file system14:02
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kaltsiStskeeps: which mode?14:02
kaltsiI changed sdk-install mode14:02
StskeepsMerSDK [carsten@ideapad projects]$ sb2 -t mer-tools-i486 -m sdk-install -R zypper install scratchbox214:03
kaltsishould only be libs214:03
kaltsilibsb2, not scratchbox214:03
Stskeepsyeah, scratchbox2 has problems too14:03
lbtStskeeps: that rpm was for the SDK, not target?14:03
Stskeepsand libsb2 was already installed14:03
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Stskeepslbt: yes, it was put into sdk14:03
kaltsiwhere do I start, how do I reproduce it here?14:04
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Stskeepskaltsi: http://pastie.org/8018478 plus libsb2 in %packages14:04
Stskeeps(to leave out 'i486' effects)14:04
Stskeepsand then try to install scratchbox214:04
Stskeepswhich errors in fakeroot and that14:04
Stskeepshttp://pastie.org/801924014:05
kaltsiok but why do you want scratchbox2 there afterwards? ..14:06
Stskeepsi'm fairly certain upgrading libsb2 will yield similar issue14:07
Stskeepsok, upgrading libsb2 is fine14:07
kaltsiI broke scratchbox2 to scratchbox2 and libsb2 so that libsb2 could be installed to the i486 target and upgraded there (in sdk-install mode).. scratchbox2 should never be installed to the target14:08
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Stskeepsok14:08
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kaltsidoes this change anything or is there something still to look at?14:11
Stskeepsi guess that sorts out the libsb2 upgrade issue14:12
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kaltsipreviously it was also so that the scratchbox2 package could not be upgraded because of the readonly filesystem errors14:12
Stskeepsok14:12
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lbtStskeeps: http://pastie.org/801955814:51
* lbt takes remote control from his ear and picks up phone ... should get a better connection14:53
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lbtkaltsi: that ^^ pastie is for you too15:11
kaltsiI'll try it.. do I use latest mer release?15:14
lbtCore repos point at version: 0.20130605.115:15
lbtof course it's probably got random stuff installed too :)15:16
lbtlike sb2 rules from :devel15:16
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kaltsiwhere do I get msgfmt?15:20
kaltsigettext15:21
kaltsiok msgfmt works for me.. let's see if I update the s2b mode rules15:22
kaltsilbt: how do I easily get sb2 rules from :devel?15:24
lbtrpm -U http://repo.merproject.org/obs/mer-tools:/devel/latest_i486/noarch/sdk-sb2-config-0.39-1.8.1.noarch.rpm15:25
kaltsity15:25
kaltsistill works for me15:26
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lbtgrrr15:28
kaltsihmm I don't even have those libgettextsrc-0.18.1.so in the target? so what else should I install there15:29
lbtgetext afaik15:29
kaltsigettext?15:30
kaltsiI have zypper in gettext, which brings in: gettext-0.18.1.1-1.1.18.i48615:30
kaltsioh it has the files, but ldconfig -p does not list them15:31
lbtgettext-0.18.1.1-1.1.18.i48615:31
lbtsb2 -t mer-tools-i486 -R -m sdk-install rpm -ql gettext15:32
lbt(contains no files)15:32
lbt!!15:32
Merbotlbt: Error: "!" is not a valid command.15:32
kaltsithe -devel has all the files15:32
kaltsirpm -ql gettext-devel15:32
lbterm15:32
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lbtok - I thought gettext was tools15:33
kaltsiI only have mer-core there15:33
Stskeepsgettext is coer15:33
lbtyep15:33
lbtpackaging split is not what I'd expect - but I don't know the tool15:34
Stskeepsthink emacs15:34
Stskeeps:P15:34
lbtbut git BuildRequires getext, not getext-devel15:34
lbtplease say getext doesn't require getext-devel15:35
kaltsizypper in gettext (it's gettext, not getext) :) pulls in gettext-devel15:44
lbtfigures - :/15:45
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kaltsirpm -q --queryformat '[%{REQUIRES}\n]' gettext15:45
kaltsigettext-devel15:45
lbtyeah - not complaining - just find it unusual15:45
lbtbut maybe since you link against it and it has no standalone component it makes sense15:46
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lbtin any case my target is broken :)15:46
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lbtlooks like sb2 is pretty broken :/18:22
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Stskeepshmm?18:24
lbtwell - something is18:25
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lbtnm ... will see tomorrow ...tango tonight :)18:27
CosmoHilltomorrow is Sprite Saturday?18:29
CosmoHillfollowed by 7up sunday?18:30
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CosmoHillnightnight22:54
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