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| pavelm2 | hello, everyone. | 00:31 |
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| pavelm2 | just installed nemo on n900... | 00:31 |
| pavelm2 | ...and it is pretty impresive. | 00:32 |
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| lbt | morning all | 08:31 |
| GentSir | lbt, long time no see | 08:32 |
| GentSir | Morning mate | 08:32 |
| lbt | GentSir: hey | 08:32 |
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| GentSir | I must ask, do you have any input on the design of the Jolla, or are you strictly in software/mer stuff? | 08:33 |
| GentSir | Just curious | 08:33 |
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| lbt | oh, all our users have input :) | 08:34 |
| GentSir | One more question, were you formerly a lawyer or politician? | 08:34 |
| lbt | obviously those of us who work there get to see more and say more - but we pass on opinions too | 08:34 |
| lbt | hehe | 08:34 |
| Bostik | everyone is equal, some more equal than others | 08:35 |
| GentSir | You guys managed to both disappoint and give me great hope with that Other Half concept | 08:35 |
| lbt | so I'm designing (and writing) the Sailfish SDK - so I get a lot of say there - not so much in the hardware or UI design since thats not my area | 08:35 |
| GentSir | I should probably update my sdk | 08:36 |
| lbt | Sailfish one hasn't changed since launch - the next version will support updates | 08:36 |
| GentSir | Oh, I'm good then | 08:37 |
| GentSir | Sadly, I've been occupied with Real Life concerns and haven't made much progress on my app I was designing | 08:37 |
| GentSir | But I intend on getting my hands on a device asap | 08:39 |
| lbt | good - you've ordered one? | 08:39 |
| GentSir | I'm a US resident, doing so directly is not an option for me | 08:40 |
| lbt | ah yes | 08:40 |
| GentSir | As soon as pre-orders start in China I'm going to get one from there | 08:40 |
| GentSir | I know working with the American carrier system is a huge pain | 08:42 |
| lbt | oh yes | 08:47 |
| cybette | and China payment systems are a pita too | 08:48 |
| dcthang | lbt so we have the device for sailfish? | 08:48 |
| lbt | dcthang: well, *we* do ... not sure about you lot :D :D | 08:48 |
| GentSir | I'm jealous now | 08:49 |
| dcthang | ok :) | 08:49 |
| GentSir | As it'll probably be years before I can easily acquire one here, if at all | 08:50 |
| GentSir | But I understand the issues with that | 08:50 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i have an upgraded git for mer-tools:devel - the original package was not git-pkged (and is from summer last year), changes are tarball upgrade + version change + more clobbering of SVN + contrib/subtree installation, can i just SR so we're not stuck on an ancient version? | 09:03 |
| lbt | no I git-pkg'ed it | 09:06 |
| Stskeeps | why is it then not _service'd in :devel? | 09:06 |
| lbt | I almost certainly got caught up doing something else and didn't finish it | 09:07 |
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| lbt | show me your changes and I'll import them | 09:07 |
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| Stskeeps | sure, though in a moment | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | https://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=git&project=home%3Astskeeps%3Abranches%3Amer-tools%3Adevel looks.. funny | 09:08 |
| Stskeeps | ah, i see | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | latest_i586 is disabled, never mind me | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | anyway, that's the one | 09:13 |
| lbt | ok | 09:16 |
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| lbt | does osc have a 'just get this src file from that pkg' | 09:18 |
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| lbt | phaeron: ^^ | 09:19 |
| phaeron | lbt: osc api /source/project/package/file afair | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | wasn't there a osc cat too? | 09:20 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: that's it - ty | 09:21 |
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| lbt | and now sb2 init just fails silentl | 09:36 |
| lbt | y | 09:36 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 09:36 |
| lbt | oh bollocks - I'm in git mode ... so I run sb2 init | 09:37 |
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| lbt | Installation of libsb2-2.3.90-1.1.10 failed: | 09:44 |
| lbt | (with --nodeps --force) Error: Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/lib/libsb2/libsb2.so.1;51b1ab5a: cpio: symlink failed - No such file or directory | 09:44 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: that ^^ is stopping me updating git | 09:47 |
| lbt | I'm not going down another rabbit hole just at the moment so it's on hold | 09:48 |
| lbt | I have your changes though | 09:48 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: give me more context - what packages was tried to be upgraded? | 09:48 |
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| lbt | it was kinda FYI - do you want to look at now? | 09:49 |
| lbt | essentially a new vanilla mer-i486 target | 09:49 |
| lbt | added mer-tools :devel repo and zypper ref; then added a few pkgs. | 09:50 |
| lbt | hit /sbin/ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denied | 09:50 |
| lbt | so in the sb2 I did zypper in libsb2 | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok, did you use sb2 -R -m sdk-install for the zyppering? | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | if yes, i'll look at it later today, if no, please do :P | 09:51 |
| lbt | yes | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 09:51 |
| lbt | mismatch between sdk sb2 and target sb2 ? | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | depends, rpm -q --info scratchbox2 on sdk side? [last question, i'll work on that later today then] | 09:52 |
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| lbt | sdk(host) scratchbox2-2.3.90-1.1.9.i486 http://pastie.org/8018458 | 09:54 |
| lbt | I think it's possibly rules | 09:55 |
| lbt | since /usr/lib/libsb2 is not present in the target | 09:55 |
| lbt | but I can ls it | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | ok, ship me the target somehow and i'll hack about; it may entirely be that scratchbox2 wasn't in target in first place, you know, the i486 problem | 09:56 |
| lbt | it wasn't | 09:56 |
| lbt | I thought it just needed libsb2 now | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | it should; anyway: rabbit hole | 09:56 |
| * Stskeeps has other things to do atm, and so do you | 09:56 | |
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| lbt | http://pastie.org/8018467 fyi | 09:57 |
| Stskeeps | ok, and .ks for target if entirely possible | 09:58 |
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| lbt | http://pastie.org/8018478 | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | ok, i have a theory but will work on it later today | 10:04 |
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| lbt | run on 30/may fyi | 10:04 |
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| pavelm | Hello, everyone. | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | hello | 11:29 |
| pavelm | I got mer/nemo to work on n900.. and it is pretty impressive. | 11:30 |
| pavelm | One question before I dig further: does it contain any non-free components? | 11:30 |
| Stskeeps | yes - ARM hardware adaptations typically does | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | opengl es, etc | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | but all redistributable for non commercial purposes | 11:31 |
| pavelm | Is there convenient list somewhere? | 11:32 |
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| pavelm | (I guess it still has less non-free stuff than original maemo, right?) | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | correct | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | it's just in the hw adaptation | 11:33 |
| Stskeeps | pavelm: https://build.merproject.org/project/packages?project=nemo%3Adevel%3Ahw%3Ati%3Aomap3%3An900 - peek through those and https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=nemo%3Adevel%3Ahw%3Ati%3Aomap3%3An9xx-common | 11:33 |
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| pavelm | I'd like to get it working on top of custom kernel (3.9 based), so the hw adaptation matters... | 11:34 |
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| pavelm | ...does it mean even GPS has chance of working...? That would be cool. | 11:36 |
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| Stskeeps | it doesn't :/ | 11:37 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: OK, looking into the .ks issue | 13:26 |
| lbt | *nod* | 13:26 |
| lbt | still trying to unblock things here | 13:27 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: i'm still pretty sure i'll find it's "just" the i486 host issue | 13:28 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: output of 'sb2-init' please | 13:29 |
| lbt | http://pastie.org/8019240 | 13:30 |
| * Stskeeps puts on tubular bells and starts digging | 13:30 | |
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| lbt | it could just be that libsb2 should be preinstalled in the target - not installed after | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | yes, that's the theory i'm sorting out atm | 13:34 |
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| Stskeeps | uhh.. | 13:38 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: ok, something is not right | 13:46 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: did you ever figure out the ldconfig issue and ld.so.conf? | 13:46 |
| lbt | sec - tagging something | 13:47 |
| lbt | vague feeling it was blamed on this libsb2 being needed | 13:49 |
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| Stskeeps | nah, i see it still | 13:51 |
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| lbt | I agree - I meant I thought libsb2 was supposed to fix it | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 13:52 |
| lbt | so I was digging and left it as libsb2 should have resolved it | 13:52 |
| Stskeeps | kaltsi: ^ something for you later on, i think | 13:53 |
| lbt | my suspicion is libsb2 needs host-side rules update too | 13:53 |
| Stskeeps | this is a real mystery | 13:53 |
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| kaltsi | eek | 13:53 |
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| Stskeeps | still happens with libsb2 installed from start in host | 13:54 |
| Stskeeps | er, in target | 13:54 |
| kaltsi | the sb2 mode needed to be modified in order to update scratchbox2 inside the target | 13:57 |
| kaltsi | but I'll check the webapp thing quickly and then see this | 13:58 |
| lbt | ty | 14:00 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: http://repo.merproject.org/obs/mer-tools:/devel/latest_i486/noarch/sdk-sb2-config-0.39-1.8.1.noarch.rpm | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | what about it? | 14:01 |
| lbt | install that to your SDK to see | 14:01 |
| * Stskeeps installs | 14:01 | |
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| Stskeeps | (with --nodeps --force) Error: Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/bin/sb2-qemu-gdbserver-prepare: cpio: rename failed - Read-only file system | 14:02 |
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| kaltsi | Stskeeps: which mode? | 14:02 |
| kaltsi | I changed sdk-install mode | 14:02 |
| Stskeeps | MerSDK [carsten@ideapad projects]$ sb2 -t mer-tools-i486 -m sdk-install -R zypper install scratchbox2 | 14:03 |
| kaltsi | should only be libs2 | 14:03 |
| kaltsi | libsb2, not scratchbox2 | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, scratchbox2 has problems too | 14:03 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: that rpm was for the SDK, not target? | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | and libsb2 was already installed | 14:03 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: yes, it was put into sdk | 14:03 |
| kaltsi | where do I start, how do I reproduce it here? | 14:04 |
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| Stskeeps | kaltsi: http://pastie.org/8018478 plus libsb2 in %packages | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | (to leave out 'i486' effects) | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | and then try to install scratchbox2 | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | which errors in fakeroot and that | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | http://pastie.org/8019240 | 14:05 |
| kaltsi | ok but why do you want scratchbox2 there afterwards? .. | 14:06 |
| Stskeeps | i'm fairly certain upgrading libsb2 will yield similar issue | 14:07 |
| Stskeeps | ok, upgrading libsb2 is fine | 14:07 |
| kaltsi | I broke scratchbox2 to scratchbox2 and libsb2 so that libsb2 could be installed to the i486 target and upgraded there (in sdk-install mode).. scratchbox2 should never be installed to the target | 14:08 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 14:08 |
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| kaltsi | does this change anything or is there something still to look at? | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | i guess that sorts out the libsb2 upgrade issue | 14:12 |
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| kaltsi | previously it was also so that the scratchbox2 package could not be upgraded because of the readonly filesystem errors | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 14:12 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/8019558 | 14:51 |
| * lbt takes remote control from his ear and picks up phone ... should get a better connection | 14:53 | |
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| lbt | kaltsi: that ^^ pastie is for you too | 15:11 |
| kaltsi | I'll try it.. do I use latest mer release? | 15:14 |
| lbt | Core repos point at version: 0.20130605.1 | 15:15 |
| lbt | of course it's probably got random stuff installed too :) | 15:16 |
| lbt | like sb2 rules from :devel | 15:16 |
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| kaltsi | where do I get msgfmt? | 15:20 |
| kaltsi | gettext | 15:21 |
| kaltsi | ok msgfmt works for me.. let's see if I update the s2b mode rules | 15:22 |
| kaltsi | lbt: how do I easily get sb2 rules from :devel? | 15:24 |
| lbt | rpm -U http://repo.merproject.org/obs/mer-tools:/devel/latest_i486/noarch/sdk-sb2-config-0.39-1.8.1.noarch.rpm | 15:25 |
| kaltsi | ty | 15:25 |
| kaltsi | still works for me | 15:26 |
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| lbt | grrr | 15:28 |
| kaltsi | hmm I don't even have those libgettextsrc-0.18.1.so in the target? so what else should I install there | 15:29 |
| lbt | getext afaik | 15:29 |
| kaltsi | gettext? | 15:30 |
| kaltsi | I have zypper in gettext, which brings in: gettext-0.18.1.1-1.1.18.i486 | 15:30 |
| kaltsi | oh it has the files, but ldconfig -p does not list them | 15:31 |
| lbt | gettext-0.18.1.1-1.1.18.i486 | 15:31 |
| lbt | sb2 -t mer-tools-i486 -R -m sdk-install rpm -ql gettext | 15:32 |
| lbt | (contains no files) | 15:32 |
| lbt | !! | 15:32 |
| Merbot | lbt: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 15:32 |
| kaltsi | the -devel has all the files | 15:32 |
| kaltsi | rpm -ql gettext-devel | 15:32 |
| lbt | erm | 15:32 |
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| lbt | ok - I thought gettext was tools | 15:33 |
| kaltsi | I only have mer-core there | 15:33 |
| Stskeeps | gettext is coer | 15:33 |
| lbt | yep | 15:33 |
| lbt | packaging split is not what I'd expect - but I don't know the tool | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | think emacs | 15:34 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:34 |
| lbt | but git BuildRequires getext, not getext-devel | 15:34 |
| lbt | please say getext doesn't require getext-devel | 15:35 |
| kaltsi | zypper in gettext (it's gettext, not getext) :) pulls in gettext-devel | 15:44 |
| lbt | figures - :/ | 15:45 |
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| kaltsi | rpm -q --queryformat '[%{REQUIRES}\n]' gettext | 15:45 |
| kaltsi | gettext-devel | 15:45 |
| lbt | yeah - not complaining - just find it unusual | 15:45 |
| lbt | but maybe since you link against it and it has no standalone component it makes sense | 15:46 |
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| lbt | in any case my target is broken :) | 15:46 |
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| lbt | looks like sb2 is pretty broken :/ | 18:22 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm? | 18:24 |
| lbt | well - something is | 18:25 |
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| lbt | nm ... will see tomorrow ...tango tonight :) | 18:27 |
| CosmoHill | tomorrow is Sprite Saturday? | 18:29 |
| CosmoHill | followed by 7up sunday? | 18:30 |
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| CosmoHill | nightnight | 22:54 |
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