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| simonpb | hi folks! :) | 09:24 |
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| simonpb | can anyone tell me in which repository i might find: libqttracker-devel ? mer, nemo, ...? | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | nemo | 09:24 |
| simonpb | Sailfish SDK VM does have this library. But am not able to find it for my VMs. | 09:25 |
| simonpb | thx, wait ill check... | 09:25 |
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| simonpb | i cannot find it here: http://releases.merproject.org/releases/latest/builds/i486/packages/i486/ | 09:26 |
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| simonpb | there are some tracker RPMs under Middleware: http://releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/repos/platform/latest/i486/mw/i486/ | 09:28 |
| simonpb | but no libqttracker-devel | 09:28 |
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| kontio | simonpb: libqttracker is deprecated... it's still in Sailfish SDK, back then it was still in nemo... | 09:31 |
| simonpb | is actually tracker still THE WAY to retrieve music albums etc? | 09:32 |
| kontio | and needed by e.g. buteo-mtp, but that dependency got removed... | 09:32 |
| simonpb | kontio: Aha! deprecated, so what would be the RIGHT way to get music list? | 09:32 |
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| kontio | simonpb: QtSparql should be used to talk to tracker... | 09:33 |
| simonpb | kontio: alright, yes QtSparql is there alright. | 09:34 |
| simonpb | kontio: thank you for the update. BTW, where do i find such information about deprecated packages etc. or what is planne to be deprecated, or used in the near future/ Any page on WIKI? | 09:34 |
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| kontio | simonpb: guess unfortunately there is not central place with such info... or even a planning wiki at that moment... | 09:37 |
| simonpb | kontio: thx! over and out! | 09:39 |
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| joer | hello | 12:01 |
| Stskeeps | wello :) so what brings you here? | 12:01 |
| joer | i'm just reading about mer for my first time | 12:01 |
| joer | i'm not sure what mer SDK is. Can i compare it with android sdk? | 12:02 |
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| Stskeeps | not entirely - mer platform sdk is a tool to help develop mer and mer based systems | 12:02 |
| joer | ok, i will read some more wiki articles and then come back | 12:03 |
| joer | what di you mean with mer based systems. it is like a minimal distribution where you can build an UI on top of it? | 12:12 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 12:12 |
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| joer | are there some examples how to start with make an UI? A example how to start a qml application to draw a black screen. something that will tell me how to start first, when i want to make a mer based system .I own a raspberry pi, is it supported by mer? | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | yes, there's a wiki for that device | 12:18 |
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| joer | could be mer a good choice for building an UI (with window manager, and so on) with qt qml for htpc? | 12:27 |
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| Stskeeps | sure | 12:29 |
| Stskeeps | others have done that before too | 12:30 |
| Stskeeps | car pc for example | 12:30 |
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| joer | does mer sdk have built-in support for ipc like dbus? | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | mer has ipc yes | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | with dbus | 12:31 |
| joer | ok thats good, thank you for your time. i will research some more and not waste your time :) | 12:33 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/libresourceqt.git;a=commit;h=1aef00ac187ee6124bbd1467d8712393116f4013 BOOM! | 12:44 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: do version comparison | 12:45 |
| Sage | it should be +git1.masterSHA + git2.masterSHA etc. | 12:46 |
| Sage | automatic updates fail http://pastie.org/7826688 | 12:46 |
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| Sage | perl update has some badness in it as well | 12:50 |
| Sage | o_0 why is epoch in perl raised from 2 to 4 in normal package update? | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | what's issue with perl? | 12:51 |
| Sage | package dependency issue but haven't tracked it down yet | 12:51 |
| Sage | anyway automatic updates fail on that as well | 12:51 |
| Stskeeps | could you send a fix for libresourceqt? i'm kind of deep in something | 12:52 |
| Sage | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/perl.git;a=blob;f=perl.spec;h=dda891930494ac2bc905ccb426afe24d742dfe75;hb=HEAD#l1264 | 12:54 |
| Sage | perl core package shouldn't really define version | 12:54 |
| Sage | err | 12:55 |
| Stskeeps | right | 12:55 |
| Stskeeps | verify it wasn't like this in past though | 12:56 |
| Sage | perl-core defines Epoch: 0 and perl Epoch: 4 | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | there's a review.merproject.org -> merged to see what changed | 12:56 |
| Sage | perl is epoch mess atm. needs fix | 12:56 |
| Stskeeps | sure, a good time to get it done | 12:57 |
| Stskeeps | (though i can't do it right this instant) | 12:57 |
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| Sage | there are more :) | 12:58 |
| Sage | sensorfw has also update problem and possibly qt5 | 12:59 |
| Stskeeps | qt modules has problems due to ~ issue | 12:59 |
| Sage | ah, sensorfw obsoletes itself :D | 13:02 |
| Sage | http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/sensorfw.git;a=blob;f=sensorfw.spec;h=4b2d00803ad28aee48fc11a0d8a5888bb55fc496;hb=HEAD#l97 | 13:02 |
| Sage | 97 Provides: sensorfw | 13:02 |
| Sage | 98 Obsoletes: sensorfw | 13:02 |
| Sage | what ever that is supposed to do | 13:03 |
| Sage | as sensorfw has still content in it | 13:03 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps a bringover from sensorfw-qt5 | 13:03 |
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| Sage | and perl removes Compress-Zlib package without proper obsoletes/provides | 13:06 |
| Sage | where should libQt5SystemInfo.so.5 be as it seems to be missing | 13:07 |
| Stskeeps | it was removed from being libQt5SystemInfo.so.5 to libQt0SystemInfo.so.0 | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | by upstream | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | stuff like that happens at times | 13:08 |
| Sage | oh | 13:10 |
| Sage | ah, I see also the pkgconfig should require Qt0SystemInfo thus not build and blocks atm. | 13:11 |
| Sage | w00t: https://github.com/nemomobile/libcontentaction/blob/master/rpm/libcontentaction-qt5.spec#L28 ^ | 13:13 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: rest of the qt5 stuff are still libQt5* except that one? | 13:13 |
| w00t | hm | 13:14 |
| w00t | I thought I fixed it already | 13:14 |
| w00t | will fix | 13:14 |
| w00t | hmmph | 13:16 |
| w00t | that's jolla-next, so I can't test build with mb | 13:16 |
| w00t | er mer-next | 13:16 |
| w00t | does anyone have mer-next readily available? i'm interested in the contents of QtSystemInfo's pc | 13:17 |
| w00t | i.e. if it now has an explicit dependency on QtNetwork | 13:17 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: any way I can check? I'd like to remove that hack while I'm at it | 13:22 |
| Stskeeps | releases.merproject.org | 13:23 |
| Stskeeps | rpm2cpio foo.rpm | cpio -idv | 13:23 |
| w00t | http://releases.merproject.org/releases/next/ ? | 13:24 |
| Stskeeps | right | 13:24 |
| Stskeeps | if timestamp looks right | 13:24 |
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| Sage | what is sensorfw-qt4-compat suppoesd to do? | 13:33 |
| Stskeeps | qt4 support for qt5 sensorfw daemon i think | 13:34 |
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| Sage | ljp: ^ | 13:36 |
| Sage | so when is that package supposed to be installed? | 13:36 |
| Sage | currently on update it removes sensorfw package even if qt5 stuff isn't installed. | 13:37 |
| Sage | or tries to | 13:37 |
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| * Sage ponders why perl packaging is such a huge mess | 14:00 | |
| w00t | Sage: who touched it last and when? :D | 14:01 |
| Sage | MerSDK [sage@sage-x230 perl]$ grep exclude *.spec | wc -l | 14:01 |
| Sage | 368 | 14:01 |
| * Sage :facepalm: | 14:01 | |
| Sage | someone liked to use %{exclude} apparently | 14:01 |
| Sage | 2596 perl.spec | 14:03 |
| Sage | over 10% of the spec is something that do not need to be there :) | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | if you cause obs workers to blow up again, i will be upset | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:04 |
| Sage | # FIXME - note this will need to change when doing the core/minimal swizzle | 14:06 |
| Sage | what does that mean? | 14:06 |
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| w00t | Requires: Qt5Core Qt5Network Qt5Gui | 14:08 |
| w00t | \o/ | 14:08 |
| dm8tbr | Sage: swizzle sounds like thingamabob aka 'something' | 14:09 |
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| w00t | Sage: fixed libcontentaction btw | 14:41 |
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| Sage | w00t: thanks | 14:53 |
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| Sage | w00t: where is libresouceqt upstream that we use? | 15:06 |
| Sage | http://meego.gitorious.org/maemo-multimedia/libresourceqt/ this doesn't seem to be it | 15:06 |
| w00t | Sage: https://github.com/mer-packages/libresourceqt | 15:07 |
| Sage | same question for sensorfw | 15:07 |
| Sage | http://gitorious.org/sensorfw doesn't seem to be tat either | 15:07 |
| Stskeeps | /sensorfw | 15:07 |
| Sage | can I ask people to _tag_ new versions ffs :D | 15:08 |
| * Sage fixes urls in packaging | 15:08 | |
| w00t | wouldn't it be great if our releases were tied to tags, so we didn't have one without the other? :p | 15:08 |
| Sage | sry, this perl pakaging is making me a bit tense :) | 15:09 |
| phaeron | w00t: :) | 15:10 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: first onehttp://review.merproject.org/1420 | 15:13 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: first one http://review.merproject.org/1420 | 15:13 |
| Stskeeps | k | 15:14 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: second one http://review.merproject.org/1421 though I'm not 100% sure about this, but should do it for now. | 15:16 |
| Sage | perl will take a bit more time to fix :/ | 15:16 |
| Stskeeps | did you build test them? | 15:16 |
| Sage | https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=home%3Asage%3Abranches%3Amer%3Amds2%3ACore%3Ai586%3Amaster | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | k | 15:17 |
| kaltsi | I wonder what would be the best sb2 build acceleration option for python? Currently it's broken, so I need to write a new rule for it. Should a package explicitly declare that it wants to use accelerated python (export XYZ in spec file) or should it be automatically accelreated if a package buildrequires it? If something fails a package can turn the accel off with another export. | 15:19 |
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| Stskeeps | kaltsi: i kinda like the ability to do export SBOX_REDIRECT_IGNORE= in %if %{?qemu_usermode} | 15:20 |
| kaltsi | that will be possible | 15:21 |
| Stskeeps | then you can indicate "yes, please do this, i declare it's safe" | 15:21 |
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| kaltsi | ok if you want that then I can put in the default rule that: if python in target then check if in tools and accel otherwise use from target.. and that export will override it | 15:22 |
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| * Stskeeps tries to parse that | 15:22 | |
| kaltsi | :) | 15:22 |
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| * Sage doesn't even try | 15:24 | |
| kaltsi | http://pastie.org/7827239 | 15:25 |
| Stskeeps | how about don't accel by default unless overriden? | 15:25 |
| Stskeeps | python isnt safe, it can take in modules | 15:25 |
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| kaltsi | yep that's simple | 15:25 |
| kaltsi | I added the new type of if-exists checking for doxygen now to sb2 | 15:27 |
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| * Sage thinks he got perl fixed | 15:36 | |
| Sage | time for build test | 15:36 |
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| BGF | Hello all | 15:37 |
| BGF | Anybody here willing to help me installing NEMO on n900 emmc ??? | 15:37 |
| Sage | BGF: more topic for #nemomobile channel really. | 15:38 |
| BGF | thanks | 15:39 |
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| * vgrade likes the look of https://build.merproject.org/project/monitor?project=nemo%3Adevel%3Amw | 16:39 | |
| * vgrade fires up the Pi | 16:40 | |
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| lbt | vgrade: Sage will be making that a standalone repo too | 16:43 |
| vgrade | lbt: \o | 16:43 |
| vgrade | ok did not read backlog yet | 16:43 |
| lbt | it was a while ago - days maybe | 16:45 |
| vgrade | ok, missed that | 16:45 |
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| SilverNicktail | Hey guys, anyone around? Trying to run Plasma Active on my Nexus 7 (it's Mer underneath) and i've run into an issue I could use your help with. | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | can always try to ask | 17:58 |
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| SilverNicktail | basically, i got it up and running, as i have before. the latest version is looking pretty good, actually. it works almost perfectly (the main menu doesn't seem to have acceleration). the problem that i have is that i can't tap some of the widgets in the tray. one of them is the wireless controls! | 18:01 |
| SilverNicktail | so i can't get the tablet connected to the network to get updates or fix anything. i was wondering if anyone knew how to get the system connected from command line | 18:01 |
| SilverNicktail | if i can use the command line to control the wireless that will at least give me a working system i can start developing against | 18:02 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/1422 perl | 18:13 |
| Sage | Stskeeps: needs probably more testing but looked good to me on quick testing | 18:13 |
| Stskeeps | ok, will do a test build | 18:15 |
| Sage | didn't notice anything else than those 3 broken so far in the -next | 18:19 |
| Sage | device works fine mainly the automatic updates that were broken because of those three | 18:20 |
| joer | Mounting system directories... | 18:20 |
| joer | Directory /var/run/dbus is missing in SDK root - please report this bug | 18:20 |
| joer | i'm getting this output by enter "sdk mount" | 18:21 |
| joer | on linuxmint with kde | 18:21 |
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| joer | i have also one other question. On https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK#Mer_platform_SDK there is said about application's asd and platform sdk. But i cannot find something about the application sdk. just this one meaning on this page | 18:24 |
| joer | application's sdk | 18:25 |
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| joer | i want to develop a application, so do i need the platform sdk for this? | 18:28 |
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| Sage | joer: for application sdk I recommend checking out the sailfish sdk | 19:18 |
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| ljp | Sage: sensorfw-qt4-compat is for the sensorfw qt4 api needed by mobility sensors | 19:41 |
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| ljp | wasn't quite sure how to setup that installs | 19:49 |
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| joer | Sage: i'm more interested in the "UI and Middleware" part of the architecture picture and not writing an application for sailfishos. is this part released as open source? | 20:08 |
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| Stskeeps | joer: what you probably want to do is look into a tool/framework called lipstick | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | search for lipstick mer | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | on youtube | 20:14 |
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| Sage | ljp: ok, lets not do obsoletes/provides yet like that. We need to add more things regarding that at some point but that is not the way. | 20:29 |
| Sage | 7g 31 | 20:29 |
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| joer | Stskeeps: thx, i was looking for lipstick | 20:42 |
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