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| Stskeeps | morn | 04:49 |
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| Sage | lbt: one worker died on phost12 | 05:35 |
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| Stskeeps | Sage: http://review.merproject.org/#change,1332 we agreed was already merged? | 05:49 |
| Stskeeps | in another commit | 05:49 |
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| situ | Morning | 05:55 |
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| Sage | Stskeeps: yes and that 1332 has also a bug in it so abandon | 05:57 |
| Stskeeps | can't you click abandon by yourself, out of curiousity? | 05:57 |
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| Sage | ah, yes | 06:00 |
| Sage | it is a bit confusing place that button :) | 06:00 |
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| * Sage sees new mer release in his dreams ;) | 06:03 | |
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| Sage | 17:40.01 < lbt> ther first is handled by a symbolic link on the OS - zypper *does not* read releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/platform/0.yyyymmdd.# | 06:35 |
| Sage | 17:40.30 < lbt> there is no redirect | 06:35 |
| Sage | lbt: don't understand that | 06:35 |
| Sage | zypper *does not* read releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/platform/0.yyyymmdd.# <- ? | 06:38 |
| Sage | zypper ar releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/platform/0.yyyymmdd.# myrepo | 06:39 |
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| Stskeeps | mkosola: taking the perl upgrade for a spin, let's see how it works.. | 06:42 |
| mkosola | Stskeeps: Thanks, hopefully it goes in smooth... | 06:43 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: so far so good on glibc-rpm | 08:30 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: good - it really shouldn't actually break anything :) | 08:45 |
| lbt | same with sb2 | 08:45 |
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| lbt | is fine | 09:28 |
| lbt | Sage: so ... symbolic names in http repos | 09:28 |
| lbt | that actually point to different fqdn | 09:29 |
| Sage | I don't follow atm. | 09:29 |
| lbt | ok | 09:30 |
| Sage | meaning understand ;) | 09:31 |
| lbt | sorry - internal stuff - sec | 09:33 |
| sledges | diarrhea ? | 09:34 |
| lbt | hehe | 09:34 |
| lbt | Sage: so ... repo url | 09:35 |
| lbt | s | 09:35 |
| Sage | :P | 09:36 |
| lbt | [25/04/2013 15:38] <Sage> releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/releases/0.yyyymmdd.#/nemo -> releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/platform/0.yyyymmdd.# | 09:36 |
| lbt | [25/04/2013 15:38] <Sage> releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/releases/0.yyyymmdd.#/mer -> releases.merproject.org/releases/0.yyyymmdd.#/ | 09:36 |
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| phaeron | so what Sage wants is an http redirect in apache | 09:36 |
| phaeron | that's all | 09:36 |
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| lbt | I just feel that this is not the sensible way to do it | 09:37 |
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| lbt | yes it is possible | 09:38 |
| lbt | but it feels like a layer of complexity and management | 09:38 |
| lbt | and I am resisting it since it now needs the webserver config touching whenever the link changes | 09:39 |
| lbt | it means that any service that ever pulls data needs to handle redirects | 09:39 |
| lbt | yes, zypper probably does that | 09:40 |
| Sage | I have no idea what it needs but isn't there like .htaccess file that could be just uploaded with rest of the release? | 09:40 |
| lbt | not afaik | 09:40 |
| Sage | Well, I though there was thus proposing this really. Configuring webserver for this isn't really an option. | 09:41 |
| lbt | what I want to know is why you can't put the right url in the repo.conf | 09:41 |
| lbt | if we *have* to do this then we have to find a way | 09:41 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i need you to rebase your rpm change, not entirely sure why though | 09:41 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: friday? | 09:42 |
| phaeron | if it is apache then .htaccess can work . if it is nginx then one redirect with a regexp will work for all releases | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: ah, you don't have - libsymlink.attr shouldn't try this in /usr/lib/debug | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: looks like a trivial rebase | 09:42 |
| lbt | OK | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | if you get it in, i'll merge it immediately | 09:43 |
| Sage | lbt: I though that something like http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/ApacheRedirect.html search .htaccess would do | 09:43 |
| lbt | Sage: I didn't know about that - but there is still a "why?" | 09:44 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: ah, I see it | 09:45 |
| phaeron | lbt: what sage is trying to do with .htaccess is record the info of which mer was used with this nemo | 09:45 |
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| phaeron | lbt: that info doesn't live anywhere but in the "release" | 09:46 |
| Sage | phaeron: actually I have now http://releases.nemomobile.org/snapshots/repos/platform/0.20130426.0.1/mer.id that contains the id of mer | 09:46 |
| lbt | ssu | 09:46 |
| phaeron | Sage: yes but zypper and ssu can't use that file | 09:46 |
| Sage | phaeron: yup | 09:46 |
| phaeron | lbt: ssu doesn't have that info | 09:46 |
| phaeron | ssu uses what the server gives at 'latest-devel' for example | 09:47 |
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| lbt | it simply feels like a poor solution | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | anyway, doesn't this boil down to if server configuration allows .htaccess to use RewriteEngine? | 09:49 |
| Sage | more or less I think | 09:50 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: it's technically possible - but I think it's ugly ... and ugly solutions tend to bite | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | i agree with lbt that it shouldn't be in server configuration | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | ie, the rewrite | 09:50 |
| lbt | I would like to see a solution which updates the on-device repos with a coherent set of urls | 09:51 |
| lbt | sure for this simple case a server side works | 09:51 |
| lbt | now if I want nemo with a new mer to test it... fails | 09:51 |
| Stskeeps | either way: sage is responsible for nemo release management and if he feels it's a solution given nemo's release process and what he knows about ssu, then i don't (personally) see any problem with allowing this from .htaccess | 09:52 |
| phaeron | manually from your device you can do what you want :) | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | but perhaps sage can demonstrate the solution | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | as it doesn't seem to be fully understood when explained in words | 09:52 |
| lbt | guys : [26/04/2013 10:39] <lbt> and I am resisting it <<< not refusing :D | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | yes, i know :) | 09:53 |
| Sage | lbt: if you want to test new mer release it is anyway manual work at some point as you are bypassing the normal release process. | 09:53 |
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| lbt | Sage: yeah - given you can manage using htaccess I'm kinda happier | 09:53 |
| Sage | but yet again, if you are using nemo snapshot with any other mer release it was compiled against there is no guarantees of anything | 09:53 |
| lbt | I am also thinking that this doesn't commit us to anything | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | so, my proposal is that we verify that htaccess can be used to do rewrite rules, sage shows how it works and then we can argue about that :P | 09:54 |
| Sage | lbt: as said never was consider doing http server configuration | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | and we get on with work ;) | 09:54 |
| lbt | phaeron: as a web guy are you happy enabling .htaccess ? | 09:54 |
| lbt | security wise | 09:54 |
| phaeron | if you trust people who login then it is fine | 09:54 |
| lbt | OK | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | you can only shoot yourself in the foot under your domain/path anyway | 09:55 |
| lbt | so phaeron could you do the honours - I'm not that familiar with it | 09:56 |
| Stskeeps | AllowOverride wasn't it? | 09:56 |
| phaeron | ok | 09:56 |
| Bostik | didn't AllowOverride [foo] limit which directives are honoured from .htaccess? | 09:56 |
| lbt | phaeron: ty - saves me reading the manual :) | 09:56 |
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| lbt | longer term I think I would prefer to get ssu to obtain a coherent set of urls for a given mix of repos | 09:57 |
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| Stskeeps | thanks, i get to upgrade perl/glibc/scratchbox2 at same time | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | and util-linux | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | what could possibly go wrong | 09:59 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:59 |
| lbt | hehe | 10:00 |
| Sage | :D | 10:00 |
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| sledges | (.. Half-Life .... Test Chamber ...) | 10:05 |
| * sledges thinks what a huge packaging heritage we will loose when COBS goes down | 10:09 | |
| sledges | would be nice to scramble all .yamls and .specs of currently not broken and succeeded projects | 10:10 |
| sledges | (*succeedded compilation that is ;P ) | 10:10 |
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| Bostik | hm... should I migrate my slightly-abrasive-edge Qt5 packaging from COBS? | 10:14 |
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| sledges | tick tock tick tock :) http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-announce/2013-January/000011.html | 10:21 |
| Bostik | ah | 10:22 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: http://review.merproject.org/1349 - also on https://gldev.merproject.org/lbt/rpm | 10:24 |
| lbt | which still has permission issues | 10:25 |
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| Stskeeps | abandon http://review.merproject.org/#change,1335 ? | 10:28 |
| lbt | done | 10:30 |
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| sledges | lbt, wiki.merproject.org dearly needs http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor (for the use-cases that I just pasted in #nemomobile ) | 12:23 |
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| sardini | 'lo | 18:53 |
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| CosmoHill | hi sardini | 20:21 |
| sardini | hi CosmoHill | 20:21 |
| CosmoHill | how are you? | 20:21 |
| sardini | boring so coding, or coding so boring, I don't know | 20:22 |
| CosmoHill | what are you colding? | 20:25 |
| CosmoHill | have a nice comic to cheer you up: http://www.little-gamers.com/ | 20:27 |
| CosmoHill | (contains a lot of swearing) | 20:27 |
| CosmoHill | not suitable for children or people who use office 1997 | 20:27 |
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| sardini | CosmoHill, I ll try to code a app to count tennis point, because my friends and me never remember the last score | 20:27 |
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| CosmoHill | do you have bbc1? | 20:35 |
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| sardini | no | 20:41 |
| CosmoHill | aww | 20:42 |
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| CosmoHill | sardini: you're missing out on a QI Compliation | 21:05 |
| sardini | I miss what? | 21:06 |
| CosmoHill | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QI | 21:07 |
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| CosmoHill | cyas | 23:00 |
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| shadeslayer | hi, is there a basic rootfs with X and Plasma Active? | 23:06 |
| shadeslayer | that I can just untar onto my disk | 23:06 |
| shadeslayer | or do I need to create my own images | 23:06 |
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