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| Stskeeps | morn | 05:34 |
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| timoph | 'lo | 05:35 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: cmds ran out of memory, systemctl restart mds2.service brought it back, but it took down cbe repserver/srcserver, restarted, things look ok ish | 06:10 |
| dm8tbr | *yawn* good moaning | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | good morning dm8tbr | 06:11 |
| dm8tbr | good that I only have to go to the office for one customer telco today. dunno why I'm so tired. | 06:11 |
| Stskeeps | it's all the daylight | 06:12 |
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| soldoKyn | Hi to all! reading the documentation I cannot understand how to add and compile sources for a gpu driver when I build a root filesystem with "mic create fs"...anyone can help? thanks! | 08:24 |
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| lbt | morning | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | morn | 09:20 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: [08:10] <Stskeeps> phaeron: cmds ran out of memory, systemctl restart mds2.service brought it back, but it took down cbe repserver/srcserver, restarted, things look ok ish | 09:21 |
| lbt | ty - system crashed when I moved the mouse this am | 09:21 |
| lbt | tried to get it back but eventually rebooted | 09:21 |
| lbt | will take a look | 09:21 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: how did cmds affect backend ... doesnt' sound possible | 09:30 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: socket errors perhaps | 09:30 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: it's becoming more often for some reason .. need to investigate the stupid obs watchers thing | 09:38 |
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| jgrulich | Hi, is it possible to get the latest release of Mer with Plasma active to Nexus 7? Now I have PA 0.3 on Mer 0.2011 and this is pretty old :) | 10:46 |
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| kulve | jgrulich: I think it's PA3 and not 0.3? | 10:48 |
| kulve | also if you checked the Mer version 0.2011 under /etc, I think that's a bug. It doesn't get updated.. | 10:48 |
| rcg | hmm dated back to 2011 may even be 0.3 xD | 10:48 |
| jgrulich | kulve: yes, you're right, it's 3.0 :) | 10:48 |
| rcg | scnr ;) | 10:48 |
| jgrulich | cat /etc/system-release → Mer release 0.2011 (Mer) | 10:51 |
| rcg | jgrulich, nevermind, was just a very corny joke :) | 10:53 |
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| sledges | jgrulich, cat /etc/mer-release | 11:17 |
| sledges | second line should say the BUILD | 11:18 |
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| sledges | (ah it's a symlink, so in your installation case you might be left without luck :)) | 11:19 |
| kontio | vesse: https://github.com/leonidas/qa-reports/pull/24 new pull request, removed a slim file which is not in use any more (and confused me for half a day...) and added an other timestamp config, which we'd like to have different from the default. I renamed date to table_date in json, since date is still used for the overview graph on top of the page. | 11:19 |
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| jgrulich | sledges: it says the same → Mer release 0.2011 (mer) | 11:30 |
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| vesse | kontio: ok, i'll take a look as soon as i can (may not be today though) | 11:44 |
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| kontio | vesse: ok thx no hurry... | 11:45 |
| vesse | btw, how has upgrading been? the asset pipeline and new external service configuration things were something i feared would cause trouble to users | 11:46 |
| kontio | just merged.. | 11:46 |
| kontio | my xslt stylesheet seems is the only thing broken atm for me | 11:46 |
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| kontio | since .css are not in public any more... | 11:47 |
| vesse | oh, that i did not see. you can keep your own files in public though. | 11:48 |
| kontio | yeah just about to find them :-) | 11:48 |
| sledges | yup jgrulich just what I suspected. Nemo images add additional "BUILD: ..." line there with the kickstart filename with full (Nemo) version, but not other flavours apparently | 11:54 |
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| sledges | you'll know you're up to the latest version after you upgrade your system via zypper | 11:54 |
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| jgrulich | sledges: I tried to run zypper dup, but it wanted to downgrade a lot of packages and upgrade only one package | 11:58 |
| sledges | jgrulich, it is correct, because mer family has migrated from COBS to BMO (build.pub.meego.com to build.merproject.org) | 11:59 |
| sledges | so all packages got their release counters reset | 11:59 |
| sledges | go ahead with the downgrade, treat it as upgrade ;) | 11:59 |
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| jgrulich | sledges: ok, I'll try it, thanks :) | 12:00 |
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| sledges | have fun with your effort jgrulich :) | 12:14 |
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| Stskeeps | phaeron: looks like it's back to it's old tricks, do you have time to debug it a bit? | 12:59 |
| Stskeeps | since i just restarted it in the morning | 12:59 |
| phaeron | hmmp | 12:59 |
| phaeron | this doesn't happen on the other instance | 13:00 |
| * phaeron drops everything else and looks at this | 13:00 | |
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| Stskeeps | thanks, i owe you one | 13:00 |
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| phaeron | Stskeeps: source server was not crashed. it shouldn't run on cbe , it is running on csrc. by starting a second one .. interesting things happened | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: eep | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | phaeron: that's my fault | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | sorry about that, i thought we had them all in one place | 13:43 |
| phaeron | Stskeeps: to make things better we also have source service running on csource | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | shouldn't touch anything before my morning coffee | 13:44 |
| * phaeron ducks | 13:44 | |
| phaeron | lbt: I know your intentions were noble :) | 13:44 |
| lbt | yeah - it's OBS - it has bs_srcserver which should not run on the same machine as the "source service" | 13:45 |
| lbt | so bs_serviceserver runs on csource and bs_srcserver runs on csrc | 13:45 |
| lbt | naturally | 13:45 |
| * lbt wonders how people could possilby confuse that? | 13:46 | |
| phaeron | by hanging a voodoo doll on the server | 13:46 |
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| * lbt orders 4 | 13:46 | |
| lbt | does anyone have an amqp or ruby vodoo doll they can stab for me? | 13:47 |
| * lbt sees "building a custom gpu driver in "mic create fs" process" on mailing list and silently weeps | 13:48 | |
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| lbt | so much documentation still to be done | 13:48 |
| phaeron | lbt: can we get a sprinkle of extra cores for our vms. running obs scheduler on single machine is not ideal | 13:49 |
| phaeron | *single core | 13:49 |
| lbt | really? | 13:50 |
| lbt | I've never seen it specially loaded | 13:50 |
| phaeron | specially when we have 5 or 6 archs | 13:50 |
| phaeron | load is 4 currently | 13:50 |
| phaeron | was 7 | 13:51 |
| phaeron | now 1 | 13:51 |
| phaeron | anyway | 13:51 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, sounds like one more core couldn't hurt | 13:51 |
| lbt | load average is <2 so | 13:52 |
| lbt | 85% idle | 13:52 |
| lbt | 30% wait io | 13:52 |
| phaeron | keep in mind that scheduler is a big endless loop :) | 13:52 |
| phaeron | so running 6 of them could be helped but an extra cpu | 13:52 |
| lbt | yes, but it's at 90% idle even with load >2 | 13:53 |
| phaeron | lbt: watch the context switching , I have a feeling that's what is hurting too | 13:53 |
| lbt | hurting what? | 13:53 |
| Stskeeps | i'm guessing phaeron is looking into the reports of 'slow obs' a little deeper | 13:54 |
| phaeron | never mind | 13:54 |
| phaeron | bbl | 13:54 |
| phaeron | watch vmstat 1 | 13:54 |
| lbt | OK | 13:54 |
| lbt | but unless the frontend is having problems with backend response then cbe cpus won't help | 13:55 |
| lbt | and most cfe is to csrc | 13:55 |
| lbt | that means that load on cbe won't touch csrc and cfe interaction | 13:55 |
| lbt | don't forget we run the services over multiple VMs | 13:56 |
| lbt | so actually OBS has a fair few cpu allocated to it | 13:56 |
| lbt | the fact that there is swap activity is far worse than load avg | 13:57 |
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| Stskeeps | on a sidenote, would we win anything from vm pinning? | 13:57 |
| Stskeeps | since we have roughly a core per obs vm | 13:57 |
| lbt | I'm not sure we have any real cpu issues | 13:58 |
| lbt | vmstat over the past few mins has shown a single second with user cpu at 74%... | 13:59 |
| lbt | 90% of the time it is 99% idle | 13:59 |
| lbt | although the recent build burst has apparently stopped | 13:59 |
| lbt | I'm not sure what exactly is "slow" ... didn't see anything in logs | 14:00 |
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| Stskeeps | well, i'm guessing you're not seeing anything at the moment, but something in chain web client -> cfe->csrc or cbe -> mds2 gets affected to the extent it's massively slow | 14:01 |
| Stskeeps | and i think phaeron restarted the mds | 14:01 |
| lbt | sage got hit by something recently on just his projects | 14:02 |
| lbt | so I'd look at mine and it was fine - his were dead slow | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | yes, you probably don't branch from mds | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | i've seen slowness on main page though | 14:03 |
| Stskeeps | was really slow in the morning | 14:03 |
| lbt | most interactions with backend from frontend are ajaxed | 14:03 |
| lbt | the async means the page takes a while to finish but renders quickly | 14:04 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, now i'm clicking "nemo:devel:mw" | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | and i've already waited 20+ seconds | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | so something is definately off | 14:04 |
| lbt | url | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | https://build.merproject.org/project/list_public | 14:04 |
| Stskeeps | i'm also not logged in | 14:05 |
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| lbt | yep, seeing that | 14:05 |
| lbt | cbe is 99% idle | 14:05 |
| lbt | has been for the last 10mins | 14:05 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so cbe isn't the culprit then | 14:05 |
| lbt | wait | 14:06 |
| lbt | it's 99% waitio | 14:06 |
| lbt | next to idle in vmstat and *not* user/sys cpu which is 1/0 | 14:06 |
| Stskeeps | so it's waiting for disk? | 14:07 |
| Stskeeps | or for tcp | 14:07 |
| lbt | swap | 14:07 |
| * lbt wonders if pupper is running | 14:07 | |
| lbt | genpkgmetadata. | 14:07 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, cbe is dead slow atm | 14:08 |
| Stskeeps | genpkgmetadata.. publisher? | 14:08 |
| Stskeeps | |-bs_publish---genpkgmetadata. | 14:09 |
| lbt | yes | 14:09 |
| lbt | /srv/obs/repos/kde:/devel:/ux/latest_armv7hl/repocache | 14:09 |
| Stskeeps | 512mb is a bit low for be isn't it, just out of curiousity? | 14:10 |
| lbt | more RAM | 14:10 |
| lbt | yes | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | 1.5gb? | 14:11 |
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| lbt | odd | 14:11 |
| lbt | it has 2cpu and a gig in the xml for virtd | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | .. and 512mb in the actual machine | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 14:11 |
| * lbt may not have rebooted it | 14:12 | |
| Stskeeps | sure you're not looking at cfe? | 14:12 |
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| lbt | :P | 14:12 |
| lbt | cbe going down :) | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | k | 14:12 |
| lbt | mmm eez not dying | 14:14 |
| * Stskeeps hands gun | 14:14 | |
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| * lbt does virsh sysrq | 14:16 | |
| lbt | and ... sync doesn't | 14:16 |
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| lbt | "This sysrq operation is disabled." | 14:16 |
| lbt | gah | 14:16 |
| * Sage thinks he needs to resubmit everything again soon :P | 14:16 | |
| Sage | 17:09.41 < lbt> /srv/obs/repos/kde:/devel:/ux/latest_armv7hl/repocache | 14:17 |
| Sage | does kde guys have that 500M tarball with video again? | 14:17 |
| Sage | https://build.merproject.org/package/files?package=sample-media&project=kde%3Adevel%3Aux so 150M tarball only | 14:18 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: phaeron cbe now has 1Gb and 2 cores | 14:19 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, let's see how it helps | 14:19 |
| lbt | almost all mobs runs on a single phost | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 14:21 |
| lbt | so I'd rather throttle cbe cpu as it doesn't affect cfe much | 14:21 |
| lbt | I thought it didn't | 14:21 |
| lbt | clearly something doesn't like it | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | can publisher be on a seperate vm theoretically? | 14:22 |
| lbt | mm | 14:22 |
| lbt | I don't think so | 14:22 |
| lbt | it can publish to staging | 14:22 |
| lbt | I think it used to be more modular | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | much faster | 14:25 |
| phaeron | lbt: \o/ | 14:25 |
| lbt | still 99/100% idle for ~98% time... | 14:26 |
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| phaeron | lbt: it spikes. | 14:27 |
| lbt | yes | 14:27 |
| lbt | but for 1-3 seconds per minute | 14:28 |
| phaeron | but even if you overcommit host cpu it will be better than starving the guests | 14:28 |
| lbt | *nod* | 14:29 |
| lbt | even on spikes it is 80% idle | 14:29 |
| phaeron | lbt: wait till sage does a mega SR :) | 14:30 |
| lbt | yeah - right now user cpu has not gone above 10% for 1second since reboot | 14:30 |
| lbt | ideally we'd run schedulers at lower prio | 14:31 |
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| phaeron | but of course swapping was bad too. now it's fresh and page cache is empty too | 14:31 |
| lbt | and run the bs_repserver at high prio | 14:31 |
| lbt | so it responds to cfe even during load | 14:31 |
| lbt | and schedulers can just do their thing slowly - we don't usually care how fast they are | 14:32 |
| lbt | taking 5mins to schedule a few hours of build time is fine | 14:32 |
| lbt | ok ... need to go out for a few mins ... bbiab | 14:33 |
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| lbt | could increase cfe to 4Gb too | 14:34 |
| Sage | can I try can I try? :) | 14:35 |
| phaeron | Sage: fire torpedoes . | 14:36 |
| * Sage goes to push a bit ;) | 14:36 | |
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| sledges | lbt, so I still should not do mersdk zypper dup due to sb2 issues ? | 15:18 |
| lbt | sledges: they're fixed in rolling release | 15:18 |
| sledges | ok, so dup is in order then :) | 15:19 |
| sledges | didn't find announcement on ml to go ahead that's all ;P | 15:19 |
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| lbt | true | 15:19 |
| sledges | I canl write that | 15:20 |
| lbt | yep | 15:20 |
| sledges | k ta | 15:21 |
| lbt | reply to my mail about it - and it's fixed for people using the rolling release | 15:21 |
| sledges | gone | 15:22 |
| sledges | :) | 15:22 |
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| CosmoHill | hi rcg | 16:16 |
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| rcg | hey CosmoHill | 16:27 |
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| rcg | how is it going? | 16:27 |
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| CosmoHill | going well | 16:28 |
| rcg | great | 16:28 |
| rcg | :) | 16:28 |
| CosmoHill | got home early from work, now eating a pizza before heading out to drifting | 16:28 |
| rcg | drifting? | 16:28 |
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| rcg | pizza and heading out sounds good, so far ;) | 16:29 |
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| faenil | rcg, o/ | 16:29 |
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| rcg | hey faenil :) | 16:30 |
| sledges | hi fi! how's it going? :) | 16:30 |
| faenil | hey :) good good | 16:31 |
| faenil | back from 8h of lessons :/ | 16:31 |
| faenil | downloading Sailfish SDK right now :D | 16:31 |
| rcg | hey sledges :) | 16:31 |
| rcg | you're alive as well | 16:31 |
| rcg | faenil, great :) | 16:32 |
| rcg | the sailfish sdk is nice n fun | 16:32 |
| sledges | rcg, yes, alive and kick(start)ing :) ; busy at work though | 16:32 |
| sledges | faenil, nice, liked your tweet about exam finished, hello world ;D | 16:33 |
| faenil | sledges, ^^ | 16:34 |
| faenil | got 2 weeks with some spare time after lessons at least | 16:34 |
| faenil | :) | 16:34 |
| sledges | :) me too, trying to pinch in whenever free myself up here | 16:34 |
| rcg | sledges, aye, sounds fun | 16:35 |
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| rcg | well.. gonna go home.. but will need to work some more from there xD | 16:36 |
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| rcg | at least the balcony should be very nice with the good weather right now :) | 16:36 |
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| rcg | bbl | 16:36 |
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| sledges | tschöö :) | 16:38 |
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| CosmoHill | hi sledges | 16:43 |
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| sledges | hya CosmoHill | 16:45 |
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| jpwhiting | hmm, is build.pub.merproject.org down? | 17:18 |
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| Stskeeps | build.merproject.org | 17:18 |
| jpwhiting | or is that the wrong url listed on https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Building_against_Mer_in_COBS | 17:18 |
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| Stskeeps | probably is then | 17:18 |
| Stskeeps | feel free to fix | 17:19 |
| jpwhiting | k will do | 17:19 |
| jpwhiting | yep, build.merproject.org seems fine :) | 17:19 |
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| jpwhiting | k, fixed | 17:20 |
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| timoph | hmmh. has there been some packaging bug with elfutils? | 18:08 |
| timoph | installed version in platform sdk 0.152-1.17 and the one in repos is 0.152-1.1.26 | 18:09 |
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| timoph | (updating old sdk installation) | 18:10 |
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