Thursday, 2013-04-04

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notmartwith the new release i have some packages that fail with something like http://paste.opensuse.org/6549744909:36
notmartbut only some, seems pretty random09:36
notmart(for most packages a debuginfo one is created with that stuff in)09:36
lbtnotmart: changes to rpm validation rules09:37
notmartso what should be done now to prevent this?09:38
lbtat first glance it looks like your spec is not quite precise enough09:40
notmarthmm, should it include debuginfo stuff as well?09:40
notmart(none of the other packages that still build do)09:40
lbtI admit I am not sure about making debug packages09:41
lbtshow me the spec?09:41
notmarthttps://build.merproject.org/package/view_file?file=owncloud-client.spec&package=owncloud-client&project=kde%3Adevel%3Aux&rev=b5f3a47be229a22c0ba3e676fb34dc7409:41
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lbtin general the file lists should exactly match the stuff in the installroot and no rpm should install files twice09:42
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lbtand suse has different rpm rules to mer09:42
lbtSage: ^^ building debug rpms - not something I know much about09:44
notmarthmm, for that package maybe is because has some exclude..09:46
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Stskeepsif you have a %exclude for binaries you're doing it wrong09:46
Stskeepsyou should rm it in %install09:46
* notmart changes09:47
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lbtStskeeps: yes, but that's just style isn't it?09:53
notmartif it exctracts debug info from binaries after the install phase it may be connected to it..09:54
Stskeepslbt: i think it's more policy, ish09:55
lbtnotmart: I guess it could be doing that09:55
lbtStskeeps: well, I was more meaning technically whether it should cause failures09:55
notmartlooking now if it makes some difference09:56
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notmartha, it build correctly now ;)09:59
kulvewhat's the status of PA4? When could somebody test it on Nexus7? :)10:00
notmartlet's see if the other failing packages have the same problem10:00
notmartupstream-code wise is pretty much frozen and done10:01
notmartthere are still some bugs to be fixed10:01
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notmartabout nexus adaptation, i personally don't know much10:01
rcgkulve, i created a rootfs tarball last week.. didn't have time to test it very much.. first try the ui didn't come up10:01
rcgbut that may be very well an issue introduced by the way i created the tarball10:02
kulvercg: oh, you are already on it. Excellent. Let me know if there's something I could help to debug :)10:02
rcgkulve, sure, will do :)10:02
kulvercg: do you have the .ks somewhere? Maybe I could build it and see what happens..10:03
lbtStskeeps: would like to look at DNS in a bit too - point dk at mer infra - ping me when you have time to try it10:03
rcgkulve, that would be great.. just a sec10:03
rcghttp://files.kde.org/plasma/active/3.0/images/nexus7/plasma-active-nexus7-devel-mer-latest-2013-03-28.ks10:04
rcgthere are still some hacks from my own repos in there... the "wonko" repos10:04
kulvercg: I was also wondering if your vkb layout would suite nemo better than the half-sized default one10:04
rcgmaybe those things are causing the problems i experienced, so it may be worth a try to comment the "wonko" stuff out10:04
rcgkulve, i think it should be straight forward to give it a try10:05
kulvercg: that .ks is using PA4 packages and not PA3..?10:06
Stskeepslbt: ok, just tell me what changes you ned10:06
Stskeepsneed10:06
rcgkulve, it's using the latest from bmo10:06
rcgso it _should_ be pa4 afaik10:07
kulveat least package "plasma-active" seems to have version number 4.10.010:07
rcgto try "my" keyboard version, you can get it from https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=home%3Awonko%3Apa%3Atesting10:07
rcgjust make sure you only install the maliit stuff as i dunno how the other things behave with nemo ;)10:08
notmartkulve: it will be based on kde 4.10 yes10:08
rcgbbl10:08
notmartwhatever is in kde:devel:* will end up as pa410:08
notmart(we don't have pa3 stuff building on the new obs)10:08
kulvethat's good. I'll give it a try then. Maybe not today, but this week at least10:09
kulvenotmart: do you know if the rendering part has changed..? I.e. how explicitly or well OpenGL ES is used during the rendering? Or is that completely up to Qt (in addition to kwin)?10:10
notmartyeah, rendering depends to whatever qt uses, we just use what qt on the platform is using10:11
notmartapps use a qglwidget as qgraphicsview viewport, so gles should be used for some operations (still qtquick1, so big chunks in software still)10:11
notmartkwin should use gles as well for composing when available10:12
kulvehas there been improvements in how or how many apps use qglwidget compared to PA3?10:12
kulveI think Qt should be quite hw accelerated on Nexus7 but PA3 seemed a bit laggish10:13
kulveStskeeps: do you know how well Qt is accelerated on tegra compared to e.g. x86 world? Or some other ARM platform?10:14
kulveor ARM vs X86 in general10:14
Stskeepskulve: hmm, it should really be similiar-ish10:14
Stskeepsdid you get meego graphics system going yet?10:14
notmartyeah10:14
notmartmain problem probably is that qt4 and qml1 anyways fallback to software rendering for many operations ( so "real" solution would be port to qml2/scenegraph)10:15
Stskeepswhat's the PA plans there anyway?10:15
notmartthat is in progress, but is a tad a big task so will take a while10:15
Stskeepsok10:15
kulveStskeeps: well, I did try the meego system and it worked but I tried only up to the point where maliit crashed. That shouldn't now be the case anymore, so I could run more testing10:15
Stskeepsok10:16
notmartlast time i tried to put "meego" as graphicssystem at boot, it didn't boot at all10:16
kulveStskeeps: what's the difference between meego and opengl as there's no NOK based extensions that the meego system checks for?10:16
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kulvenotmart: are you running with "opengl" then normally? In my and rcg's tests, some crucial prosesses were crashing in PA3 with "opengl"10:17
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notmartkulve: with raster, then using a qglwidget as qgraphicsview viewport to some apps10:19
notmart(notably not the shell, that had some problems)10:19
notmartthe other apps like files, okular,webbrowser are using it10:20
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kulveis there some simple way to launch the PA4 session..? I have X running but no apps currently16:02
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kulveI run "startactive" but nothing on the screen..16:04
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kulvegot it running. Looks like PA3 mostly :)16:14
kulveI tried enabling QT_DEFAULT_RUNTIME_SYSTEM=opengl but because of that (or something else) I'm now getting the following when I tried to do open the menu from the top:16:21
kulveQGLWindowSurface: Using plain widget as window surface QGLWindowSurface(0x1233370)16:21
kulvekwinactive(545)/kwin KWin::checkGLError: GL error ( load texture ):  "GL_INVALID_OPERATION"16:21
kulvekwinactive(545)/kwin KWin::checkGLError: GL error ( PostPaint ):  "GL_INVALID_OPERATION"16:21
kulveand the last line repeats a lot. UI got basically stuck there16:21
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kulveworking usb otg is quite handy. I can connect a usb keyboard or use serial login (or usb networking) by just switching the cable.16:33
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kaltsiI'm trying to fetch one of my review.merproject changes with "anonymous https" but I'm getting a certificate verification failure18:45
kaltsiperhaps I need to use ssh and userid18:45
kaltsiah logging in helps to get the correct request line18:47
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