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xavinuxhi people may I ask a question about a task I'm working on05:37
dm8tbrhave you read smart questions yet?05:38
xavinuxhi dm8tbr how are you05:41
dm8tbrhi05:41
dm8tbrwaking up, caffeinating05:41
dm8tbrin case you haven't read 'smart questions' yet:05:41
dm8tbrhttp://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html05:41
xavinuxyes read this05:43
xavinuxsorry, for boder you yesterday05:43
xavinuxI want to send a question to the group and sent it to you05:44
xavinuxagain sorry for that05:44
dm8tbrnp05:45
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dm8tbrI was just worried that you had sent it to everyone on the channel05:46
xavinuxno, but again sorry for my mistake05:48
dm8tbrnp05:49
xavinuxI am trying to learn so as to be able to help, but there is no intention of disturbing anyone05:49
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xavinuxhave a good day dm8tbr06:07
xavinuxbye06:08
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sledgescould anyone share a minimal Qt WebKit demo running on Mer (XOrg) ? just a fullscreen window displaying a website11:40
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Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: you can do that inside QML it is very easy11:49
sledgesok, so just need a minimal Qt app (me is very OBS+RPM oriented, when it comes to finding needed apps :DD)11:50
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: I will code it and push to git11:50
Sfiet_Konstantinyou package it ?11:50
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lbtSfiet_Konstantin: could you license it BSD ?11:54
lbtif so I could see about using it as an example (with author credits of course)11:55
Sfiet_Konstantinlbt: yes11:55
Sfiet_Konstantinit will be licensed bsd11:55
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: github or gitorious11:55
Sfiet_Konstantin?11:55
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sledgesgithub12:25
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin, ^12:25
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin, great awesome teamwork! :D12:26
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: too bad, it is on gitorious12:26
sledges:D12:26
Sfiet_KonstantinI always push my demo stuff on gitorious12:26
sledges;)12:26
Sfiet_Konstantinrunning osc build to test build now12:27
Sfiet_KonstantinI wrote the spec yeah :D12:27
sledgesniice, so I don't need to package it? :D12:27
sledgesjust remaining teenie bit12:27
Sfiet_Konstantin:)12:27
Sfiet_Konstantinoh12:27
Sfiet_Konstantinyou might want ARM build ?12:27
sledgesI let OBS do that normally :)12:28
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Sfiet_Konstantinyeah, but I'm used to only check the i586 target12:28
Sfiet_Konstantinwhich target should I enable ?12:28
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sledgesarmv7hl12:30
Artoxabout that test: where are you people building it to?12:33
Artoxwhat repo?12:33
sledgesoh, gaining traction isn't it ;)12:33
Artoxlooks liek it12:33
sledgesgood :) loving the opensource community12:34
Sfiet_Konstantinhttps://build.merproject.org/project/repositories?project=home%3Asfietkonstantin%3Anemo12:34
ArtoxI am jsut curious to run *anything* on my phone atm12:34
xavinuxhi people12:34
sledgeserm, no source uploaded Sfiet_Konstantin ;)12:34
sledgeshttps://build.merproject.org/package/files?package=microbrowser&project=home%3Asfietkonstantin%3Anemo12:35
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kaltsiStskeeps: this page https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/SB2 refers to http://webui-ci.tspre.org a lot (it's returning 503) .. is it obsolete stuff or just doesn't work right now?12:39
Stskeepsyes12:39
Stskeepsit's just old info on the sb2 obs work12:39
sledgesArtox, that's the spirit \o/12:39
Stskeepsbuild.ci.merproject.org is the new one12:39
kaltsiStskeeps: ok.. just had lunch with Lauri (he sends hellos) and there's a bug in sb2 logging that he wants to investigate.. I'm trying to figure out the easiest setup for him to create an environment for himself12:40
Stskeeps:nod:12:40
Stskeepsprobably sdk?12:40
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: doing a local build before upload12:40
sledgesunderstood12:41
sledges:)12:41
kaltsiStskeeps: yeah that will probably do12:41
* sledges smells like microbrowser could go through the same diaspora as lipstick had ;)12:41
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: wow, no :D12:42
Sfiet_Konstantinthere is heliumbrowser for that isn't it ?12:42
sledgesyes, there was also GNOME and KDE for Nemo as a choice of UI :)))12:42
xavinuxlbt: I ask you a question about a bug I am working on12:43
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Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: build finished :)12:45
Sfiet_Konstantindo /opt/microbrowser/microbrowser http://google.fr12:45
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sledges\o/ testing now Sfiet_Konstantin  , html5test.com gives only white screen12:52
Sfiet_Konstantinhttp ?12:53
Sfiet_Konstantinhttp://html5test.com12:53
Sfiet_Konstantinit is a very crude browser12:53
xavinuxsorry, error typing *lbt: May I ask you a question about a bug I am working on12:53
Sfiet_Konstantinimprovements are welcome :D12:53
Sfiet_Konstantinbut I ws wondering, what about using showshoe12:53
sledgesisn't it a WebKit QML element?12:53
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: it is12:53
sledgesso i'd imagine it should render anything webkit can12:53
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: ie ?12:54
sledgese.g. http://html5test.com :)12:54
Sfiet_Konstantinyou forgot http in fron of html5test.com ;)12:55
Sfiet_KonstantinI should have added a test :D12:55
sledgesbut I love the scrolling. finally I can show an HTML(hopefully 5 :) demo to my boss and others, who never seen a smooth scrolling (hence that bit is ofcourse accelerated) html5 app on an embedded device to-date12:55
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: which device ?12:56
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sledgesin my case, Pandaboard :)12:57
Sfiet_Konstantinis it working well ?12:57
sledgesyes12:57
sledgesbut scrolling sometimes stutters12:57
Sfiet_Konstantinbecause on the tab it works well, but it is normal12:57
sledgesthough miles better than helium scrolling ;)12:58
sledgesmillions of thanks Sfiet_Konstantin :)12:58
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: really ?12:58
Sfiet_Konstantinstrange, because helium should be based on QML as well12:58
sledgesstrangely, helium gives me 311 html5 score, and microbrowser only 306 lol12:58
sledgeswell, helium produces loads of "checker boards"12:58
lbtxavinux: sure - also, in irc, just ask. Other people may be able to answer if I'm busy12:59
sledgesI think the are some extra toppings there that make it slow12:59
xavinuxoh thanks12:59
lbtkaltsi: tell Lauri to use "platform sdk", not gui SDK13:00
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: what are those "checker boards" ?13:00
xavinuxYesterday I 've been workinghttps://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62313:00
MerbotMer bug 623 in vim "spec template in vim has lines that are not used in Mer" [Normal,New]13:00
xavinuxspec template in vim has lines that are not used in Mer13:01
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lbtyep - so that means you probably need to download vim and send a patch that modifies the template13:02
xavinuxI have errase these lines and when a new spec file is created with vim don't appear any more13:02
lbtnice13:02
xavinuxI modified the spec file13:02
lbtsee https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Contribution_in_detail13:02
xavinuxof vim13:02
kaltsilbt: platform sdk would be great, but is there a ready-made sb2 target for it somewhere?13:03
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kaltsiat least there's the wiki page on how to create the target rootfs13:04
lbtkaltsi: yes https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_and_SB213:04
kaltsireading that now :)13:05
lbtcan you verify new platform SDK for me too ?13:05
lbthttps://img.merproject.org/images//web/root/1-20130314-124606/13:05
xavinuxlbt: ok reading that link13:06
lbtkaltsi: should be a 7.1.0 empty one (no cross tools)13:06
lbthttps://img.merproject.org/images//web/root/1-20130314-121558/ has all the cross tools for all arches13:06
kaltsiso I could use that as the sb2 target root?13:07
kaltsinoo.. that's the sdk itself13:07
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin, just transparency background, something QML ish I guess. Like -not-yet-rendered-canvas13:11
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin, something leads me to believe heliumreborn is not 2D accelerated (boosted) in nemo13:11
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: well, I'm not sure that QtWebkit is13:12
sledgeswell, scrolling I think is (I should check your µbrowser on n9 too)13:19
sledgesbecause Qt components are accelerated in Nemo13:19
sledgesI don't really care atm whether HTML rendered components are accelerated or not13:20
sledgesbut I just believe helium is not being boosted at all13:20
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sledgesSfiet_Konstantin, crazy: http://js-fireworks.appspot.com/ is faster on helium than on µbrowser13:52
sledgesbut scrolling is smoother on µbrowser13:52
sledgestime to look into the code of helium13:52
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* sledges those were last words13:52
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: maybe the best thing is to try snowshoe13:53
sledgescould be ;) and/or the w00t's link on #nemo13:54
sledges*#nemomobile13:54
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sledgesSfiet_Konstantin, snowshoe is qt5 ;) a challenge begins! :)14:22
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sledgesBostik hi, could you help out with this? http://pastie.org/686289014:26
Bostiksledges: off from computer for a few more hours, I'll look at it in the early evening14:26
sledgesokay, it's along the lines of qt5webkit packaging, snowshoe wants TabWidget type and QtWebKit* modules :)14:27
sledgesthanks14:27
Bostikoh14:28
Bostikoh well, I'll see how I can help in a few hours14:29
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: you are missing some packages14:29
sledgesI think I installed everything I could by now :D  this will come in handy: http://pastebin.com/rCfKpyGp14:30
Sfiet_Konstantinyou need QtWebKit module (QML plugin)14:30
Sfiet_Konstantinlet me search14:30
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin, for some reason it is available only as scrpackage14:30
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Bostik?que14:30
sledgesthe only repo I found is here:  http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/cxl000:/Qt5/Mer_Core_armv7hl/14:30
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Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: maybe it was not compiled14:31
Sfiet_Konstantincompiling webkit takes ages14:31
Sfiet_Konstantindo not seems to be available here either14:31
sledgeshttp://pastie.org/686934614:31
sledgesok, will look out. strange, as everything else is compiled :)14:32
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: strange14:32
Sfiet_Konstantinneed to ping Stskeeps maybe14:32
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Stskeepsqt5 is in mer core14:33
sledgesok found14:33
sledgesStskeeps, not webkit iirc14:33
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin, qt5-qtqml-import-webkitplugin* are needed14:33
Bostikwaaaitaminue, QtWebkit QML?14:33
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Bostikplease don't say that's from qtquick package14:33
Stskeepsyeah, that's not in the mer packaging14:34
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: ha !14:34
Stskeeps(no webkit in mer qt5 yet)14:34
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sledgesand crash14:34
Sfiet_KonstantinStskeeps: will there be webkit one day ? :)14:34
sledgesFailed to start " QtWebProcess 18"14:34
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: because there is no webkit14:34
sledgesSHOULD NEVER BE REACHED14:34
sledgesUIProcess/Launcher/qt/ProcessLauncherQt.cpp(187) : void WebKit::ProcessLauncher::launchProcess()14:34
Sfiet_Konstantininstalled the qtwebprocess ?14:34
sledgesand segfault :)14:34
sledgeslol14:34
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: pretty :D14:34
sledgesmaybe not :DD14:34
sledgesno such package14:34
BostikSfiet_Konstantin: yes there will be webkit14:35
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Bostikeventually14:35
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: qt5-qtwebkit-uiprocess-launcher14:35
Bostikneed to find about a week's worth of spare time...14:35
Sfiet_KonstantinBostik: I'm releived14:35
Sfiet_KonstantinBostik: :O14:35
Sfiet_Konstantinreally, is webkit that painful ?14:35
sledgesSfiet_Konstantin, already installed14:35
Sfiet_Konstantinsledges: well ...14:36
Sfiet_Konstantindon't know what to do14:36
Sfiet_Konstantinmaybe it is because of missing webkit dependancies14:36
BostikSfiet_Konstantin: it's slow to iterate wrt. to fixes14:36
Sfiet_KonstantinBostik: I see14:37
Bostikand the build system... well....14:37
Bostiklet's just say that there are dark corners and monsters involved14:37
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BostikA) webkit is at the rear end of dependency chain14:39
sledgessnowshoe also spits: WARNING: This project is using the experimental QML API extensions for QtWebKit and is therefore tied to a specific QtWebKit release. The experimental API will change from version to version, or even be removed. You have been warned!14:39
BostikB) a newly exposed module may appear thanks to any "higher" package update14:39
BostikC) packaging errors can have 4-hour turnaround time14:40
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sledgesinteresting, managed to launch `/usr/lib/qt5/libexec/QtWebProcess 0`14:43
sledgesbut snowshoe still cannot invocate qtwebprocess gracefully ..14:43
sledgescxl000 - you are the person I'm taking all this goodness from btw ;)14:44
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sledgesouch, he's in .au .. :)14:44
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sledges!seen cxl00014:44
Merbotsledges: cxl000 was last seen in #mer 6 weeks, 1 day, 1 hour, 52 minutes, and 27 seconds ago: <cxl000> qmlscene also lacks decorations14:44
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sledgesany volunteers to upgrade http://gitweb.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/qtwebkit.git;a=tree to 2.3.0 ? ;) ( https://blogs.kde.org/2013/03/15/qtwebkit-230-out )14:52
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* sledges evil laugh :D14:58
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sledgeson BMO "Prefer: pvr-omap4-libEGL" doesn't seem to work: https://build.merproject.org/project/prjconf?project=home%3Asledge%3Abranches%3Anemo%3Adevel%3Ahw%3Ati%3Aomap4%3Apandaboard (for the package xorg-x11-drv-omap of that project)16:10
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sledgespackaging question: hardware adaptation needs to modify lipstick.service . How can I ensure this does not get overwritten ?17:32
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sledgesduring every lipstick update17:33
sledges?17:33
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CosmoHillsledges: you play with lipstick?17:35
sledgesyes, it's all over my face and mirror now17:35
CosmoHillis this you: http://www.discordcomics.com/shades-of-a-006/ ?17:36
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sledgesnah, beard doesn't go with lipstick :))17:37
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Bostiksledges: I think I found what you're after17:50
Bostikqtwebkit/qtwebkit5.spec:%package -n qt5-qtqml-import-webkitplugin17:50
Bostikqtwebkit/qtwebkit5.spec:%package -n qt5-qtqml-import-webkitplugin-experimental17:50
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Bostikhideous package names, I agree17:51
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sledgesBostik, 14:33 < sledges> Sfiet_Konstantin, qt5-qtqml-import-webkitplugin* are needed17:52
Bostikaye, thank you17:52
sledges:) I got all things launching in the end. it's the qtwebprocess crashing17:52
BostikI had missed that one, going with the tiny phone screen and only occasional presence is not the most productive combination17:53
sledges:) yup, soz not to have highlighted you17:54
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lbtabout time!20:03
Stskeepsoh?20:06
lbtbeen away 2hrs .... didn't anyone miss me :D20:08
Stskeepsi went for hairdresser and shopping20:09
Stskeeps:P20:09
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cxl000sledges Bostik: This is a Qt 5.0.1 build. qt5webkit likely needs more packaging work.21:38
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Bostikprobably21:39
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cxl000As my interest was qtwayland I have not gotten back to look closely at the snowshoe failure.21:44
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