Thursday, 2013-03-07

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mvogtw00t: ping00:56
w00tmvogt: pong00:56
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mvogtabout the qmf config change - are you in a position to test it on mac/windows?00:56
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mvogtI have no problem with the config change, but I never was much involved in the porting anyway, so I don't know about the ramifications for other platforms00:57
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w00twindows, no, but it's just a reshuffle of what is already there: it now uses pkgconfig for mac/linux and the old weid stuff for windows00:58
w00tweird00:58
mvogtyeah00:58
mvogtwhat about mac - that's the bigger part00:58
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w00tit works (or well, almost.. i have some other weird compiler problems that still block fully normal usage - QPrivatelyImplemented ..)00:58
mvogtright, but the pkgconfig part works?00:59
w00tyes00:59
mvogtok, cool00:59
w00tthat's why i wrote it originally00:59
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mvogton the other one - your summary line is a bit wrong, but the change is fine01:02
w00tthat's true i suppose, it isn't really removing it :-)01:03
mvogtno, I mean it is for QMMPC::Location :)01:03
w00toh, that too01:04
mvogtif you don't care, I will approve it anyway01:04
w00tI'll fix it01:04
mvogtok, I'll approve after01:04
mvogtthanks01:04
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w00tmvogt: hrm, where'd your 'C' come from? (and my 'Container') - it's QMailMessagePart::Location01:05
mvogtisn't it in PartContainer, and inherited by Part?01:06
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mvogtyes it is01:06
w00tah right01:06
mvogtanyway, just Location would be fine :)01:07
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w00truh-ro01:11
w00ti broke git somehow01:11
mvogtyeah, that didn't change the ocmmit message01:11
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w00tI was in the middle of an interactive rebase when I amended, and something went very weird and now my rebase (and master) is broken01:13
w00tthank god for reflog01:13
mvogti never try anything like that, because I know I can't fix it when something goes wrong!01:14
w00tyou can generally fix just about anything with an inventive use of reflog / checkout / interactive rebase01:14
w00tbut yeah, it's not always for the faint-hearted01:14
mvogtyou can, but I can't01:15
mvogtok, all good now01:15
w00tI'll have to show you when we meet sometime :-)01:15
mvogtwhen we meet sometime, it had better be for better reasons that arcane git lore01:16
w00thaha01:16
mvogtlike norwegian beer sampling, or something01:16
w00talso true01:16
* w00t ponders making another crack at sleep01:17
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slainemorning folks08:36
Stskeepsmorn slaine08:36
Bostikoh yeah, morning'ish08:36
slaine08:30 here at least08:37
rcgmorning08:37
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rcgwell +1 hour here.. so yeah, still morning :)08:37
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* b0unc3 good morning09:36
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SageStskeeps: lbt_: lbt_away: ping, mer release updated in mer community obs??11:39
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lbt_Sage: done11:50
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sledgesthe clock on COBS pubworkers is 12 minutes early. very confusing when trying to understand, if your bit got just rebuilt16:49
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bobweaverHello there I am tring to build the iso of zephyer here is kickstart file https://github.com/stskeeps/zephyr   when I run sudo mic cr -f livecd -a i686 -c /home/bobweaver/Desktop/Mer/zephyr-i586-vm.ks   I get this error http://pastebin.com/wWygB9Mh    My host is 12.04 Ubuntu I have mic2 installed. Thanks for looking at this19:38
Stskeepsinstall mer platform sdk19:39
Stskeepsthat's where all the correct tools are in19:39
Stskeepswiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK19:39
bobweaverthanks Stskeeps  and thanks for all the work that you put into Mer19:41
Stskeepsnp19:41
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mdfeStskeeps: Good evening, it is posible to contribute by spending a vm machine located by hetzner as a worker for build.merproject.org?19:58
Stskeepsmm, we need physical hosts20:01
Stskeepsmdfe: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Donation_Policy details what we can take20:01
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mdfeunderstandable20:01
Stskeepsthe thing is practically that it needs to be under project control, because we can't have a server disappearing out of the blue or given 24 hours to vacate it, etc20:01
mdfeI get it20:02
Stskeepshence why we're asking for money, not servers :)20:02
Stskeepshow are you doing otherwise?20:02
mdfeI just thought about it because I have a VM which isn't be used20:03
Stskeeps:nod:20:03
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bobweaverStskeeps,  it worked thanks again20:11
Stskeepsnp20:12
crevetor_Stskeeps: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/03/how-two-volunteers-built-the-raspberry-pis-operating-system/ I don't understand why they didn't use cross-compilation...20:16
Stskeepsare they talking about debian?20:16
Stskeepsbecause debian doesn't believe in cross compilation20:16
crevetor_Stskeeps: yeah20:16
Stskeepswhich is also why i'm shooting milk out my nose when thinking of productization of ubuntu phone20:17
Stskeeps:P20:17
crevetor_interesting. Why ?20:17
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crevetor_They're gonna run a massive farm of cheap arm servers building all day long20:17
dm8tbrwhich is funny because those are not raspis20:18
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Stskeepsi got it explained at some point but generally they consider cross compilation (even scratchbox like) too error prone for a distro20:18
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Stskeepsfrankly, i sleep fine at night using cross compilation for mer20:19
Stskeepsespecially considering the way we do it20:19
Stskeepsand we don't need to build 50k packages20:20
crevetor_yet20:20
Stskeepsi think we're beyond having to package everything under the sun, it was the 90's app store20:21
Stskeeps:P20:21
crevetor_Hell even android images are built using cross-compilation and I don't see many problems on those...20:21
Stskeepsyeah..20:22
Stskeepsi remember doing native arm builds of mer20:22
Stskeepsold mer, that is20:22
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crevetor_on the n900 ?20:26
Stskeepsno, did it in qemu-system-qemu20:26
Stskeepser, -arm20:27
crevetor_ok20:28
crevetor_must have been pretty slow20:28
Stskeepsyeah20:30
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zenvoid_nowadays, I also do native compilations20:35
zenvoid_multicore ARM boards with several GB of ram cost less than $9020:36
zenvoid_and it is faster than my single core desktop computer20:36
Stskeepsstill, i get a 24gb ram quad core with a terabyte of disk for 50 eur a month20:36
zenvoid_and I can buy 1 and a half new ARM server each month for the same price ;)20:38
Stskeepsmm20:39
* Stskeeps glances at qt spec20:40
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Bostikeek?20:43
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