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| zester | Any dev's around? | 04:23 |
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| wmarone_ | progress on nook wifi: drivers in kernel build, no progress. ti wlan drivers build, but omit wl12xx sdio support. driver package included with nook release builds strangely, with a billion symbols missing... | 06:17 |
| wmarone_ | more tomorrow | 06:17 |
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| kendrick | so is tux paint ported? ;) | 07:27 |
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| Stskeeps | urgh | 08:57 |
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| dm8tbr | mrrrrrgh | 09:10 |
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| chouchoune | morning | 09:22 |
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| gprade | hello, anyone there? | 09:29 |
| * timoph is somewhere :p | 09:32 | |
| timoph | but yeah. plenty of people here | 09:33 |
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| dm8tbr | still 10min at FOSDEM | 09:33 |
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| gprade | please help me, i am a absolute beginner in qt, i have an idea for an app, but i didnt find someone in my region who could help me, my english is not so good to work with international people, i am from germany, so i think i must write it self, but i have to start from absolute zero, for the app i have two questions | 09:36 |
| gprade | i want to have the app for tablet and for smartphone and i think i want to build it for mer/nemo | 09:36 |
| timoph | Qt is Qt no matter where you run it | 09:37 |
| timoph | I'd start looking into qml | 09:37 |
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| timoph | http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/qml-intro.html | 09:38 |
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| timoph | also good source for Qt stuff is http://developer.qt.nokia.com/ | 09:39 |
| gprade | ok thats the first question, i think about an app like teachertool for apple, should i start do the gui in qml or in this kind of old qt, like the old programms with this mainwindow.ui things | 09:39 |
| timoph | and #qt and #qt-qml here in freenode | 09:39 |
| gprade | the old qt-apps are build without qml | 09:39 |
| timoph | yep | 09:40 |
| gprade | i want to have my software for desktop-pc (notebooks) too | 09:40 |
| timoph | qml is not tied to mobile devices | 09:40 |
| timoph | but I'd say that's a design issue | 09:40 |
| timoph | keep the UI layer thin so you can provide different UIs for different targets if needed | 09:41 |
| gprade | what you mean with design issue? | 09:41 |
| timoph | designing the application so that the UI is easily replaceable | 09:41 |
| timoph | for example if there's a need to provide qwidgets based ui for desktops, etc | 09:42 |
| gprade | ok, then you say i have two ways for the ui? one in qml and one in old qt style? | 09:42 |
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| timoph | if you want/need to, yes | 09:43 |
| gprade | ok, thanks | 09:43 |
| timoph | but you can do it just with qml too | 09:43 |
| gprade | the second qeuestion | 09:43 |
| gprade | only with qml? works than the software on windows too? | 09:43 |
| gprade | or on mac? | 09:43 |
| gprade | or on mer? | 09:44 |
| timoph | Qt everywhere :) | 09:44 |
| timoph | it's a crossplatform toolkit | 09:44 |
| timoph | so not a Mer/Mac/whatever specific thing | 09:44 |
| gprade | ok, the second question is the database, do i use sqlite or mysql? wich will work on mer, windows, linux, mac? | 09:45 |
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| timoph | I'd urge you the read the Qt documentation. besides the db choice depends on your application and it's needs. | 09:46 |
| timoph | s/the/to/ | 09:46 |
| gprade | but which one will work on mer? is it the same with the ui? when i use qt it works one all??? | 09:47 |
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| timoph | also you'll get much better Qt support from #qt channel | 09:47 |
| timoph | dunno if anyone has packages mmysql for Mer | 09:47 |
| Stskeeps | sqlite is enabled | 09:48 |
| gprade | yes, but i want ask first here, so i dont start with the wrong things, i want that the software will work on mer | 09:48 |
| gprade | ok, then i use qml and sqlite, right? | 09:49 |
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| timoph | experiment and see what works for you needs | 09:49 |
| gprade | ok, thank for your help | 09:49 |
| timoph | np | 09:49 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: how's fosdem going? | 09:50 |
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| djszapi | Stskeeps: speaking of fosdem, do you know anything about Henri Bergius ? | 09:54 |
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| Stskeeps | djszapi: define know? | 10:08 |
| Stskeeps | he was in our devrom yesterday | 10:08 |
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| djszapi | Stskeeps: did not find him today, and he did not answer for the call either. | 10:25 |
| Stskeeps | ok, dunno | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | maybe he went earlier home | 10:27 |
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| zester | Good afterneen Mer folks :) | 18:52 |
| zester | afternoon | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | good afternoon zeste | 18:53 |
| Stskeeps | r | 18:53 |
| zester | :) PackageKit is evil!!!!!! | 18:53 |
| zester | I have done something cool. I have encrypted QML files being serverd over the internet from my Amazon S3 account like web pages. | 18:54 |
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| Stskeeps | cool | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | crazy, but cool ;) | 18:55 |
| zester | Well, I figured that hardware vendors might want to develop SAS apps using Qt and QML. | 18:56 |
| zester | Works nicely but! I have to figure out how to import(include) external QML libs | 18:57 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:58 |
| zester | I can defantly see removing QWidgets from Qt as a possability. | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 18:59 |
| * Stskeeps has to spend some time getting the mips port official tonight | 19:00 | |
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| zester | Anyone have any experance with Pandaboard ES? | 19:03 |
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| Stskeeps | pandaboard i know we have tried, not ES | 19:06 |
| RaYmAn | Stskeeps: what device is that on? (The mips port) | 19:06 |
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| zester | I was think of picking one up, was wondering what others though of pandaboard in general. | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | RaYmAn: generic O32 ABI, ie, for MIPS32 | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | RaYmAn: i don't have any hardware adaptations besides qemu yet | 19:08 |
| RaYmAn | ah | 19:08 |
| RaYmAn | fair enough :) | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | port it and they'll come, or smething ..;) | 19:09 |
| RaYmAn | hehe | 19:09 |
| RaYmAn | I finally gave in and ordered one of those cheap Ainol 7" tablets with MIPS, lol | 19:09 |
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| Stskeeps | ah, cool | 19:09 |
| RaYmAn | they just aren't good at releasing updated kernel source :( | 19:09 |
| RaYmAn | it runs 3.0.8 or something, but the latest source they have is 2.6.31 :P | 19:10 |
| wmarone_ | ah, china | 19:10 |
| wmarone_ | heh | 19:10 |
| RaYmAn | indeed. | 19:10 |
| Stskeeps | RaYmAn: http://developer.mips.com/android/ maybe | 19:11 |
| RaYmAn | yeah, there's a generic 3.x kernel there | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:11 |
| RaYmAn | so that still requires me bothering to port all the board-specific stuff to 3.x :) | 19:11 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:12 |
| zester | Ainol 7" tablets can you install Meggo on that(is it unlocked)? | 19:12 |
| zester | Meggo = Meego | 19:12 |
| zester | lol | 19:12 |
| Stskeeps | zester: mer, perhaps, it's MIPS | 19:13 |
| RaYmAn | it should be | 19:13 |
| RaYmAn | heck, they even include source for their usb low-level recovery tool | 19:13 |
| RaYmAn | well, the soc vendor does | 19:13 |
| zester | I was wondering because a lot of tablets wont let you install an alternative linux os on it. Some you can even update the android version on. | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | yes, but gles drivers is always a bit difficult | 19:14 |
| RaYmAn | I can't verify until I actually have it, but from what I can tell, it looks fairly open | 19:14 |
| RaYmAn | the stock Android 4.0 ICS rom is built in engineering mode, so it gives root over usb by default :P | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 19:14 |
| RaYmAn | so I would severely doubt that they locked it down :P | 19:15 |
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| RaYmAn | Stskeeps: yeah..the GPU vendor does mention X11 drivers and stuff, but they don't seem to be public :( | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps it is pretty much the developer.mips.com code | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | RaYmAn: i got some contacts today so i'll see where things lead | 19:17 |
| RaYmAn | Cool :) | 19:17 |
| RaYmAn | I should have this tablet in my hands in 2-4 weeks ;P | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 19:18 |
| Stskeeps | i'll help you try to get mer on there | 19:18 |
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| RaYmAn | Sounds good :) It should at least be possible to get unaccelerated | 19:19 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:20 |
| zester | Wow I have to find one in the us shipping is as much as the tablet is. | 19:24 |
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| Stskeeps | a lot of work to be done for non-android on it though | 19:25 |
| harbaum | what device are you talking about? | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | ainol 7" 99$ MIPS tablet | 19:26 |
| RaYmAn | zester: I went with focalprice.com..106$ incl shipping..but it'll take a month or so to get it then ;) | 19:27 |
| zester | Well as long as its possable for non android stuff I am game. | 19:27 |
| RaYmAn | nothing public right now, but if we can get drivers, it should be,heh | 19:29 |
| harbaum | i always thought angry birds is native code. i wouldn't expect that to run on mips | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: well, perhaps they used the MIPS NDK | 19:30 |
| RaYmAn | I don't think the market version works | 19:30 |
| RaYmAn | iirc it comes with a special angry birds build, lol | 19:30 |
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| harbaum | there indeed is a mips ndk ... but i doubt many people are using it. target audience is pretty small | 19:34 |
| RaYmAn | they probably managed to get some special deal | 19:34 |
| RaYmAn | I guess | 19:34 |
| RaYmAn | I think they might have some dynamic recompiler type thing as well | 19:35 |
| RaYmAn | emulator-style =P | 19:35 |
| harbaum | dynamic recompilation from arm to mips? sounds too much like voodoo for me | 19:36 |
| RaYmAn | indeed | 19:36 |
| RaYmAn | It might just have been people misunderstanding tbh | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | well, we do qemu-arm.. | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | so not entirely impossible | 19:37 |
| ShadowJK | they seem to port angry birds to everything these days | 19:37 |
| RaYmAn | Nothing is impossible ;P | 19:37 |
| RaYmAn | I wouldn't imagine it running particularly fast though | 19:37 |
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| harbaum | yeah, androids main purpose definitely is to be a angry birds runtime | 19:38 |
| _av500_ | [+1] | 19:38 |
| * wmarone_ throws rocks at wifi drivers | 19:38 | |
| wmarone_ | harbaum: it does an exceptional job at that ;) | 19:38 |
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| Stskeeps | http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/12/02/05/0422238/google-pulls-support-for-cdma-devices | 19:40 |
| Stskeeps | curious | 19:40 |
| RaYmAn | isn't it really just AOSP support for them? Because of license terms from the hardware vendors | 19:41 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, i guess so | 19:41 |
| RaYmAn | So it's a good thing they do it really | 19:41 |
| RaYmAn | well, it'd be better if they could slapdown the vendors into better terms but | 19:42 |
| RaYmAn | oh gee..the SoC vendor has actually released a linux dist for the SoC...but it's using SDL and wGui instead of x11 :/ | 19:48 |
| Stskeeps | for which? | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | ingenic? | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | or the GPU | 19:49 |
| RaYmAn | ingenic | 19:50 |
| RaYmAn | it's for the jz4770 soc | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | ingenic isn't the GPU vendor | 19:50 |
| RaYmAn | no, but they are the SoC vendor and presumably the GPU is inside the SoC package ;) | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | it isn't | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | it's vivante(?) | 19:50 |
| RaYmAn | So? :P | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | remember MIPS can do crazy things like pci :P | 19:51 |
| * Stskeeps ponders | 19:51 | |
| RaYmAn | heh, still though..size constraints and such | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | http://en.ingenic.cn/product.aspx?ID=78 | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | no GPU in it | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | or hmm | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | '3d gpu[' | 19:52 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, nevermind | 19:52 |
| RaYmAn | :P | 19:52 |
| _av500_ | there is ARM chips with PCI too | 19:53 |
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| Stskeeps | true | 19:53 |
| zester | Android MIPS looks to be using Myriad Dalvik turbo | 19:54 |
| _av500_ | mips is desperate | 19:54 |
| zester | Desperation is a good thing mabe that will presuade them to be more open with the community. | 19:57 |
| wmarone_ | mips can be as open as they want | 19:57 |
| wmarone_ | that doesn't help with GPU vendors | 19:57 |
| zester | GPU vendors are just dumb there only hurting them selfs. | 20:00 |
| _av500_ | mips should put arm mali gpus :) | 20:00 |
| wmarone_ | zester: doubtful, they seem to be doing quite well | 20:00 |
| wmarone_ | maybe lower end vendors looking to break into the market | 20:00 |
| wmarone_ | _av500_: once we have full es 2.0 drivers that'll be nice | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone_: any more movement on wifi? what kind issues do you run into? | 20:03 |
| wmarone_ | so I've got the firmware in the right spot | 20:03 |
| wmarone_ | but I'm balancing two sets of drivers, trying to figure out how to get one or the other to work | 20:03 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 20:04 |
| wmarone_ | one is the set that came with the kernel sources, which builds but spews a ton of undefined symbols and won't insmod | 20:04 |
| Stskeeps | okay, modprobe or insmod? | 20:04 |
| wmarone_ | insmod | 20:04 |
| wmarone_ | the other is the one vgrade pointed me to, which I can build and load but nothing twitches | 20:04 |
| _av500_ | what hw? | 20:04 |
| wmarone_ | the wl1271 in the nook color is attached via sdio, and his notes mention it, but I can't seem to get an sdio module out of the thing | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | did you check if any of the symbols are accesible through other modes? | 20:05 |
| wmarone_ | that or it's built in and just not doing it | 20:05 |
| wmarone_ | (or platform data isn't being communicated, which is also possible) | 20:05 |
| wmarone_ | Stskeeps: other modes? | 20:05 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone_: modules, sorry | 20:05 |
| wmarone_ | oh | 20:05 |
| wmarone_ | no the one spewing symbols turns out a single .ko and no other modules | 20:06 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 20:06 |
| wmarone_ | and the symbol names are very much not something found in the core kernel | 20:06 |
| Stskeeps | i was thinking kernel wise, as maybe mac80211 is a .ko | 20:06 |
| wmarone_ | right | 20:06 |
| Stskeeps | what kind of symbols were they? | 20:06 |
| wmarone_ | http://pastie.org/3323308 | 20:07 |
| wmarone_ | they look like something I would expect to find elsewhere in the TI code | 20:07 |
| Stskeeps | urgh | 20:08 |
| wmarone_ | so I'm looking to stick with the one that vgrade pointed me to | 20:08 |
| wmarone_ | which has a compatibility module for 2.6.32 | 20:08 |
| * Stskeeps http://lxr.post-tech.com/ident?i=hPlatform_DevicePowerOff | 20:09 | |
| Stskeeps | maybe a module not loaded or something | 20:11 |
| wmarone_ | likely | 20:11 |
| wmarone_ | but also not being built | 20:11 |
| wmarone_ | no | 20:11 |
| wmarone_ | it's being built, but where's it going... | 20:11 |
| wmarone_ | I must be doing something wrong | 20:13 |
| * Stskeeps glances at http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-system-distribution-guidelines.html | 20:13 | |
| wmarone_ | so each object needs symbols from the other...? | 20:13 |
| Stskeeps | not sure, i haven't seen the build tree | 20:14 |
| Stskeeps | i would assume ther would be ultiple .ko's built | 20:14 |
| wmarone_ | as would I | 20:14 |
| wmarone_ | but on the Android image there's only a single .ko | 20:15 |
| Stskeeps | and i'm going to assume it's not built into the kernel | 20:15 |
| wmarone_ | right | 20:15 |
| wmarone_ | if it was I would imagine it would be satisfied and load | 20:15 |
| Stskeeps | got a 'sdio.ko' thing | 20:16 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 20:16 |
| wmarone_ | not that I've run into | 20:16 |
| wmarone_ | https://github.com/verygreen/ti-wlan-encore | 20:16 |
| wmarone_ | that's the source tree | 20:16 |
| wmarone_ | wl1271/stad/ when built will produce the tiwlan_drv.ko | 20:17 |
| wmarone_ | wl1271/platform/os/linux will produce a tiwlan_drv.ko then mv it to a .o file | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | i don't have my nook along, what .ko's are on there? | 20:17 |
| wmarone_ | only the tiwlan_drv.ko | 20:17 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 20:18 |
| timoph | Stskeeps: some progress tonight - http://timoph.fi/mermiccr2.png | 20:18 |
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| Stskeeps | timoph: congrats :) | 20:19 |
| timoph | :) | 20:19 |
| timoph | doesn't look pretty but at least it didn't crash :p | 20:20 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 20:20 |
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| yavkata | hi, I | 21:34 |
| Stskeeps | hello :) | 21:34 |
| yavkata | I ordered an n9 recently, and I was wondring how is Nemo coming along | 21:34 |
| Stskeeps | fairly well, though it's difficutl to support n9 sanely for various reasons | 21:35 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 21:35 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/user/nsuffys?blend=1&ob=0 | 21:36 |
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| yavkata | :) | 21:38 |
| yavkata | I know the OMAP platform has some closed source stuff, but it's practically the same for n9 and n950, right? | 21:38 |
| Stskeeps | right, the problem isn't really hardware adaptation in that regard, it's the fact that officially there's no way to re-flash your device aftwards | 21:39 |
| Stskeeps | with a firmware image | 21:39 |
| Stskeeps | of course people have it running anyway, but.. | 21:40 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:40 |
| yavkata | hmm | 21:40 |
| yavkata | so once I flash it with nemo, there's no way to revert back to harmattan? | 21:40 |
| yavkata | is that what you're saying? | 21:40 |
| Stskeeps | officially, right | 21:41 |
| Stskeeps | http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=4728 discusses the problem | 21:42 |
| Stskeeps | unofficially there's always a way | 21:42 |
| yavkata | thanks for the link :) | 21:43 |
| Stskeeps | i wouldn't have bought a n9 if i didn't think i could hack it suficiently | 21:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:43 |
| yavkata | me too! | 21:43 |
| yavkata | well, I wasn't sure, but I always had a lot of faith in the community :) | 21:43 |
| Stskeeps | so what are you hoping to do with it? | 21:43 |
| yavkata | well, I wanted to have a phone running a community managed linux distro :) | 21:44 |
| yavkata | with all the benefits from that | 21:44 |
| yavkata | crazy stuff like apache, metasploit, aircrack | 21:44 |
| yavkata | It's been a dream of mine for a long time | 21:45 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 21:45 |
| yavkata | and I was really wondering for a long time whether to buy a n900 or n9 | 21:45 |
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| yavkata | in the end, I decided that n9 was the better choice, because it had better hardware | 21:45 |
| yavkata | n900s are nowadays difficult to get anyway | 21:45 |
| yavkata | and are getting more and more expensive.. | 21:46 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 21:46 |
| Stskeeps | they still sell them here in .pl | 21:47 |
| yavkata | well, I searched on ebay and new ones are around 350$ | 21:48 |
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| yavkata | I managed to get a n9 64gb for 550 | 21:48 |
| yavkata | and that was pretty awesome :) | 21:48 |
| yavkata | one more question | 21:49 |
| yavkata | what's the difference between cold flash and warm flash? | 21:50 |
| yavkata | is it always possible to cold flash the device even though it's bricked and won't boot | 21:50 |
| Stskeeps | cold flash is a way to connect to the omap boot loader over usb and flash from scratch practically | 21:50 |
| Stskeeps | this image has to be signed in head and toe though | 21:51 |
| yavkata | so you can always cold flash official firmware? | 21:52 |
| Stskeeps | -usually-, i don't want to give any promises | 21:53 |
| Stskeeps | but traditionally these devices are damn hard to brick | 21:53 |
| Stskeeps | i've done obscene things to my n900 and it stood up | 21:53 |
| yavkata | that's good to know :) | 21:54 |
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| yavkata | and what about nemo itself? Does it support phone functions? | 21:57 |
| Stskeeps | yes it does | 21:57 |
| yavkata | awesome :) | 21:58 |
| yavkata | can't wait to make the switch.. | 21:59 |
| yavkata | I actually found instructions online to flash nemo to the n9 | 21:59 |
| yavkata | http://mynokiablog.com/2012/01/15/howto-nemo-on-the-nokia-n9/ | 21:59 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 21:59 |
| Stskeeps | just be aware this is not as published experience as a commercial product | 21:59 |
| yavkata | but I'm pretty sure these instructions are for the 16 gb version | 21:59 |
| yavkata | that's not a problem for me | 22:00 |
| yavkata | I want something that's not locked and dumbed down | 22:01 |
| yavkata | I don't care if it has swype and stuff.. | 22:01 |
| Stskeeps | and that due to feb11, kernel is unlikely to go beyond 2.6.32 without significant community involvement | 22:01 |
| yavkata | :) | 22:01 |
| Stskeeps | not because of closed source kernel drivers, but simply because the upstreaming of the device kernel didn't happen sufficiently since erm, people left the building | 22:02 |
| yavkata | I see | 22:03 |
| Stskeeps | we have .37 with working power management etc on n900, a lot upstreamed, compared to maemo5's old .28 | 22:03 |
| yavkata | but it should still be possible to move to newer kernels with a bunch of patches, right? | 22:03 |
| Stskeeps | it should, but we found out with the n900 that even with the people who wrote the original code it can be a significant chore | 22:04 |
| Sage | too bad the 3.0 kernel for n900 didn't finish before people left :/ | 22:05 |
| Stskeeps | well, we got it to some level | 22:05 |
| Sage | yes, but it is not usable yet :/ | 22:05 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 22:05 |
| Sage | would be nice if we would have comparison of kernels for n900 and what is actually missing. | 22:06 |
| Sage | Does our 2.6.37 kernel have all the same functionalities than the .28 had? | 22:06 |
| Stskeeps | it's fairly close, at least | 22:07 |
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| yavkata | I still don't understand what are the other obstacles to updating the kernel besides closed source drivers.. | 22:08 |
| Stskeeps | yavkata: when you get to bleeding edge mobile technology, it's significantly harder than many people seem to think | 22:09 |
| Stskeeps | yavkata: as an example, the omap power management framework isn't after 2-3 years accepted in linux mainline yet | 22:09 |
| Stskeeps | and without that, well, you can say bye to anything over 4 hours of battery | 22:09 |
| yavkata | right... | 22:10 |
| yavkata | damn, that sux :( | 22:11 |
| Stskeeps | it does, but more and more things get properly upstreamed | 22:11 |
| Stskeeps | so the tide is turning a bit | 22:11 |
| yavkata | :) | 22:11 |
| yavkata | well, I bought the n9 believeing it's the device with the best chance of a fully open OS | 22:12 |
| _av500_ | Stskeeps: at least debian isnt deprecating your arch soon :) | 22:12 |
| yavkata | I hope I wasn't wrong, cause I'll be stuck with this phone for a while | 22:13 |
| yavkata | after all, I'm just a poor CS student from .bg :D | 22:13 |
| Stskeeps | _av500_: these days i don't care that much about that, i can fairly easily do a armv4t port if i wanted :P | 22:13 |
| Stskeeps | but i'm not expecting others to carry that burden | 22:14 |
| Stskeeps | (i do have a freerunner..) | 22:15 |
| _av500_ | Stskeeps: isnt there a more modern kernel for n9/950, thats the same cpu as 900, no? | 22:17 |
| Stskeeps | _av500_: it's comparable to beagleboard xm | 22:18 |
| _av500_ | so | 22:18 |
| Stskeeps | _av500_: so, it's not impossible someone can slap something together that will work, and have PM | 22:18 |
| Stskeeps | but it will be significant work | 22:19 |
| Stskeeps | and i'm not a kernel developer :) | 22:19 |
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| yavkata | I'm guessing that pm is not integrater in Nemo, is it? | 22:20 |
| Stskeeps | we have same kernel as is in harmattan | 22:20 |
| yavkata | :) | 22:20 |
| yavkata | more good news | 22:20 |
| _av500_ | Stskeeps: what kernel rev is that? | 22:20 |
| Stskeeps | _av500_: 2.6.32.something | 22:21 |
| _av500_ | Stskeeps: we have a .35 that does pm | 22:21 |
| Stskeeps | in n900 we have 2.6.37 with a bunch of patches on top (product was .28) | 22:21 |
| _av500_ | Stskeeps: i hope mer compliance does not ask for 3.0.X :) | 22:22 |
| Stskeeps | _av500_: what mer compliance? ;) | 22:22 |
| _av500_ | Stskeeps: cant remember why that always in ma head :) | 22:22 |
| Stskeeps | i think our kernel headers are at .37 or something | 22:22 |
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| Sage | I think only requirement comes from systemd that "requires" .37 kernel officially but there are backported patches for .32 at least | 22:29 |
| Sage | ok, time to sleep. | 22:29 |
| * Sage zzZZZZZzzzZZzZZZzZzZZZzzz | 22:29 | |
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| Stskeeps | ooh, A day made of glass -2-: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZkHpNnXLB0&feature=player_embedded | 23:26 |
| cxl000 | Is there a public n900 kernel git? Is the work towards 3.x available? | 23:30 |
| Stskeeps | cxl000: it's on gitorious somewhere | 23:30 |
| cxl000 | I had seen a reference to there but it did not exist and subsequent searching has so far been unsuccessful. | 23:35 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 23:35 |
| Stskeeps | http://meego.gitorious.org/meego-device-adaptation/n900_kernel/commits/n9xx-v3.0-wip | 23:36 |
| cxl000 | thanks | 23:43 |
| kimju | not really a wip anymore, at least I haven't touched it for couple of months now. | 23:44 |
| kimju | getting the sgx forward ported to current 3.3rc needs more work, but that should then get a working cpufreq/pm.. | 23:45 |
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