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| iekku | morning | 05:56 |
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| dm8tbr | moaning | 05:58 |
| Bostik | vgrade: nice work with the webkit build, I've been working with and subjected to the fallout of make-package.py results (difference in tarball size: 667MB vs. 24MB) | 06:00 |
| Stskeeps | i also have a patch for debugging symbols for webkit, makes the build a lot lighter | 06:01 |
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| Stskeeps | Bostik: http://review.merproject.org/gitweb?p=mer-core/qtwebkit.git;a=blobdiff;f=qtwebkit.spec;h=aad3f841b94ad6677aa745cd03b059f4dee3b8b5;hp=107213762cb9ca692e783737a2a9a6510d78ecde;hb=4e6af861564bfb27e38fd323e5bbaf5a09e3856f;hpb=41307c4b2e4db08461d74d2f6f3d84e338f923c0 | 06:12 |
| Stskeeps | second part | 06:12 |
| Stskeeps | drops compressed debug symbols from 250 to 50 mb | 06:12 |
| Bostik | oi | 06:13 |
| Bostik | that's neat | 06:13 |
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| Bostik | I'll add that to my spec :) | 06:16 |
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| Stskeeps | the >> build pre stuff in question :) | 06:16 |
| Bostik | yeah, exactly that | 06:18 |
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| Stskeeps | morn bergie | 06:33 |
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| vgrade | morning | 06:58 |
| Jucato | moaning | 07:00 |
| vgrade | dm8tbr ping | 07:04 |
| vgrade | dm8tbr, hi | 07:05 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: that wordcloud link isn't working very well | 07:06 |
| Stskeeps | ah, there | 07:06 |
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| dm8tbr | vgrade: moaning | 07:34 |
| dm8tbr | vgrade: need a directory? :) | 07:34 |
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| vgrade | yes mate, N950 please | 07:34 |
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| Stskeeps | morn lamikr | 07:39 |
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| lamikr | Stskeeps Morning | 07:44 |
| kyb3R | morning | 07:48 |
| dm8tbr | vgrade: added you to the 'n900' group which has write access to the n900 and n950 directories | 07:49 |
| vgrade | dm8tbr, thanks | 07:51 |
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| Stskeeps | morn harbaum | 08:09 |
| alterego | Guten tag, Ich bin eine Berliner. | 08:13 |
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| slaine | morning all | 08:14 |
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| Stskeeps | morn alterego, slaine | 08:16 |
| slaine | looks like vgrade has been on fire this last weewk | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: what was the last stopping point for the obs stuff | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 08:17 |
| slaine | iirc, we agreed a proper structure for the local obs project and I've to get time to implement that, so home:glen:i586, home:glen:armv7hl etc. | 08:17 |
| vgrade | alterego, slaine morning | 08:18 |
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| slaine | vgrade: hey, nice work | 08:18 |
| vgrade | image is up now , http://images.formeego.org/n950/plasma-active/ | 08:18 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: ah good | 08:21 |
| xruxa | how do people manage to use ~gitYYYMMDD in the versions of packages ... that is not allowed, is it? | 08:22 |
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| Stskeeps | xruxa: we cheat and do ~git<amount of commits>.<shortened sha> | 08:24 |
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| xruxa | Stskeeps: but still the '~' char is the issue, isn't it? | 08:24 |
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| Stskeeps | not in meego/mer | 08:27 |
| Stskeeps | 4.8~foo < 4.8 | 08:27 |
| xruxa | just that osc refuses submit anything with those in version for me :( Says source_validator doe snot allow that :( | 08:28 |
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| xruxa | hmmmm obs build says "Nothing provides qt-core >= 4.7.4" but works with 4.7.0. We do have 4.8~something, how is that possible ... | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | xruxa: osc commit has a flag for ignoring source validator | 08:38 |
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| Stskeeps | slaine: happen to have a draft on OBS setup in general yet? | 08:42 |
| slaine | Yup, I documented as I went Stskeeps, then I started from scratch to make sure I didn't miss anything (and I had :) ) | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | feel free to put it on the mer wiki | 08:43 |
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| alterego | What's the state of Mer on N9? | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | http://jon.severinsson.net/NemoN9/ | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | still somewhere to go for hardware adaptation though | 09:04 |
| alterego | Thank you :) | 09:04 |
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| jarkko^ | llvmpipe would be perfect fit for qemu images of linuxes | 10:38 |
| jarkko^ | mer, meego, tizen whatever | 10:38 |
| jarkko^ | good compromise between performance and working out-of-the-box | 10:38 |
| jarkko^ | don't need to have any kind of special version of qemu | 10:38 |
| jarkko^ | would have sufficient performance for many development cases | 10:39 |
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| smoku | vgrade: plasma on n950 looks *very* cool :) | 11:03 |
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| vgrade | smoku, just need the dialer | 11:31 |
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| _av500_ | hmm, https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=kernel-adaptation-archos-gen9&project=Project%3AKDE%3AMer_Extras | 13:13 |
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| slaine | vgrade is QtMediahub a QML demo only or does it actually play content ? | 14:03 |
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| gabrbedd | does mer have any mailing lists or anything? | 14:04 |
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| veskuh | gabrbedd: see wiki: http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Main_Page | 14:07 |
| veskuh | gabrbedd: mailing lists http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Mailing_lists | 14:08 |
| gabrbedd | veskuh: thanks! | 14:08 |
| berndhs | assuming I'm subscribed correctly, the volume on the mailing list rivals the official tizen announcements | 14:09 |
| veskuh | berndhs: true | 14:09 |
| slaine | Oh cool, there's a mailing list now | 14:09 |
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| veskuh | the infrastructure stuff has not been promoted yet | 14:13 |
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| slaine | Stskeeps: when creating my local armv7hl project, should I call it armv7hl or should I call it armv8el ? | 14:26 |
| slaine | I'm still confused as to what OBS step requires the armv8el step | 14:27 |
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| Stskeeps | armv7hl, project name doesnt do anything functional | 14:35 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: what about the project arch ? | 14:44 |
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| gabrbedd | berndhs: well, it looks a smidgeon more active than meego-community ATM. :-) | 14:45 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: ? | 14:50 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: that matters | 14:50 |
| slaine | so I'll leave that as armv8el | 14:51 |
| Stskeeps | a handy reference is the url in topic about building against mer in cobs | 14:51 |
| slaine | is there anything I have to do to OBS to let it know how to build armv8el ? i.e. what the gcc options are | 14:52 |
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| slaine | 'cause once I import into i586, it starts building, once I import into armv7hl, it does nothing | 14:58 |
| slaine | my guess is that it doesn't know how to process <arch>armv8el</arch> | 14:58 |
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| slaine | lbt: any suggestions | 15:02 |
| lbt | mmm | 15:02 |
| slaine | cobs must have had some tweaks to it to get armv8el settings on there | 15:03 |
| lbt | :) | 15:03 |
| lbt | well, I'm doing a local 2.3 OBS/Mer deployment from scratch today | 15:03 |
| lbt | I've not gotten to the schedulers yet | 15:03 |
| slaine | lbt, as have I been, and documenting it | 15:04 |
| lbt | cool - where? | 15:04 |
| slaine | local text file | 15:04 |
| slaine | I'll be putting it on the wiki once it's verified | 15:04 |
| lbt | OK - I'm looking at http://wiki.meego.com/Build_Infrastructure/Sysadmin_Distro/OBS_setup_openSUSE114 | 15:04 |
| slaine | but the schedulers part for doing armv7hl builds is eluding me | 15:05 |
| lbt | so... | 15:06 |
| lbt | do you have an armvel scheduler running | 15:06 |
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| lbt | check OBS_SCHEDULER_ARCHITECTURES="..." in /etc/sysconfig/obs-server ? | 15:07 |
| slaine | Yeah, just spotted that in the docs, was about to post it here | 15:09 |
| slaine | I'll check | 15:09 |
| lbt | OBS_SCHEDULER_ARCHITECTURES="i586 x86_64 armv7el armv8el" on cobs FWIW | 15:10 |
| slaine | cool, that's what I just put in mine (well, I removed x86_64) | 15:10 |
| slaine | giving it another shot | 15:10 |
| lbt | (it's useful for building tools) | 15:10 |
| slaine | Hmm, ok, I'll put it back | 15:11 |
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| vgrade | slaine, it does do media just not on the trimslice due to missing video bits for tegra | 15:13 |
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| niqt | i have started https://www.gitorious.org/meecalendar two month ago (for meego CE), do you think that it's is useful also for nemo? | 15:32 |
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| arc_mat | yo | 15:35 |
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| dm8tbr | hoho | 15:37 |
| arc_mat | hehe | 15:37 |
| arc_mat | all the same faces, on all the same channels ;) | 15:37 |
| mdfe_ | ;) | 15:38 |
| arc_mat | maybe someone can help me out with a question: in the mer obs build, what is the definition on armv7el, armv8el archs? | 15:38 |
| arc_mat | oh, I see, bug #15902 ;) | 15:40 |
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| dm8tbr | arc_mat: armv8 is armv7 with hardfloat in disguise | 15:40 |
| arc_mat | and what is armv7hl, then? | 15:40 |
| arc_mat | I thought that was "armv7 arch, hardfp and le"? | 15:41 |
| dm8tbr | arc_mat: next SDE will be mer+plasma-active? :) | 15:41 |
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| dm8tbr | I guess Stskeeps is the know-it-all on those things | 15:42 |
| vgrade | armv7el and armv8el are the OBS scheduler names used. armv7el bulds armv7l and armv6l (soft fp ABI) and armv8e builds armv7hl (hard fp) | 15:42 |
| arc_mat | vgrade: ok, thanks | 15:42 |
| vgrade | don't know what we are going to do when we start building for the new armv8 parts | 15:43 |
| arc_mat | vgrade: cry, I guess.. | 15:43 |
| vgrade | hopefully not an armv9el | 15:43 |
| dm8tbr | the good thing is that they are still a bit down the road, but yes... | 15:43 |
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| dm8tbr | a sustainable solution would be nice | 15:44 |
| mdfe_ | yepp | 15:44 |
| arc_mat | +1 is not sustainable ? ;) | 15:44 |
| dm8tbr | it is, with considerable work markup ;) | 15:44 |
| vgrade | mdfe_ hi | 15:44 |
| mdfe_ | vgrade: hi :) | 15:44 |
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| mdfe_ | awesome work with the N950 | 15:45 |
| vgrade | any of you guys tried it | 15:45 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: so I guess we build armv7el (obs speak)? and switch to armv8el when the situation about the SGX hardfp libraries has cleared up? | 15:45 |
| vgrade | just integrating the great work on Mer and Plasma | 15:45 |
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| mdfe_ | I will, but sadly I'm totally busy | 15:45 |
| mdfe_ | arc_mat: agreed | 15:46 |
| dm8tbr | arc_mat: that seems to be the silent consensus | 15:46 |
| arc_mat | dm8tbr: maybe no that silent, even ;) | 15:46 |
| vgrade | there are some stats on the linaro site re hard vs softfp | 15:46 |
| mdfe_ | arc_mat: plasma active build for armv7el based on Mer_Core_armv7l will be finished soon | 15:46 |
| arc_mat | dm8tbr: I heard that hardfp brings considerable fps gain, so it's probably worth it | 15:47 |
| arc_mat | then again other people tell me that this is all rubbish ;) | 15:47 |
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| dm8tbr | arc_mat: I also heard that the n900 meego adaptation had some 'noticeable' performance gain. dunno if it was measured though | 15:48 |
| vgrade | povray benchies showed a x4 to x7 increase but other benchies showed little improvement | 15:48 |
| dm8tbr | yeah, but I seldomly let povray render my UX in real time ;) | 15:48 |
| mdfe_ | we should find I better solution for the architecture name soon, it is too confusing at the moment | 15:48 |
| arc_mat | vgrade: oh, povray. that should benefit of course, it's a lot of floating point work. | 15:49 |
| vgrade | yea | 15:49 |
| dm8tbr | real gains will be somewhat less, but could be still noticeable, once there are more hfp drivers | 15:49 |
| arc_mat | vgrade: depending on the opengl implementation, there is also something to gain, I think | 15:49 |
| dm8tbr | too bad omap3 and tegra2 are the only ones at the moment | 15:50 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: it might make sense to adopt -mfpu=neon, but let's check on that later | 15:51 |
| vgrade | and omap4 I think | 15:51 |
| mdfe_ | arc_mat: ok | 15:51 |
| vgrade | https://wiki.linaro.org/OfficeofCTO/HardFloat/Benchmarks | 15:52 |
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| arc_mat | looks like the only relevant improvements are with povray, everything else is only slightly faster or even slightly slower | 15:56 |
| arc_mat | the whole gtkperf stuff is screwed anyway | 15:57 |
| dm8tbr | I'd like to see side by side comparisons on a device | 15:57 |
| arc_mat | indeed | 15:57 |
| vgrade | cxl000 was bulding glmark2 hard and soft for mer | 15:58 |
| slaine | didn't linaro do these tests and decided that hardfp made enough of a difference for it to be the standard ? | 15:58 |
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| lbt | Stskeeps: ping .... fakeobs is failing somehow on osc build | 16:01 |
| lbt | looking into it atm | 16:02 |
| mdfe_ | lbt: hi, is there any solution for the missing disk space to build monsters like e.g. qt? | 16:04 |
| lbt | actually I saw something that may help | 16:04 |
| mdfe_ | :) | 16:05 |
| mdfe_ | it would be awesome | 16:05 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: give me an error\ | 16:14 |
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| lbt | osc -A cobs api /source/Mer:fake:Core:i586/_meta | 16:14 |
| lbt | response validation error: Start tag expected, '<' not found | 16:14 |
| lbt | running "osc build" | 16:15 |
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| Stskeeps | does builds work on obs itself? | 16:15 |
| lbt | not trying that yet | 16:15 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:16 |
| lbt | waiting for RAM in post :) | 16:16 |
| lbt | I'm carrying on looking at it .... just FYI in case you know what it is | 16:16 |
| Stskeeps | i can first investigate later tonight | 16:16 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: hi, I ran into a toolchain bug for Mer_Core_armv7hl; armv8el | 16:16 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: excellent | 16:16 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: not really but any idea where should I send a bug report? | 16:17 |
| slaine | Initial draft available online at my server for now, http://slaine.org/files/OBS_Setup.txt | 16:17 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: check curl http://shell:8001/public/source/Core:i586/_meta | 16:17 |
| arc_mat | slaine: well if they decided based on the benchmarks vgrade posted above, I want some of what they smoked. | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: mer mailing list | 16:18 |
| mdfe_ | hihi | 16:18 |
| mdfe_ | ok | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | arc_mat: hardfp gave a visible fps/interactive improvement for us | 16:18 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: measurable? | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | and its just far saner to use float registers in function passing | 16:19 |
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| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: mer-general@lists.merproject.org? | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | arc_mat: yes, fps measurements, objective not subjective | 16:19 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: yes | 16:19 |
| mdfe_ | thx | 16:19 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: but that's not in the link posted above, from linaro, I guess? | 16:20 |
| Stskeeps | arc_mat: i am on my n950 so cant see it | 16:20 |
| arc_mat | https://wiki.linaro.org/OfficeofCTO/HardFloat/Benchmarks | 16:20 |
| Stskeeps | nor click urls that easily | 16:20 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:20 |
| arc_mat | heh | 16:20 |
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| Stskeeps | arc_mat: either way, we arent hung up on abis in mer, we support both | 16:26 |
| slaine | Time to commute, I'll be around again on Thursday | 16:29 |
| vgrade | mdfe_ your gcc bug in that webkit 2.2 package, I noticed it yesterday | 16:29 |
| Sage_ | gcc: error: unrecognized option '--soname,../../../../system/players/dvdplayer/avformat-52-i486-linux.so' | 16:30 |
| Stskeeps | slaine: thanks for the txt | 16:30 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: ^ Faced that with mer? | 16:30 |
| slaine | Stskeeps: thanks for the help | 16:30 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: not offhand | 16:30 |
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| Sage_ | Just enabled my old xbmc compile and all builds stopped to that. | 16:30 |
| Sage_ | Last compile was with meego 1.2 probably | 16:31 |
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| Sage_ | Mainly wondering if there is some general fix for that with the newer gcc | 16:32 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: hmm, the kernel config might need more tweaking. I see that the omap3 stuff is enabled together with omap4. not sure that's a good idea. It's not a maintained configuration | 16:35 |
| arc_mat | we hacked around a bit to have SMP_ON_UP support and stuff, but it's not "production" quality, you know... | 16:36 |
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| mdfe_ | arc_mat: do you have the time to create and send me a more suiting config? | 16:39 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: just looking into it | 16:39 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: we will probably also update the kernel on git slightly to have the debug uart included for all devices... | 16:40 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: because it looks like there is no support for that yet | 16:41 |
| mdfe_ | arc_mat: this would be awesome | 16:41 |
| Stskeeps | archos devices? | 16:41 |
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| arc_mat | Stskeeps: yup | 16:44 |
| Stskeeps | cool | 16:44 |
| mdfe_ | absolutely cool :) | 16:48 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: i presume the sigsegv is unrelated to cobs tmpfs workers | 16:48 |
| mdfe_ | uh | 16:48 |
| mdfe_ | Ok, this means I can build on my local machine and public the package? | 16:49 |
| mdfe_ | publish | 16:49 |
| Stskeeps | no, i am just trying to rootcause: it happens on all cobs workers? | 16:49 |
| mdfe_ | I see | 16:49 |
| mdfe_ | sorry | 16:49 |
| Stskeeps | ie, every time? | 16:49 |
| mdfe_ | sadly yes | 16:50 |
| mdfe_ | I tried it about four times | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | a reproducable bug is a good thing | 16:50 |
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| mdfe_ | and every time at the same line | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | chances are similar issue appears elsewhere | 16:51 |
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| Stskeeps | mdfe_: this is qtwebkit 2.2 | 16:52 |
| Stskeeps | \ | 16:52 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 16:52 |
| mdfe_ | yepp it is | 16:52 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 16:54 |
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| arc_mat | mdfe_: we'll push a new kernel tomorrow | 17:00 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: late afternoon I guess | 17:00 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: regarding the kernel config, please use the linux.config from inside the git repo as your base, not the linux_devel.config | 17:01 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: you'll need to do the commandline change again, of course | 17:01 |
| mdfe_ | arc_mat: greate thanks :) | 17:01 |
| mord | on se kyllä niinkin, unsigned kun on | 17:04 |
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| mord | err, wrong chan | 17:04 |
| mdfe_ | lbt: you are overhauling some workerstuff ? because only one is available at the moment | 17:04 |
| lbt | it's a good one though! | 17:05 |
| lbt | apparently the worker code notices changes on the backend and pulls in the new code without waiting for me to test it | 17:06 |
| lbt | hint ... this is a bad idea | 17:06 |
| mdfe_ | lbt: just take the time you need | 17:06 |
| lbt | well, that's now patched to allow local overrides of tmpfs | 17:07 |
| lbt | so pub4 has 10Gb tmpfs and 8Gb RAM | 17:07 |
| lbt | also has 12 cores dedicated to 1 job.... and it's preferred for Qt | 17:07 |
| mdfe_ | :) | 17:07 |
| mdfe_ | sound awesome | 17:07 |
| mdfe_ | sounds | 17:08 |
| lbt | 16 cores | 17:08 |
| lbt | so yeah , should now build Qt | 17:08 |
| mdfe_ | :) | 17:09 |
| mdfe_ | *finger crossing* | 17:09 |
| lbt | I need to tell the schedulers too | 17:09 |
| mdfe_ | brb | 17:10 |
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| _av500_ | mdfe_: if you need help wrt the kernel, feel free to ping me | 17:26 |
| _av500_ | (since I do the GPL releases) | 17:26 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: I can see that it boots into the rootfs | 17:30 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: please also add "rootwait" to the commandline | 17:30 |
| lbt | mdfe_: retry qt sometime | 17:30 |
| lbt | it should hit pubworker04 and be OK there | 17:30 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: I'll log the console output and send it to you, maybe it helps | 17:32 |
| mdfe_ | _av500_: greate thanks, I will do this if I need help | 17:34 |
| mdfe_ | arc_mat: awesome, in between I have triggert a new image build for armv7l | 17:34 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: can you point me to a working linux config, maybe from the tegra2 build? | 17:35 |
| mdfe_ | lbt: rebuild is in progress, lets see if it works :) | 17:35 |
| lbt | nah - it went to the wrong worker | 17:35 |
| mdfe_ | arc_mat: mom | 17:35 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: seems there is a lot of dependencies for meego that we didn't enable, like inotify and stuff | 17:35 |
| lbt | yay - right one this time | 17:36 |
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| mdfe_ | arc_mat: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=config-adaptation-tegra&package=kernel-adaptation-tegra&project=Project%3AKDE%3AMer_Extras&srcmd5=37291c812b92878dba97b5b9dad0a5a8 | 17:36 |
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| arc_mat | mdfe_: thanks. "let's see what we can do" ;) | 17:38 |
| mdfe_ | arc_mat: greate thanks :) | 17:38 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: fakeobs still messing up? | 17:55 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: looks OK to me | 17:56 |
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| Stskeeps | mdfe_: give me the project name your qtwebkit is in, please | 17:56 |
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| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: Project:KDE:Mer_Extras | 17:57 |
| Stskeeps | thanks | 17:57 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm going to replicate on my own setup | 17:57 |
| Stskeeps | and follow up on mailing list | 17:58 |
| mdfe_ | np, I will send you submit request in future | 17:58 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: osc -A cobs co Mer:fake:Core:i586 acl | 17:58 |
| lbt | cd Mer:fake:Core:i586/acl | 17:58 |
| mdfe_ | for all updated stuff | 17:58 |
| lbt | osc repos | 17:58 |
| lbt | response validation error: Start tag expected, '<' not found | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: yes, that's a OBS bug | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: it can't see repos over the wire AFAIK | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: could you try it just now while i'm observing the nohup.log? | 17:59 |
| lbt | hence : osc build fails :) | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: AFAIK that happened on api.meego.com too | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | cstore-vlan110.in.meego.com - - [07/Nov/2011 17:59:36] "GET /public/source/Core:i586/acl/_meta HTTP/1.1" 200 - | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | cstore-vlan110.in.meego.com - - [07/Nov/2011 17:59:38] "GET /public/source/Core:i586/_meta HTTP/1.1" 200 - | 17:59 |
| lbt | fakeobs is looking OK | 18:00 |
| mdfe_ | arc_mat: greate thanks for the archos boot log :) | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: http://pastie.org/2826483 | 18:00 |
| lbt | yep | 18:00 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: bug in OBS.. make a project, add the repos as repos | 18:01 |
| lbt | mmm | 18:01 |
| lbt | are you suggesting a workaround or a way to tickle the bug? | 18:02 |
| Stskeeps | i'm suggesting a workaround | 18:02 |
| Stskeeps | it's a bug in OBS, we deliver perfectly fine data | 18:02 |
| Stskeeps | i think i saw it on api.meego.com link too | 18:02 |
| lbt | OK, I see | 18:02 |
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| Stskeeps | 'lo harri :) | 18:20 |
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| harha | hello Carsten | 18:21 |
| harha | You seem to have full house here | 18:21 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, yeah - a fair bunch of activity - from N900/N950/N9 we have this place and #nemomobile | 18:21 |
| harha | It looks like someone may have additions to pandaboard section on wiki .. | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, sage finally succeeded with the pvr chip on pnada | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | panda | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | looking forward to seeing how it runs in practice | 18:23 |
| harha | yep | 18:23 |
| wmarone_ | oh? hardfp drivers for the SGX540? | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | wmarone_: we have softfp mer too | 18:23 |
| harha | Do you know if linaro has been working on hard fp ? | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | yes they have, though i'm not sure what their latest status is | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | fedora, opensuse is hardfp now at least | 18:24 |
| vgrade | arch also have it | 18:24 |
| harha | Do they have SGX drivers ? | 18:24 |
| Stskeeps | don't think they're at that level yet | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | of the graphics chips drivers, i've seen nvidia tegra2 and iMX/freescale having hardfp drivers | 18:25 |
| harha | ... | 18:25 |
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| Stskeeps | which is probably the least likely i had expected to be first with those drivers :) | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | so, in due time, perhaps | 18:26 |
| Stskeeps | meanwhile, mer builds for both | 18:27 |
| mdfe_ | lbt: greate thanks, qt build on pubworker04 (x86_64) was successfully :) | 18:29 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: ah, qtwebkit is such a lovely 770mb.. | 18:29 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: yepp, sadly it is really huge and I added a source service | 18:30 |
| vgrade | 770MB of source! | 18:31 |
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| Stskeeps | lbt: where on earth does lighttpd/obs put files while they're being uploaded? | 18:35 |
| berndhs | there was talk a few days ago on qt-project, qtwebkit2 needs > 8GB memory to compile | 18:37 |
| Stskeeps | better build time than runtime | 18:38 |
| berndhs | so for many people, don't try this at home | 18:38 |
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| berndhs | sure its better at compile time if it runs efficiently | 18:38 |
| harha | Stskeeps: Is there any easy way to compile those sgx drivers for hardfb without OBS (if someone has access to sources) ? | 18:40 |
| harha | Or would it be local copy of OBS ? | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | harha: it's easy to build them yes if you have the sources, like we do in N900 but they're usually dependent on specific SoC's | 18:44 |
| harha | yes they are .. | 18:45 |
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| harha | Stskeeps: if someone has build android adaptation to omap4 based device, I quess that adaptation does not include those drivers ? | 18:47 |
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| Stskeeps | harha: uncertain, it may and it may not, may be the same source tree | 18:48 |
| anYc | hi, is there any source I can poll for the status of the n900-adaption? | 18:48 |
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| Stskeeps | anYc: #nemomobile , but feel free to ask here | 18:48 |
| harha | Stskeeps: What exactly they should look for in their source tree (for those drivers) ? | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | harha: look at the WSEGLs | 18:49 |
| Stskeeps | just like i had a wayland one | 18:49 |
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| arc_mat | mdfe_: question: what is that, and is it fatal? [ 2.855163] <30>systemd-stdout-syslog-bridge[1247]: Failed to accept new connection: Function not implemented | 18:51 |
| harha | ok | 18:51 |
| mdfe_ | arc_mat: mom | 18:51 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: next question: why is tath | 18:53 |
| mdfe_ | For all how like to take also a look: http://pastebin.com/Vb6KABHn | 18:53 |
| harha | Stskeeps: speaking about your wayland exercise, was/is that driver for omap3 only ? | 18:54 |
| Stskeeps | harha: could work for omap4 probably, but i haven't looked closely | 18:54 |
| Stskeeps | arc_mat: kernel version? | 18:54 |
| mdfe_ | 2.6.35.7 | 18:54 |
| mdfe_ | I think | 18:54 |
| Stskeeps | mdfe_: might need accept4 wired up | 18:54 |
| harha | stskeeps: But that stuff is not enough for xwindows anyway ? | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | harha: not enough for a full x11 correc | 18:55 |
| Stskeeps | t | 18:55 |
| anYc | Stskeeps: thx | 18:55 |
| harha | Stskeeps; Ok, Thank you ;) | 18:55 |
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| mdfe_ | arc_mat: hm, are you pointing to newer log? | 18:57 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: no, that should be also in the log I sent you | 18:57 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: but it's indeed newer | 18:57 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: let me share, just a second | 18:57 |
| harha | join #nemomobile | 18:57 |
| harha | ops | 18:58 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: sent | 18:59 |
| mdfe_ | Stskeeps: Sorry I do not understand what you mean with 'accept4 wired up' | 18:59 |
| arc_mat | maybe we need to backport support for the accept4 syscall ... | 18:59 |
| mdfe_ | arc_mat: uh, sounds like work | 19:00 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 19:01 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: but accept4 is pretty standard, what do you mean by "wired up"? | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | arc_mat: it wasn't wired up on ARM until .37 or something | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | sec | 19:01 |
| mdfe_ | http://pastebin.com/GwfkgxNS | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | arc_mat: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=wire-up-sys_accept4-on-ARM.patch&package=kernel-adaptation-n950&project=CE%3AAdaptation%3AN950-N9&srcmd5=3f06d1c73c7a80a98e9bd274f8abc690 | 19:02 |
| Stskeeps | our kernel headers are on .37 i think | 19:02 |
| vgrade | also needs CONFIG_ options for systemd | 19:03 |
| araujo | Stskeeps, you guys are removing meegotouch for Mer ? | 19:03 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: that looks pretty easy, can you integrate that patch? | 19:03 |
| mdfe_ | agreed | 19:03 |
| mdfe_ | I will try | 19:03 |
| vgrade | ah no sorry, just systemd patches from the N950 kernel adaptation | 19:04 |
| vgrade | and this patch https://build.pub.meego.com/package/view_file?file=cgroupfs-create-sys-fs-cgroup-to-mount-cgroupfs-on.patch&package=kernel-adaptation-n950&project=CE%3AAdaptation%3AN950-N9&srcmd5=3f06d1c73c7a80a98e9bd274f8abc690 | 19:05 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: maybe we should open a downstream on gitorious, for the archos gpl kernel, so that we have a repo for mer related patches? | 19:05 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: or wherever it's convenient | 19:05 |
| mdfe_ | arc_mat: sounds good | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | araujo: mer doesn't see libmeegotouch, that's a nemo thing :) | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | araujo: mer doesn't contain libmeegotouch, just qt+qt mobility+qt webkit | 19:06 |
| araujo | Stskeeps, aah right, nemo :P | 19:06 |
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| arc_mat | mdfe_: looks like you can take more stuff from the n950 adaptation, they use the same wifi chip | 19:08 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: wl1271 | 19:08 |
| mdfe_ | arc_mat: ouch the wire-up-sys_accept4-on-ARM.patch does not apply :( | 19:09 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: I see... I'll fix it and send you a patch rebased on our kernel | 19:09 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, I thought the accept4 stuff only provided a performance improvement | 19:10 |
| mdfe_ | arc_mat: awesome :) | 19:10 |
| * araujo surfs around the whole load of OBS repos | 19:11 | |
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| arc_mat | mdfe_: hmm, syscall number collision. 365 on our kernel is NR_recvmsg | 19:11 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: when you build the image, are the syscall numbers taken from the actual kernel source? Or is there a separate kernel header package? | 19:12 |
| mdfe_ | arc_mat: wl1271-module-alias.patch also do not apply | 19:12 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: yes, just leave the wl1271 stuff aside for the moment, let's concentrate on getting the system up first | 19:12 |
| mdfe_ | arc_mat: sorry I have to check | 19:12 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: ^^^ | 19:13 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: forget it. there is no collision | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | arc_mat: userland is built against kernel-headers package | 19:13 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: all good | 19:13 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: i've seen wayland break | 19:13 |
| mdfe_ | :) | 19:14 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: it's all good, NR_accept4 is syscall 365, recvmsg is 366 | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:14 |
| vgrade | Stskeeps, ok | 19:14 |
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| Stskeeps | crevetor: cool picture :) | 19:16 |
| vgrade | hp pad? | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 19:17 |
| vgrade | link | 19:17 |
| Stskeeps | http://twitter.com/crevetor | 19:17 |
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| Stskeeps | smoku: did you see the hardfp iMX drivers btw? | 19:21 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: patch sent | 19:23 |
| mdfe_ | arc_mat: sorry I have to get the bus now, greate thanks and cya | 19:23 |
| arc_mat | mdfe_: ok, let's continue another time | 19:23 |
| arc_mat | ryl | 19:23 |
| mdfe_ | arc_mat: I will take care on this tomorrow morning | 19:23 |
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| * Stskeeps boots a kvm with qtwebkit | 19:24 | |
| smoku | Stskeeps: nope. there were rumors, but I didn't see a live specimen yet | 19:25 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: spotted it at http://wiki.meego.com/index.php?title=In-vehicle&curid=1373&diff=49206&oldid=49201 | 19:26 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: yes, adding accept4 fixed the systemd, however there's already the next failure, which is about systemd-readahead-collect | 19:28 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: systemd[1]: Unit systemd-readahead-collect.service entered failed state. | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 19:29 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: systemd-readahead-collect[1039]: Failed to create fanotify object: Function not implemented | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | see vgrade's list of things you ought to have in kernel config | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | vgrade: ? | 19:29 |
| arc_mat | vgrade: pretty please ;) | 19:29 |
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| crevetor | arc_mat: fanotify isn't mandatory | 19:32 |
| crevetor | arc_mat: what kernel are you using ? | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | seems to be in .36 | 19:32 |
| arc_mat | crevetor: 2.6.35.7 | 19:33 |
| crevetor | You're probably going to have problems with logind then, you'll need this : http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=fbc92a3455577ab17615cbcb91826399061bd789 | 19:33 |
| crevetor | Which requires this : http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=96fd7ce58ffb5c7bf376796b5525ba3ea1c9d69f | 19:34 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: very good find. THANKS :D | 19:37 |
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| Stskeeps | smoku: no idea about licensing | 19:37 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: I guess it's safe to assume the same as softfp ones | 19:38 |
| arc_mat | crevetor: argh. do they have nothing else to do than moving stuff around? | 19:38 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: any idea what is needed to hook up the backlight controls? I'm still booting into emergency mode, but should I not see at least a banner on the display? | 19:39 |
| Stskeeps | arc_mat: add a systemd service that echo'es the right spot? and no, we don't really typically have a splash | 19:40 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: :) | 19:40 |
| Stskeeps | we are fairly serious when we say it's just a core ;) | 19:40 |
| arc_mat | Stskeeps: ok, I'll let mdfe_ handle the system fiddling. I'm just the kernel guy | 19:40 |
| smoku | Stskeeps: what about that pretty Mer animation? :> | 19:44 |
| Stskeeps | smoku: hehe, some day ;) | 19:45 |
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| crevetor | arc_mat: what hardware are you working on ? | 19:52 |
| arc_mat | crevetor: Archos A80S | 19:52 |
| crevetor | cool | 19:52 |
| crevetor | it's out ? | 19:54 |
| arc_mat | sure | 19:54 |
| arc_mat | wft, tmpfs acls? someone is sure paranoid | 19:54 |
| crevetor | systemd loves brand new kernel options | 19:55 |
| dm8tbr | arc_mat: is the SDE out too? | 19:56 |
| arc_mat | dm8tbr: now, what am I working on right now? | 19:56 |
| arc_mat | dm8tbr: so, nope, not yet ;) | 19:56 |
| dm8tbr | arc_mat: ah, so it _is_ going to be plasma/mer, cool beans :) | 19:56 |
| smoku | no more Angstrom? yay! :D | 20:00 |
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| arc_mat | meh :( systemd[1]: Failed to open /dev/autofs: No such file or directory | 20:12 |
| arc_mat | systemd[1]: Job emergency.target/start failed with result 'dependency'. | 20:12 |
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| Stskeeps | http://wiki.meego.com/User:Vgrade#MeeGo_Kernel_Options | 20:12 |
| Stskeeps | doing good progress though | 20:12 |
| arc_mat | not an exhaustive list, though | 20:13 |
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| arc_mat | okay, lads 'n lassies, read you later | 20:14 |
| vgrade | arc_mat, sorry commuting, I think Stskeeps linked the options anyway, | 20:19 |
| arc_mat | vgrade: no worries, I think i'm almost there. just a couple more hours | 20:20 |
| vgrade | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd#What_kernel_options_do_I_need_to_enable_in_my_kernel_in_case_I_do_not_use_the_official_Arch_kernel.3F | 20:21 |
| vgrade | I think FANOTIFY is recommended for readahead. Also CONFIG_AUTOFS4_FS | 20:22 |
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| Sage_ | hmmp... it seems that pandaboard and n950 have the same bt, wifi and fm chips. | 20:27 |
| Stskeeps | nice | 20:27 |
| Sage_ | wl127x | 20:27 |
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| Ans5i | vgrade: paranoid_andriod? :) | 20:28 |
| Sage_ | so I'm thinking more about ti-common adaptation section :) | 20:28 |
| Sage_ | harha: evening | 20:28 |
| vgrade | Ans5i, yes , wasted a long time on that one. it stops non root processes from using the network stack | 20:28 |
| Sage_ | I'm guessing that as we have distribution rights for n950 firmware already nothing prevents us using those with pandaboard as well, right? | 20:29 |
| Ans5i | vgrade: yeah, just wondered the _andriod | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | Sage_: well, read the licenses, but i don't recall an issue offhand | 20:29 |
| Sage_ | hmmp.. the firmware version in ubuntu is a lot newer though. | 20:30 |
| Sage_ | Stskeeps: maybe we should check if we need to sync n950 firmwares anyway btw. | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 20:30 |
| Sage_ | anyway time for investigation tomorrow. Also the pvr driver seems to have some performance issues. got only ~14fps with meegotouchhome and compositor | 20:32 |
| Stskeeps | that doesn't sound right | 20:32 |
| Sage_ | but compositor run fine as well as the gles sample app you gave the url | 20:32 |
| Stskeeps | perhaps TFP isn't working correctly | 20:33 |
| Stskeeps | grab egl-utils from mesa and run eglinf | 20:33 |
| Stskeeps | o | 20:33 |
| Sage_ | will do tomorrow. Left panda at workdesk tomorrow :P | 20:33 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 20:33 |
| Sage_ | today* | 20:33 |
| Sage_ | Managed to figure out the reason for my NAS failure. One disk broke down and NAS went nuts. :/ | 20:34 |
| Stskeeps | ah, that's not really how a NAS is supposed to react :P | 20:34 |
| Sage_ | yes, don't know yet what is wrong, but will investigate more some other day. Still have my old NAS working. | 20:35 |
| Sage_ | Was able to read the data from working drive fine with ubuntu so that is a relief for future. Data not totally lost if device breaks :) | 20:36 |
| Sage_ | http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?contentId=29993&navigationId=12762&templateId=6123 | 20:38 |
| Sage_ | ^ same chip as in N950 for BT, WiFi and FM? | 20:39 |
| Sage_ | and N9 | 20:39 |
| Sage_ | hard to find proper references mainly our packages found with google :) | 20:40 |
| Stskeeps | they're related at least | 20:40 |
| Stskeeps | ok, time for sleep, am exhausted | 20:40 |
| Stskeeps | see you tomorrow | 20:42 |
| Sage_ | cya, good night | 20:42 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: found a kind of fix for remote repos | 20:44 |
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| Sage_ | eh, might be hard to get a replacement for my HDD now :/ | 20:54 |
| dm8tbr | Sage_: yes, that should be the chip, or it's wilink7, hard to be really sure | 20:54 |
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| schmittlauch | does anyone here know if the plasma-active adption is working nice on n900? | 21:00 |
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| schmittlauch | or is it too slow/buggy? | 21:01 |
| Velmont | schmittlauch: Someone put a youtube video up. Looked a bit laggy. | 21:02 |
| schmittlauch | ok.. thx | 21:04 |
| schmittlauch | like the meego CE | 21:04 |
| schmittlauch | n900 is such old, but there's no alternative to it (if you're not one of the lucky guys who got a n950) :( | 21:05 |
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| kyb3R | or if community in your area has not set up Local Device Program | 21:29 |
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| DocScrutinizer | meh, I'd give away my N950 for half a dozen new N900 | 22:14 |
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| norayr | I need hardware keyboard a lot. I think even if I have n9 I'll use my n900 more. | 22:44 |
| norayr | That's why I indeed need an n950. | 22:44 |
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