| *** Sail0r_ is now known as Sail0r | 11:00 | |
| chopix | hello! | 17:26 |
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| ender| | grr, my xperia 10 order was cancelled, and the store refunded my money - when i asked them why it was cancelled, they answered that the order was lost in transit… | 18:00 |
| chopix | i just got my xperia 10 | 18:00 |
| chopix | mixed bag feelings | 18:00 |
| ender| | i'd prefer an XA2, but those don't seem to be available anywhere | 18:01 |
| chopix | they are still sold | 18:04 |
| chopix | on my local amazon | 18:04 |
| chopix | crazy expensive though | 18:04 |
| ender| | 221€ with postage from amazon, but i'd have to see if they can do a business invoice | 18:05 |
| chopix | XA2 or X10? | 18:06 |
| ender| | https://www.amazon.de/dp/B078KHZ5HG?linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&smid=A3VH5XG1HQLW51&creativeASIN=B078KHZ5HG&tag=geizhals10-21&ascsubtag=b2tMMKrKT1qKNuzAoZkm9g&th=1 | 18:06 |
| chopix | paid 195 for my Xperia10 | 18:07 |
| chopix | € | 18:07 |
| chopix | I really wanted the plus but its so damn big | 18:08 |
| ender| | where? | 18:08 |
| ender| | the cheapest 10 i can find is 229€ (without postage) | 18:08 |
| chopix | https://www.amazon.it/gp/offer-listing/B07NDSJLSP/ref=olp_f_usedLikeNew?keywords=xperia+10&__mk_it_IT=%C3%85M%C3%85%C5%BD%C3%95%C3%91&qid=1578852502&sr=8-1&f_usedLikeNew=true | 18:08 |
| chopix | its used, "as new" | 18:09 |
| chopix | its pristine | 18:09 |
| chopix | "come nuovo" = "as new" | 18:09 |
| chopix | do not know how much is the postage to .de | 18:09 |
| ender| | i'm in Slovenia, .de just usually has the lowest prices | 18:10 |
| chopix | well | 18:12 |
| chopix | no idea about that | 18:12 |
| chopix | germany surely has a lower sales tax than italy so | 18:12 |
| ender| | that's the other thing - i'm buying through my work, so they have to invoice without VAT | 18:13 |
| attah | Surely the ship to Italy from .de? | 18:13 |
| chopix | yeah they ship to italy from .de and the other way round | 18:14 |
| chopix | at least amazon shops do that | 18:14 |
| chopix | they charge postage though | 18:14 |
| chopix | but its not crazy expensive | 18:14 |
| attah | sure, usually like €10-15 | 18:14 |
| chopix | if you buy from amazon though, not from a seller | 18:15 |
| attah | usually pretty similar prices, unless they are really bad | 18:16 |
| attah | €12 for this one to .se apparently | 18:16 |
| chopix | which one? | 18:17 |
| attah | that very XA2 on amazon.de | 18:17 |
| chopix | you guys are making me regret getting the xperia 10 :\ | 18:17 |
| attah | i have both, not sure which one i prefer | 18:18 |
| attah | but the screen on the XA2 seems almost square when i use it nowadays | 18:18 |
| attah | which is nice | 18:18 |
| chopix | sometimes the fingerprint binary blob goes 100% cpu | 18:18 |
| attah | on the 10? | 18:19 |
| chopix | yep | 18:19 |
| attah | yeah, it's not 100% | 18:19 |
| chopix | and theres issues with the keyboard and android apps like whatsapp | 18:19 |
| attah | haven't tried | 18:19 |
| chopix | its more like 40%-50% and only way is to reboot or it kills the battery | 18:19 |
| attah | i'd have thought one could just restart the service | 18:20 |
| chopix | which service? | 18:20 |
| chopix | because killing it and making it respawn doesnt seem to solve | 18:20 |
| attah | whatever systemd service runs fingerprint program | 18:20 |
| attah | okay | 18:21 |
| attah | but it always happens when i'm out and about, and not that often, so i haven't tried yet | 18:21 |
| chopix | theres a used XA2 "as new" on amazon.it for 170 euros | 18:22 |
| chopix | but its gold lol | 18:23 |
| chopix | does it happen on the XA2 as well? the fingerprint cpu issue? | 18:24 |
| chopix | I found a 107 euro blue XA2 | 18:27 |
| attah | Never had XA2 fingerprint issues... but modem issues :( | 18:38 |
| attah | i'll take the former over the latter | 18:38 |
| chopix | btw I come from and aquafish | 18:52 |
| chopix | so | 18:52 |
| chopix | everything is better on the X10 cant really complain | 18:52 |
| chopix | only thing is I wish they will support the compass | 18:52 |
| attah | Yeah, that generation wasn't pretty | 18:53 |
| chopix | horrible phone | 18:53 |
| chopix | lol | 18:53 |
| attah | Counting OS still makes it better than most Androids of that era | 18:54 |
| chopix | in the same price range maybe | 18:55 |
| chopix | which was 60-70 Euro for the aquafish | 18:56 |
| attah | Sure, in India... but how much was the C? | 18:57 |
| attah | ...or an AF on eBay? | 18:57 |
| attah | 200? | 18:57 |
| chopix | idk | 18:57 |
| chopix | surely the phone wasnt worth more than 70 euro | 18:57 |
| attah | 170 shipped apparently | 18:58 |
| tiwake | the aquafish I got, the screen crapped out | 19:00 |
| attah | I feel quite wasteful in that all my SFOS devices are still in good condition | 19:01 |
| attah | Not counting batteries | 19:02 |
| chopix | aquafish batteries were impossible to get too | 19:02 |
| mal | attah: what modem issues do you have on xa2? | 19:10 |
| attah | "sim removed", supposedly due to phone resetting it | 19:10 |
| attah | even for some few weeks after the supposed improvement/fix | 19:11 |
| mal | hmm | 19:11 |
| attah | then i switched to a 10 | 19:11 |
| attah | Seems i was a good user and posted logs in a comment to this answer https://together.jolla.com/question/182073/sim-card-removed-issue-with-sailfishx/?answer=217262#post-id-217262 | 19:18 |
| mal | that is quite minimal logs, probably android side logs would be needed for debugging | 19:24 |
| mal | how often did that happen? | 19:24 |
| attah | I assume hat was all that seemed even remotely relevant | 19:24 |
| attah | oh, Android gets to play with sim cards? | 19:25 |
| attah | varied, few times a month to few times a week | 19:25 |
| mal | well telephony stuff goes through android RIL | 19:25 |
| mal | usually it's something in either modem firmware, ril or ofono ril handling that is causing things | 19:26 |
| mal | there is the ofono logger app which gets the logs | 19:26 |
| mal | or checking manually using "/usr/libexec/droid-hybris/system/bin/logcat -b radio" | 19:27 |
| attah | hmm, that would be great if that could make it into that question so others, still on XA2 can take better logs | 19:28 |
| attah | i'm a bit hesitant to go back | 19:29 |
| *** X704 is now known as tiwake | 23:32 | |
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