#jollamobile log for Friday, 2019-07-26

JulianFHello, all. If I buy a second-hand 3-month-old XA2 phone, could I get the seller's "Sailfish X Beta license" transferred to my name? Let's assume the seller will be helpful. I don't know how Sailfish licensing works; does the "beta" licence become a full licence now that the OS is out of beta, or was that some kind of temporary licence that would have expired?10:03
henkhey, my jolla1 says there is an update available to 3.1.0.11. how do I find the release notes for that version on my desktop? I don’t like reading on my mobile phone too much. they don’t seem to be prominently linked on jolla.com or the sailfish website, are they?11:00
Coolgeekon TJC, there is the changelog11:01
Coolgeekhttps://together.jolla.com/question/208530/release-notes-310-seitseminen/11:02
henkCoolgeek: yeah, but where to find the link to that?11:10
Coolgeekhttps://together.jolla.com/ there. it's the forum11:12
CoolgeekI didn't search anywhere else11:12
henkhm, so I understand it correctly that there is no "releases" page anywhere like most other software products have? one has to actually know to go to together.jolla.com (as opposed to jolla.com or sailfishos.org) and then search/filter there to find info about releases?11:19
Coolgeekhttps://blog.jolla.com/ here you will find the latest news I think11:21
Coolgeekin the blog post for this update, it seems the writer forget to ling to the post in TJC11:21
Coolgeekthe link is there in previous blog post11:21
Coolgeekhttps://jolla.com/ at the bottom, you will find a link to blog.jolla.com11:22
henkCoolgeek: thank you11:24
JulianFHello, all. New to Jolla/Sailfish, coming from Android, looking for more Openness in my communication and data. Have read plenty about it; sounds like the right direction for me; still some questions before I buy. Hope someone may enlighten me.11:31
JulianFLooks like photos can be copied to online albums in available "social network" connectors; but only FB and Twitter are mentioned in the manual. What support is there for photos gallery or backup/online access on Open systems -- Nextcloud, Piwigo, plain-old-file-server (SMB/FTP), etc.?11:31
JulianFAlternatively, how good is support for switching to Android camera and gallery apps (e.g. OpenCamera and A-Photo-Manager)?11:32
Coolgeekmaybe you will need to ask in #sailfishos, as it seems to be OS realtive questions11:32
JulianF(Not that they do a good job of supporting Open online storage either; just asking anyway.)11:32
henk'grml' I just switched on wifi while the update is downloading and now it seems to be stuck. closing the app doesn’t seem to stop the download so I could restart it afterwards. do I really need to reboot now or is there another way?11:36
JulianFDoes Jolla provide any of its own online services, like backup of phone config and data, or files storage, or online email/calendar/contacts service, like the way /e/ (eelo) provides hosted Nextcloud for those sorts of things?11:36
JulianFCoolgeek: ok, thanks, I can try there for the social network connectors Q.11:37
henknvm, i’ll just reboot …11:39
CoolgeekI don't think jolla provide some ckloud storage or backup11:39
Coolgeekbackup are done on the SDcard11:39
Coolgeekunless you already have an online cloud service11:39
henkhm, the progress indicator for the download in the gui seems stuck. according to the logs (journalctl) there is still progress …11:54
tiwakeI should update my XA211:57
tiwakedid the web browser get any updates?11:58
tiwakebecause the tooter app (for mastodon) does not work because it uses web browser bindings... and the web stuff is broken11:59
henkis the jolla infrastructure overloaded? the update has been downloading for almost an hour now /-:12:32
henkand the graphical indicator is stuck …12:33
CoolgeekI had some trouble to access TJC... maybe it is related ?12:34
henkyeah, that was slow for me as well. I was thinking it might be related, that’s why I ask …12:35
JulianFYeah, TJC has been so ... so ... slow, sometimes timing out, for at least a few hours.12:35
Coolgeekdunno is there is some sailor here that can answer ?12:35
henkthis is a bit frustrating ):12:35
henkhuh, after rebooting the update is ready for installation o_O12:39
JulianFCoolgeek: thanks, re. cloud services.12:54
Coolgeek:)12:57
henknow the installation’s progress bar is full since several minutes and it just sits there … what do I do? shut it down or wait a few hours? ):12:59
henkany way to debug it in this state?13:07
henkhuh, i pressed (not held) power button once and for half a second a message flashed saying something like "could not be updated, please try again later" o_O13:14
henkok, back to downloading …13:18
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henkok, everything fine now …14:07
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