| Helle | hey, uuuuuh, my Jolla C seems to be hanging on it's update ? | 11:13 |
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| Helle | as in the progress bar has illuminated like 2 pixels, but is stuck on that for 20 minutes now | 11:13 |
| h4PPYC4T | Helle: so what was the outcome? did it continue eventually? | 12:39 |
| Helle | h4PPYC4T: nope, ended up doing a factory reset.... | 12:41 |
| h4PPYC4T | oh - too bad. there might have been a way around that. | 12:43 |
| h4PPYC4T | did the device rebooted normally after you forced quit the update by removing the battery? | 12:44 |
| Helle | nope | 12:44 |
| Helle | that is why I ended up going the factory reset route | 12:45 |
| h4PPYC4T | i see. ;) | 12:45 |
| h4PPYC4T | sounds like a last resort then. | 12:45 |
| Helle | yeah, thankfully I could run a backup and honestly not too much special stuff on my phone | 12:46 |
| Helle | yep and now that same update is installing fine | 12:47 |
| Helle | *sigh* | 12:47 |
| h4PPYC4T | at least something. :) | 12:48 |
| h4PPYC4T | were you using any third party repos or patches? | 12:49 |
| h4PPYC4T | i mean, before... | 12:49 |
| Helle | uuuuh, yeah, various things honestly though don't think I had any patches, but with how I'd been using it I had expected it to break at some point | 12:50 |
| h4PPYC4T | that's the downside of freedom...;) | 12:57 |
| Helle | Yep, but at least recovery doesn't involve downloading dodgy images from weird websites | 12:58 |
| h4PPYC4T | IF the recovery mode does the job. factory image files are not public afaik... | 13:04 |
| Helle | true, I mean the N900 had officially supplied recovery images and tools | 13:05 |
| h4PPYC4T | Helle: yep. i guess the problem is/was that qualcomm is a bit overprotective about their IP. | 13:25 |
| h4PPYC4T | at least more than Texas instruments. | 13:26 |
| Helle | Seem to recall TI only had issues with the DSPs and that was due to third party licensing (and why they where never fully supported on the N900) | 13:28 |
| h4PPYC4T | i wish there would be more open hardware available - i mean open source os are nice, but if the drivers/modules for the hardware are closed/binary blobs, then it cripples the freedom a lot. | 13:34 |
| Helle | mhm | 13:36 |
| Helle | well, I mean I just want to be able to run mainstream kernels | 13:36 |
| Helle | also I want full baseband access, but the FCC's long claws are in part preventing that, even if you are in Europe | 13:37 |
| mornfall | Helle: try purism | 13:37 |
| Helle | mornfall: I know, but I also actually use my phones and tablets :P | 13:38 |
| mornfall | Helle: don't get too greedy | 13:38 |
| mornfall | it's the only device with a remote chance of being viable and running a mainline kernel | 13:38 |
| mornfall | says here shipping starts in April | 13:40 |
| mornfall | Helle: it possibly wouldn't be too hard to port SFOS on it, though i don't think jolla is interested | 13:42 |
| Helle | mornfall: probably, I may be tempted | 13:43 |
| Helle | SFOS for me feels like a reasonable point though honestly, for all it's clunkiness there was a lot to say for the UI of Meego (it was less phone-like, which to me was an upside) | 13:43 |
| Helle | I go crazy when I try to use a phone with Android (it's okay on tablets) | 13:44 |
| h4PPYC4T | android with google-services is pretty creepy, imho. | 13:51 |
| Helle | h4PPYC4T: oh, yeah, mine are always cleared of that.... | 13:52 |
| Helle | but I have tablets that do run Android (for lack of any other option really) | 13:52 |
| Helle | cleaned android, but Google Play Services is used by so many apps, or more accurately, so many claim they need it, but run fine without it (except push notifications) | 13:56 |
| h4PPYC4T | yep. and there's microG - not sure how good it is tho', never tried, because i don't any android devices atm. | 13:58 |
| h4PPYC4T | +own | 14:00 |
| h4PPYC4T | there are a very few propritary android apps on my jolla phone nevertheless. spotify and netflix for example. | 14:02 |
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