| caitlin | eep, i bought my xa2... cmoooon jolla | 17:39 |
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| * FaerieFly also placed an order on an XA2 recently | 18:39 | |
| FaerieFly | should arrive sometime next week | 18:39 |
| FaerieFly | caitlin: out of curiosity, which model did you go for? | 18:40 |
| * FaerieFly is hoping going for a H4113 (i.e. dual-sim) wasn't a bad idea | 18:40 | |
| mal | both h3113 (single-sim) and h4113 (dual-sim) will be supported | 18:42 |
| FaerieFly | good, good | 18:44 |
| FaerieFly | What about the "Ultra" variants? (H3213, H4213) | 18:45 |
| FaerieFly | (asking more for curiosity than anything else, since I'd go for the Hx113 either way) | 18:45 |
| mal | there is unofficial support for those already, we'll see if those will be added to officially supported devices, jolla mentioned in the comment section of https://blog.jolla.com/sailfish-3-update-post/ that ae considering adding new devices | 18:48 |
| entil | I find the sailfish x vs sailfish 3 thing confusing :/ is there more to it than marketing? | 18:50 |
| mal | the unofficial support for those is in the same adaptation repos as the official devices so it would be reasonably simple to support those, of course plenty of testing would be required and so on | 18:50 |
| mal | entil: sailfish x is the name of image selling program, sailfish 3 is the sailfish version numbering | 18:51 |
| FaerieFly | mal: ah cool | 18:51 |
| mal | as an example https://github.com/mer-hybris/droid-config-sony-nile/tree/master/rpm | 18:51 |
| entil | mal: ok... thanks for clearing it up :) but why not just call it sailfish images and be like "we'll start to offer sailfish 3 through sailfish images for the sony xyz phones" ;P | 18:52 |
| mal | entil: no idea why they chose to name it like that | 18:52 |
| FaerieFly | I guess the X is for Xperia or something, so it makes some sense to call the "Getting Sailfish running on Xperia phones" "Sailfish X" | 18:53 |
| * FaerieFly shrugs | 18:53 | |
| entil | FaerieFly: it kinda doesn't, though, because then it sounds like it could be a vastly different version or fork, which isn't obvious if it's actually the name of the program | 18:53 |
| FaerieFly | yeah, that's true | 18:53 |
| FaerieFly | (it did confuse me a bit too, so the clarification is useful ) | 18:54 |
| mal | FaerieFly: well there is plan to also provide images to gemini pda through the same program so the name is indeed a bit confusing | 18:54 |
| FaerieFly | Hmm yeah | 18:54 |
| entil | even more so if the main business strategy will be selling these images... | 18:55 |
| mal | entil: FaerieFly the official site says "Sailfish X is Jolla’s officially supported downloadable version of Sailfish OS for selected devices" https://jolla.com/sailfishx/ | 18:55 |
| mal | and in the faq section of that page it says "Why is it called Sailfish X? The ‘X’ refers to the different devices that Sailfish OS can be downloaded to. Please note that this is a marketing name, the software is still called Sailfish OS." | 18:57 |
| tiwake | I bought a sailfishX license for my sony XperiaX, but it turns out the bootloader was not unlockable, so I've been sitting on it... will I have to spend the money again for a new license when I get an XA2? | 18:59 |
| r0kk3rz | tiwake: you should open a support ticket about that | 18:59 |
| mal | can't remember what things are asked during purchase process, did it ask for imei or something? | 19:01 |
| tiwake | no | 19:02 |
| mal | so maybe the license is then not yet tied to any device? and it might be possible use it on xa2 directly, if not then probably a support ticker is a good idea | 19:03 |
| mal | r0kk3rz: does that sound logical to you? | 19:03 |
| r0kk3rz | it gets tied to a specific device once you log into it | 19:04 |
| r0kk3rz | definitely raise a ticket though | 19:04 |
| mal | r0kk3rz: yep, so if he was not able to flash it in the first place so it's probably not tied to a device | 19:05 |
| mal | tiwake: you didn't sell the phone? | 19:06 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah, i dont know if xperia x and xa2 licences are going to be from the same pool though | 19:06 |
| tiwake | mal: not yet... was thinking about it | 19:06 |
| r0kk3rz | they recently decided not to transfer licences between accounts though i think | 19:06 |
| mal | tiwake: the website did say to unlock first, then buy the license, just to be sure it will work | 19:08 |
| tiwake | sure, and I bought an "unlocked phone" | 19:08 |
| tiwake | its not as unlocked as mentioned | 19:08 |
| mal | where did you buy it? | 19:09 |
| tiwake | it was used, from someplace online on amazon | 19:09 |
| mal | ok | 19:09 |
| tiwake | since nobody is selling it used, there is no way to insure that the bootloader will be unlocked either | 19:09 |
| tiwake | erm, nobody is selling it new | 19:10 |
| mal | tiwake: so the website said it's unlockable when you tried to get the code? | 19:11 |
| mal | sony website that is | 19:12 |
| tiwake | correct | 19:12 |
| mal | ok | 19:12 |
| mal | quite annoying, hopefully you'll manage to sell it | 19:12 |
| tiwake | I went to the store and looked at the proper unlocking sequence for the XA2... which was no problem | 19:12 |
| tiwake | and no I won't be making sure the microphone and cellphone radio and stuff works before installing sailfishOS either | 19:13 |
| tiwake | because I really don't want google anything | 19:14 |
| tiwake | not going to insert a simcard till its not google :P | 19:14 |
| mal | afaik it's not necessary to login to google services on the device | 19:14 |
| tiwake | sure, well, maybe other than to update it for the install process... just saying the install process says to use the phone first to make sure everything is working | 19:15 |
| tiwake | when I'm not going to because screw google | 19:15 |
| r0kk3rz | thats just jolla covering themselves | 19:16 |
| mal | yes, that's a good way to rule out hardware issues | 19:19 |
| tiwake | what I could not find is how to move stuff from jolla phone to jolla phone | 19:19 |
| tiwake | namely contacts, but SMS messages would be nice too | 19:20 |
| r0kk3rz | scp to the rescue! | 19:20 |
| mal | tiwake: if you make a backup the contacts are stored as a file that can be copied and imported on the other device | 19:21 |
| mal | but scp might work also | 19:21 |
| r0kk3rz | there isnt really a nice way to do it | 19:22 |
| mal | I don't store sms messages so only relevant thing for me is contact list | 19:23 |
| entil | I had a scare with sailfish x; I recorded some videos and there was no sound, and I figured it must have used the bt headset for input, but fortunately it used it only for output | 19:35 |
| entil | btw where on tjc can I change my password? | 19:40 |
| mal | entil: account.jolla.com | 19:43 |
| entil | mal: lolz, thanks, but I just found it through the phone | 19:44 |
| entil | I was young and stupid once, reused some passwords, and now I've been seeing two separate passwords in spam... | 19:45 |
| entil | the first I have no idea where I'd have had it for years, but I just realized I'd forgotten to change my jolla.com password | 19:46 |
| mal | I think I should also change some passwords | 19:48 |
| entil | qmlpass is really cool | 19:48 |
| entil | a bit of a hassle to set up because you need to bootstrap it externally, but it works wonders | 19:49 |
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