| *** sledges_ is now known as sledges | 06:56 | |
| sledges | PSA: Sailfish OS community collab #mer-meeting in just under an hour | 07:03 |
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| * XenoPL wonders if anybody ever considered replacing, connman with NetworkManager. Yeah, lots of work would have to be done, but nm is closer to most of the distros upstream, is feture-rich and mature. | 12:38 | |
| coderus | Why nm? Replace with systemd-networkd then | 12:51 |
| XenoPL | isn't it lower part of the stack? AFAIK systemd-networkd is a service to bring up network devices, NM is for users to configure and manage networks | 12:57 |
| r0kk3rz | XenoPL: you're welcome to try | 12:58 |
| r0kk3rz | im sure connman was chosen for hysterical reasons with meego | 12:58 |
| XenoPL | historical/political (connman was intel thing) | 12:59 |
| r0kk3rz | indeed | 12:59 |
| tbr | yes it was one of those NIH things | 12:59 |
| XenoPL | I guess packaging and taping it to sailfish systemd wouldnt't be that hard, but it'd require rewriting all the network related parts of settings app | 13:01 |
| XenoPL | I was just wondering if it wouldn't make handling advanced netwroking scenarios (vpns, ap roaming connection type roaming) easier | 13:02 |
| XenoPL | NM seems to be working well for most of the desktop distros | 13:03 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah there might be some dbus api issues with things | 13:04 |
| r0kk3rz | not sure how comman specific any integration bits are between usb-moded, bluez, lipstick .etc | 13:05 |
| XenoPL | yeah, some changes would be needed there as well, but maybe some of the magic glue thah holds sailfish network stack together would became redundant and obsolete | 13:11 |
| XenoPL | Maybe a thing for a SF 4.0 :) | 13:17 |
| r0kk3rz | im not sure i could see jolla ever doing it | 13:27 |
| r0kk3rz | unless connman as an upstream was totally abandoned | 13:32 |
| r0kk3rz | but i wonder if you'd also want ModemManager as well instead of ofono... | 13:33 |
| XenoPL | well NM can use ofono as modemmanager replacement, if there's no real advantage on over another I wouldn't change that. Unless Modem Manager does something much better | 13:39 |
| r0kk3rz | is that a common configuration though? | 13:40 |
| XenoPL | not really, but 'm not sure how modem manager handles telephony side of the communication | 13:41 |
| attah | To XA2, or not to XA2, that is the question... | 19:57 |
| attah | Screw it... i have just about every other device... can't break the streak now | 20:03 |
| FireFly | haha | 20:08 |
| attah | N9 in both black and cyan, J1, JC, AF(new in pieces), Tablet(!) Xperia X | 20:09 |
| attah | Never had an android device for personal use | 20:10 |
| r0kk3rz | gemini pda? | 20:11 |
| attah | oh, snap :P | 20:11 |
| attah | is that official-official? | 20:11 |
| r0kk3rz | ...official-ish | 20:11 |
| FireFly | I'm actually looking for a new phone currently... | 20:11 |
| FireFly | I'm pondering just going for android >.> | 20:11 |
| attah | boooo! :P | 20:12 |
| FireFly | but even that is proving problematic... why are phones so darn huge these days | 20:12 |
| attah | I have large hands.. so i don't mind that much | 20:12 |
| r0kk3rz | for fat handed twats | 20:12 |
| FireFly | the jolla1 is slightly on the big end for me | 20:12 |
| FireFly | ... | 20:12 |
| FireFly | and I'm definitely looking at an increase in size if I buy a new phone, I feel >.< | 20:13 |
| * attah takes J1 from shelf | 20:13 | |
| r0kk3rz | just start using two hands like everyone else | 20:13 |
| FireFly | z.z | 20:13 |
| FireFly | but yeah, I think it's about time to upgrade from my J1 | 20:13 |
| FireFly | J1-with-tohkbd; its size is always a conversation starter :p | 20:14 |
| r0kk3rz | conversation starters are good! | 20:14 |
| attah | Xperia X compact is *just* smaller than J1 | 20:15 |
| FireFly | Hmm | 20:15 |
| mal | fairphone also raises questions sometimes, especially with the transparent cover | 20:15 |
| attah | Not supported afaik.. (i have it for work) | 20:15 |
| coderus | attah: it's nothing if you don't own N9 in white | 20:16 |
| attah | coderus: true :( | 20:17 |
| attah | Or N950? | 20:17 |
| FireFly | Hmm the XA2 looks alright from a hardware POV | 20:41 |
| FireFly | maybe I should go for XA2 and at least try to continue avoiding Android :p | 20:41 |
| tiwake | FireFly: have they made the port for the XA2 yet? | 22:46 |
| tiwake | oh hey there is a blog thing about sailfish 3 with a thing about the XA2 | 22:47 |
| tiwake | nice | 22:48 |
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