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robertfossfriese: hey! are you the android on sailfish expert?13:11
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r0kk3rzrobertfoss: do you have a question you want answering?13:22
robertfossr0kk3rz: yeah, or maybe more like a discussion :)13:23
robertfossr0kk3rz: there are a few android on linux solutions out there13:23
r0kk3rzrobertfoss: do you know who you're looking for or are you just pinging random people :P13:23
robertfosslike anbox13:23
robertfossr0kk3rz: I was told by Vesa-Matti to find someone, but only partially caught the name13:24
robertfossand the chromiumos solution13:24
r0kk3rzdoes franz-joseph sound familiar?13:24
robertfossonly got a nickname13:25
abransonrobertfoss: krnlyng? or frajo?13:25
robertfossabranson: maybe frajo?13:26
r0kk3rzsame person13:26
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r0kk3rzwhat do you want to talk about?13:27
malhe's not currently doing anbox, at least not actively13:27
krnlynghi13:27
robertfosskrnlyng: heya13:29
krnlyngwhat's up :)?13:30
robertfosskrnlyng: from the talk at fossnorth today I learned that you aren't using anbox, but rather a proprietary solution13:30
robertfosskrnlyng: and that you are moving to supporting something newer than 4.413:30
robertfosskrnlyng: we (collabora) have been looking at providing some sort of fully open source solution to supporting android ontop of wayland13:31
robertfosskrnlyng: part of that requires a hwcomposer_to_wayland shim13:32
robertfosskrnlyng: one already exists within the chromiumos13:32
robertfosskrnlyng: but hosting an open source project within the chromiumos project is not ideal13:32
robertfosskrnlyng: and having it live somewhere else, like freedesktop.org might be interesting.13:33
robertfosskrnlyng: but only if there is a community interest in this13:33
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robertfosskrnlyng: so, overall I'm curiouse what the jolla stance on this is13:34
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robertfosskrnlyng: but also what the wider stance about android compatibility layers and having it live in the open source domain13:36
krnlyngcan you hang on for a few moments?13:38
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r0kk3rzrobertfoss: certainly there is community interest in a solution, we were all putting our hopes into anbox14:03
r0kk3rztheres jolla, plasma mobile, ubuntu touch, purism, lune os, and perhaps others looking for an android on wayland type thing14:04
Mirvyeah Jolla's Android support from Myriad was there in 2013, Anbox is 2017 stuff14:13
robertfosskrnlyng: sure14:16
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krnlyngrobertfoss, do you have any specific questions? our OS utilizes libhybris, that means the android compatibility layer is quite different than other kinds, sometimes it can use passthrough-methods, but in other cases there is more work needed.14:37
krnlyngrobertfoss: some of it's parts are special and probably not portable like camera, hw-accelerated rendering, ... having a standardized mapping for things like media, notifications, clipboard, addressbook, calendar... would be nice to have and could be collaborated14:37
krnlyngrobertfoss, i need to switch location, you can talk to abranson in the meantime, i will be back in 20-ish minutes :)14:40
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krnlyngrobertfoss, i am back :)14:58
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