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lolek1hello, which # is correct to ask license questions?08:15
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tbrlolek1: license for what?08:18
lolek1tbr: well maybe I've used wrong words08:19
lolek1the paid jolla version08:19
tbrah, no clue. probably here.08:20
lolek1hmm well then08:21
lolek1it may sound kind of stupid but the paid jolla version contains some extras like for example T9, Dalvik and Exchange support08:22
lolek1doest it mean that there is some license fee that has to be paid to Microsoft because of using Exchange protocols etc?08:22
tbrAFAIU MSFT collects a per device license fee for the Exchange protocol implementation, yes. (That's from my general knowledge, not Jolla/SF specific)08:29
tbrAlso they collect a fee for pretty much every Android device from the major manufacturers.08:30
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lolek1tbr: ok then what if I'd like to get paid jolla version but I wouldn't also want that jolla will pay from my money any license fee for Microsoft. Would it be possible then that I'd get a version without Exchange support? For me it's totaly fine I don't use Microsoft software08:37
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tbrlolek1: no clue, that's a question for Jolla. If they are willing to un-bundle that.08:39
tbrlolek1: TBH the whole license is for their commercial stuff, so I'm not sure why You'd want to buy it at all08:40
lolek1it's also for their support right?08:40
tbrno clue if the license contains a support service08:41
lolek1according to the informations I've found on the official sites - yea08:41
lolek1one year service08:42
lolek1but anyway that's probably for the latter time08:42
lolek1yesterday I was trying to find out where I can get sailfish images for xperia X and tbh I have failed08:42
tbrtried to ask on #sailfishos-porters ?08:43
lolek1tbh nope08:43
lolek1let me go there08:43
lolek1thanks08:43
r0kk3rzlolek1: you want a community build?08:45
lolek1would be fine08:48
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lolek1I understand that to switch latter to commercial there shouldn't be any problems?08:48
lolek1I've backed up my TA already, and have latest Oreo on my Xperia08:49
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r0kk3rzhttp://images.devaamo.fi/sfe/suzu/08:50
lolek1r0kk3rz: well it's kind of old isn't it? it's 2.1.2 while there's 2.1.4 already?08:52
RaYmAnyou could always build yourself :P08:53
r0kk3rzyou should be able to OTA that to latest08:53
lolek1RaYmAn: :P08:54
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r0kk3rzWebOS open source edition - http://webosose.org/10:29
tbrre-open-source-edition ;-)10:30
r0kk3rzhehe yes, i wonder what the luneos guys will do10:30
inzwebo-paste10:30
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ender|is Here WeGo not available on Jolla 1 any more?15:48
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lolekhmm17:14
lolekin the point 4.4 of the section unlock bootloader from here: https://jolla.com/sailfishx-linux-instructions/ there's information to run the command shown in c1 of sony instructions17:14
lolekbut in the sony tutorial there's something totaly different here: https://developer.sony.com/develop/open-devices/get-started/unlock-bootloader/how-to-unlock-bootloader/#tutorial-step-317:15
lolekI understand that it's totaly ok?17:15
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pketohmm, might be that sony has updated the instructions17:20
pketololek: it should be ok to just follow the instructions on sony's site for unlocking the bootloader17:22
lolekok17:22
lolekwell right now I'm strugling to get the fastboot devices to get working17:22
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lolekpketo: I've got problem with the flash.sh script17:29
pketowhat kind of problem?17:30
lolekit says it can't find the Sony Vendor image17:30
lolekwhile I have the loire.img of course next to the flash.sh17:30
lolekthe file name is: SW_binaries_for_Xperia_AOSP_M_MR1_3.10_v13_loire.img17:30
lolekwhile in the flash.sh I see this: ls -1 vendor_loire_*.img 217:31
lolekis it a bug in the flash.sh?17:31
pketololek: is that from the official sailfish x image zip?17:32
lolekthis is from here: http://images.devaamo.fi/sfe/suzu/SailfishOS-2.1.2.3-f5121-0.0.1+master.20170125170904.537a491.15.tar.bz217:33
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lolekpketo: ^^17:35
pketook, then that probably expects different name17:35
lolekwell ok but the question is if the file I have is correct?17:37
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lolekthe img was downloaded from the sony site17:38
pketoI don't know if it works with that old community build17:38
lolekerm so what should I do then?17:39
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lolekr0kk3rz: ping17:40
pketoYou could probably try edit the flash script to accept that file, or maybe ask at #sailfishos-porters17:40
lolekyeah I can edit it17:41
lolekjust the question is if the file is wrong I wouldn't break the device?17:41
lolekr0kk3rz: you gave me the link to this build, maybe you have some knowledge regarding it?17:41
r0kk3rzthe script just wraps some fastboot commands anyway17:41
pketoI don't take responsibility if it breaks something, but I think it shouldn't17:41
lolekr0kk3rz: yeah but as you can see the script expects the img file to have different name17:42
lolekok, well let's do this17:42
r0kk3rzits possible sony changed the filename17:43
loleklet's see17:44
lolekif it won't work then I'll have a nice brick ;)17:44
r0kk3rzyeah17:46
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r0kk3rzflashmode is fairly unkillable though17:46
r0kk3rzthe sony guys looked extremely surprised when we managed to break it17:47
loleklol17:47
lolekworks17:47
loleknow I need to get rid of that message that the phone is unsafe because of unlocked bootloader17:47
r0kk3rzafaik you cant17:48
r0kk3rzitd be really nice if they let you relock it, or not advertise that your phone is hackable like that17:49
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lolekand tutorial freezed :D17:52
lolekhmm there's some problem with the store, can't install mail and media app17:56
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