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| inte[m] | good morning | 04:30 |
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| inte[m] | Did anyone order the gemini pda and are the first devices actually shipping already? | 04:30 |
| inte[m] | indigogo page schedules shipment start at nov17 | 04:31 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah but what hardware kickstarter ever delivers on time | 09:19 |
| r0kk3rz | purism have only just started talking with suppliers and want to deliver by january next year, which is hilarious | 09:19 |
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| abranson | r0kk3rz: where's their SoC coming from? is it NXP? I saw yesterday that qcom were looking to buy them | 09:32 |
| r0kk3rz | i thought qcom already bought nxp | 09:32 |
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| r0kk3rz | but yes nxp do the freescale imx6/8 chips | 09:32 |
| abranson | maybe. it's all up in the air in the SoC business now | 09:32 |
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| r0kk3rz | abranson: been looking at the new gstreamer stuff yet? | 09:33 |
| abranson | no, not yet. got a camera to fix first. how have you been getting on? | 09:34 |
| r0kk3rz | goodish, i wonder whether my camera hal is a bit flakey which isnt helping me :) | 09:34 |
| r0kk3rz | so i should probably set up an audio call which might just work | 09:35 |
| abranson | apparently that nxp/qcom deal hasn't gone through yet. it's been up and down for a couple of years | 09:36 |
| abranson | but now trump said no to broadcom, it might change | 09:36 |
| abranson | and intel want to buy broadcom... | 09:36 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah well, just imagine a qcom + brcm + nxp behemoth... | 09:37 |
| abranson | and imagine if intel owned it all :( | 09:37 |
| r0kk3rz | meltdowns for everyone! | 09:38 |
| r0kk3rz | you get a meltdown, and you get a meltdown | 09:38 |
| abranson | heh | 09:39 |
| mornfall | cf. amdflaws.com or something :p | 09:39 |
| mornfall | you don't want to know how bad the qcom soc's are on bugs, either (luckily, they get obsoleted before you are done shipping your product, so who cares) | 09:40 |
| r0kk3rz | im fairly certain that we will see a lot of processor bugs being reported by all vendors | 09:40 |
| mornfall | it's a race to the bottom (incidentally started in the intel vs arm war, afaik) | 09:41 |
| mornfall | validation is expensive, and what's worse, it takes time | 09:42 |
| mornfall | nobody ain't got time for that | 09:42 |
| r0kk3rz | im not even sure its that, its the battle for performance | 09:42 |
| r0kk3rz | we hit clock speed limits years ago, we're at process shrink limits now | 09:43 |
| mornfall | there's very little competition on performance | 09:43 |
| mornfall | last time it was relevant was when amd64 came out | 09:44 |
| mornfall | soon after, intel put a safe distance between itself and everyone else | 09:44 |
| mornfall | and the phone market basically stopped caring, so it's not even arm vs arm competition | 09:45 |
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| mornfall | (i also guess tablets don't even show up on cpu vendor radars) | 09:47 |
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| hahlo | /names | 10:21 |
| hahlo | ups | 10:21 |
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