#jollamobile log for Saturday, 2017-11-18

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* keithzg[m] has given up for now on being allowed to buy SailfishX, has lent out his Xperia X to a friend to temporarily replace a broken phone00:29
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tiwakekeithzg[m]: just get a VPN and buy it though that01:02
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keithzg[m]tiwake: Seems like a sketchy way to go, particularly if I'm expecting any sort of support.01:09
tiwakewhy would it be sketchy?01:09
keithzg[m]Well, why aren't the accepting payments from outside of Europe? There's a big question mark that that creates.01:10
keithzg[m]I'm also still hoping I can buy SailfishX with part of my tablet refund01:11
keithzg[m]I guess I can vaguely understand if there's reasons for not accepting non-Euro transactions (although it seems weird to me, particularly for non-physical goods) but surely any of those reasons won't apply to merely getting a 'voucher' and using that?01:24
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Jopepdanek, in usa palm was one of the first. here in europe you should also remember psion08:40
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pdanekJope: I know Psion, so GeOS had good app ecosystem?09:14
* cehteh wonders if the gemini will come out with SFOS09:15
cehtehprolly not, but native linux is good enough either09:15
Jopepsion wasn'09:15
Jopet really geos?09:15
Jopeepoch09:15
Jopeepoc .. whatever09:16
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cehtehhttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-keyboard-mobile-device-phone/x/17382844#/ fyi09:17
cehtehpsion reborn09:17
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JopeI remember that .. so.. it should be ready real soon09:22
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malcehteh: there will be at least a community port for gemini09:39
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cehtehmal you have a link?09:40
malcehteh: no, I'm just saying that if nobody else ports sailfish to that I will do it09:44
cehtehhah ok09:45
malconsidering how many devices I have ported it won't take long09:45
malunless of course I want make a pure android-free port09:45
cehtehi am just wait and see. somehow i'd like to have one, but i would want something a bit waterproof and with backlit keyboard, iirc the keyboad on the gemini isnt backlit09:46
cehtehand while at it,  a small eink display on the outer shell for notifications would be cool09:47
cehtehbut i guess thats too much to hope for09:47
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pdanekJope: yes sorry I meant Epoc11:03
pdanekThe one in Psion 5mx11:03
pdanekApp ecosystem was good? Not just glorified diary? :)11:03
pdanekGemini lacks stylus11:04
pdanekhttps://youtu.be/EOKkNsov2Po11:11
pdanekwww.graalphone.com11:12
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Jopepdanek, probably was a glorified diary tbh.. I didn't run those myself12:04
pdanekJope: so we're probably back to Palm again12:04
pdanekAs first one who wasn't just diary12:05
pdanek:)12:05
Jopeyeh in the GA sense12:06
tadzikugh, windows12:06
Jopethe geos communicators had a sort of lively app culture tho12:06
Jope9000, 911012:06
tadzikcould be fun if it's flashable to something useful12:06
Jopeso palm wasn't alone, but their volumes were certainly larger than those geos communicators12:06
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M-schmittlauchArgh, my Jolla1 may be dying (sudden reboots again) and I don't know which phone I should by instead. Only want to give Jolla money again when they open-sourced stuff >.<21:07
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