#jollamobile log for Tuesday, 2017-10-03

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coderusfckn olf touched so many threads in tjc. it's a mwss now.07:02
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maheartIf you're going to create a bug report. Can I recommend Python 3.6 over 3.5. 3.6 comes with the new string formatting, which makes code a lot cleaner.07:24
Nicd-yet another python string formatter07:24
maheartyes :)07:25
maheartThis should be the final one ;)07:25
Nicd-yet they did not deprecate anything :P07:25
Nicd-"This PEP does not propose to remove or deprecate any of the existing string formatting mechanisms." ¯\_(ツ)_/¯07:27
Tegu"There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it. / Although that way may not be obvious at first unless you're Dutch." https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0020/07:32
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* pahartik had "Jolla Mobile" restart itself when trying to choose mobile data roaming network manually07:39
* pahartik got it working when trying again after that sudden restart, roaming in Estonia with "DNA FI" service, "Elisa EE" seems to work with IPv6 only setting, while "Tele2 EE" does not give address07:46
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* pahartik tried both with same results on "Jolla Mobile" and "LineageOS LTE" device, one mobile network supports IPv6 roaming, other does not07:50
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MoritzJTCan someone tell me how to force my Jolla C to update properly after a factory reset directly to latest EA?12:35
MoritzJTI did a factory reset, relogged to my Jolla Account and the update download gets stuck at about 5 %12:35
MoritzJTNothing helps, no reboot, no app registry reset12:35
MoritzJTAnd worst of em all, dev mode cannot install as well12:36
r0kk3rzdirectly? thats not how updates work12:36
r0kk3rzfix installing dev-mode first12:37
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MoritzJTDirectly means directly that one the UI offers.12:39
MoritzJTIf the UI is stupid and forgot an intermediate step it should not be my issue... :P12:39
MoritzJTThe UI offers me the actual EA one...12:39
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r0kk3rzwhat version are you currently on?12:39
MoritzJTAnd a reset left me on: 2.0.2.5112:39
MoritzJTUI tries to download 2.1.2.312:39
MoritzJTIt even give an error message prior to downloading during preparation12:40
r0kk3rzthats a little bit surprising, i would've expected it to go through 2.1.012:40
MoritzJTI have half a screenshot of the notification12:40
MoritzJTsomething in german12:40
r0kk3rzLarstiQ: pketo ^^12:40
MoritzJT...ates konnte nicht bestimmt werden.12:40
MoritzJTI guess that's the issue then. The phone forgot that it cannot go there directly. That's on Jolla then :-/12:41
MoritzJTSo I have to follow this: https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201836347-How-do-I-download-and-install-a-System-Update-an-OS-update-12:41
MoritzJTWhich I cannot because Dev Mode cannot install :-/ Brilliant situation Jolla :D12:41
MoritzJTAnd Jolla didn't maintain their list of stop releases12:42
pketoI think there isn't stop releases between those, but will check12:59
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r0kk3rzpketo: arent they quite big though? with qt5.6 and a whole host of other changes?13:01
pketoyes13:01
pketobut that should be a valid update path... not sure what is wrong there13:03
r0kk3rzyou've only got 1gb of working space on the system partition of jolla c13:05
r0kk3rzi would've thought you'd be getting quite close to that with these updates13:05
r0kk3rz2.0.2-2.1.2 replaces pretty much all of the things13:06
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MoritzJTWell I've got 1,3GB of free system space14:16
MoritzJTShould not be an issue...14:16
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MoritzJT"Size of the update could not be determined" That's what the error tells me14:22
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MoritzJTjolla developer mode was not found in jolla store... wtf14:33
MoritzJTMaybe the factory reset option from the last working release deleted a bit more than it should have...14:33
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pketoMoritzJT: there seems to be some issue in update from 2.0.2.51, we are looking into that14:38
MoritzJTThank you. I will from trying for now...14:38
MoritzJTMaybe you can keep us updated here: https://together.jolla.com/question/168272/jolla-c-wrong-update-after-factory-reset/14:39
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pketoMoritzJT: If you want you could try disabling early access at account.jolla.com, then updating to 2.1.0.11, then enabling early access again and updating to 2.1.2.314:42
MoritzJTI was just thinking the same :D Maybe I can at least have something working!14:42
MoritzJTI wasn't even aware of the EA update. It only showed that update notification after I reset, which I did for another reason alltogether. Good luck figuring out what went wrong. I hope it is not a severe issue14:43
MoritzJTCurrently my Phone doesn't even boot anymore lol14:43
MoritzJTOh shit :-( A bootlooped Jolla C after installing sailfish Utilities, having the update on download but not install. I rebooted the phone via dev mode show reboot button.14:45
MoritzJTNot it will not go beyond sailfishos logo14:45
MoritzJTI am killing myself if I cannot send it in because it's a Jolla C :-(14:46
MoritzJTNot literally...14:46
MoritzJTYup it's officially dead. Will no longer boot past that part.14:49
MoritzJTJolla jolla, my dear how can such a thing happen?14:49
tadzik. o O ( note to self: wait a few days before updating )14:50
MoritzJTNote to self... I wasn't even trying to update... I was trying to fix my camera. Then only after a reset, i got an update notification and only then I checked tjc.14:51
MoritzJTHad I known that after a reset I could not update to a prior version well...14:51
MoritzJTNot to self, just never touch a Jolla C again - looking forward to some XPeria action. You know sth. that I can flash myself and not be screwed when sth. goes wrong that is not my fault :P14:52
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abransonMoritzJT: Amen to that. You can't beat wiping it clean and starting again...14:54
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MoritzJTNow I can start beating my Jolla C until it is clean and starting again... wait that will never happen :-(14:55
MoritzJTAnyone need a brick? It can even glow in the dark lol14:55
MoritzJTI would've understood it if I had rebooted during an update, but I just used a regular reboot. Nothing was going on14:55
MoritzJTAnd now it's dead just like that14:55
MoritzJTOh wait, there's recovery mode... let me try that. Sorry for spamming here15:00
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cehteh:D15:03
cehtehi cursed a few times when things broke on my jolla 1, but always was able to recover somehow15:03
cehtehstill i'd prefer this doesnt happen, its always a timesink and pita15:04
MoritzJTOn Jolla 1 you could even flash - not officially but you could. For Jolla C we do not have the qualcomm tools :-/15:04
cehtehsome sane rolback after update would be nice15:04
MoritzJTTelnet and Putty to the rescue... Device wiped now15:04
cehteh(without btrfs)15:04
MoritzJTOh well I forgot how annoying BTRFS was on Jolla 1 - I had some tool help me keep it clean and maintained. It also reserved some storage so it wouldn't fill up15:05
MoritzJTThen I sold it to someone less interested in the technical details. Bet he's having a hard time now^^15:05
cehtehi just put as much as i can on sd card15:06
cehtehrunning okish still ... but as all devices since the n900 (or even before) lacks ram15:06
MoritzJTYup that was the main issue why I switched to Jolla C. Messengers eating into it and making it unstable. For Jlla C it is fine15:07
MoritzJThttps://together.jolla.com/question/168272/jolla-c-wrong-update-after-factory-reset/?answer=168290#post-id-16829015:10
MoritzJTSo now I know how to proceed...15:10
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attahIs aliendalvik 1.0.75 a higher api level than 1.0.69? </wishful-thinking>18:33
coderusattah: ahhah18:41
attahcoderus: so taht18:43
attah's a no?18:43
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abransonattah: I'd imagine we'd bump at least the minor version if we managed that...19:06
attahabranson: yeah, i kinda suspected that, but was unsure if the package is 0.something on the J1 which it would have to be to complete that reasoning19:08
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abransonattah: you want consistency as well? so demanding...20:19
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