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| corecomic | Is there a way to unlock the Jolla phone over ssh? Touch input is broken on my device and I'm not able to input the numbers 1,2,3 which would be needed to unlock the device | 17:02 |
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| corecomic | I've the developer mode enabled and can connect with ssh over the wifi | 17:03 |
| r0kk3rz | if touch is broken, what would you do with it anyway? | 17:04 |
| corecomic | alternatively a way to rotate the lock screen would also help so the numbers are on a different place on the screen where touch is working | 17:04 |
| corecomic | it's only a certain part of the screen where it's not working, so still usable for most stuff | 17:05 |
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| r0kk3rz | ah, tricky | 17:06 |
| corecomic | it was a bit tricky to hit some spots for a while now, but worked always. today no way to unlock it | 17:08 |
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| corecomic | should be possible to do something over ssh I'm hoping, can't find any information though | 17:10 |
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| corecomic | ok found it: '/usr/lib/qt5/plugins/devicelock/encpartition --clear-code MY_CODE' disables the lock code | 17:25 |
| corecomic | it's time for the sony devices with sailfish to show up :) | 17:28 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | 18:12 |
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| Nicd- | corecomic: want to buy my Jolla 1 with TOHKBD? :) | 18:37 |
| * SQUelcher sold both his TOHKBD to someone in Hong Kong | 18:42 | |
| corecomic | Nicd-: not really, I'm looking for good HW with a good OS :D thx for the offer though | 18:47 |
| Nicd- | guess it's too late for it | 18:47 |
| sebsebseb | corecomic: uh salifhs os is a good os | 18:48 |
| sebsebseb | corecomic: and you could buy from India someting such as the Intex Aquafish for nicer hardwrae | 18:48 |
| corecomic | yeah but Jolla 1 is not good HW :D | 18:48 |
| sebsebseb | or watch out for new offical jolla sales | 18:48 |
| sebsebseb | with new hardware | 18:48 |
| sebsebseb | corecomic: yeah the first Jolla isn't that nice for hardware true | 18:48 |
| sebsebseb | but other phones with salifish os have gone on sale since with nicer hardware | 18:49 |
| corecomic | I'm waiting for the sony phones with sailfish | 18:49 |
| sebsebseb | corecomic: yeah any idea when thatwill be? | 18:49 |
| corecomic | no idea, soon probably :D | 18:49 |
| * sebsebseb is thinking about replaceing as main phone the Meizu MX 4 Ubuntu Edition, but to what? | 18:50 | |
| * sebsebseb has lost a S3 Mini since moseone was messing with stuff, nhopefully in the room, not trown out, but its not looking so hopeful this time, thats a old phone | 18:50 | |
| sebsebseb | I have a Jolla | 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | but going to that from the above mentioend phone as a main phone, for hardware would be a downgrade really, despirete the other one looking llike an iphone | 18:50 |
| sebsebseb | I have a FIrefox OS phone but I don't use that as an atsual phone. I also have a Samsuing Tizen Z1 but again I don't use that as an actsual phone. I have a cheap Android phone as well | 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | and a second hand one even, but don't use thAT | 18:51 |
| corecomic | I've a bq ubuntu phone as well, doesn't look like ubuntu on phones is going to happen... | 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | and I have the bq aqura 4.5 as well | 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | but I keep that on a old version of ubuntu ouch anyway | 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | since had thought had lost etc and not really using | 18:51 |
| corecomic | and a Samsung Z3 I've also :) | 18:51 |
| sebsebseb | and my Ubuntu tablet the HD is away for repair, but certian hardware compoenents connected together, so not so simple | 18:52 |
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| sebsebseb | corecomic: I had a choice, Z1, Z3 (really the second phone), or Z2, but still bought the Z1 | 18:52 |
| sebsebseb | Tizen yeah | 18:53 |
| sebsebseb | corecomic: MX 4 and BQ 4.5 Ubuntu's have both pretty much had it for updates | 18:53 |
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| sebsebseb | Canonical will soon drop all support for Ubuntu Touch, and for the Ubports fork, the plan was only to support those with security updates really | 18:53 |
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| sebsebseb | corecomic: really Salifish OS can do a load more t han both ubuntu touch and probably android even | 18:54 |
| sebsebseb | can even run most of the android apps and well enough | 18:54 |
| corecomic | yeah, it's still a pity there are not more alternatives | 18:55 |
| sebsebseb | corecomic: yeah all Linux based alternaties dead now really in the senese of going market share real market share possibly | 18:55 |
| sebsebseb | except for Salifish OS now | 18:55 |
| sebsebseb | and Tizen kind of to, if you include that | 18:55 |
| sebsebseb | but thats like Samsungs Android, so not much good, apparnatly samsung were having issues with security holes too | 18:56 |
| sebsebseb | not sure how to patch things etc | 18:56 |
| sebsebseb | corecomic: so you think Jolla 1 has bad hardware, but that otherwise Salifhs OS is nice :)? | 18:56 |
| corecomic | but Tizen not looking so good for now in my experience also from a usability point of view | 18:58 |
| corecomic | yeah sailfish os is nice and definitely has the most potential from the current linux based variants | 18:58 |
| corecomic | still lacking in some areas but pretty good overall | 18:58 |
| sebsebseb | well all the other LINUX based ones are dead really see above | 18:59 |
| sebsebseb | so that leaves two, Salifsh OS and Tizen | 18:59 |
| corecomic | there sailfish clearly wins for me :) | 18:59 |
| corecomic | good HW with proper sailfish support is what I want really | 19:01 |
| corecomic | still missing the N9 :D | 19:01 |
| sebsebseb | corecomic: some community ports to | 19:03 |
| sebsebseb | corecomic: so you thin the jolla hardware is to old? | 19:12 |
| sebsebseb | and looks old etc ? | 19:12 |
| sebsebseb | jolla 1 | 19:12 |
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| corecomic | sebsebseb: it actually was never really good to start with: camera is bad, display completely unusable outside.., I could go on... | 19:20 |
| corecomic | also don't like the form factor, feels too big and clunky | 19:20 |
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| corecomic | was just the only alternative to an android phone or iphone and basically still is | 19:21 |
| corecomic | which is kinda sad | 19:21 |
| r0kk3rz | big? you'll be dissapointed with the xperia x then :) | 19:23 |
| corecomic | I know, the compact is ok though | 19:25 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah, but the official port is for the X, not the compact | 19:26 |
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| corecomic | only the X? is that so, I was thinking they'll support more devices | 19:27 |
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| sebsebseb | corecomic: do you trust a phone directly from India ? | 19:36 |
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| sebsebseb | r0kk3rz: seems one was on sale at american amazon sony x with salifihs os, just been googleing, but what about uk sale :d ? | 19:40 |
| corecomic | sebsebseb: the aquafish? you have one? the HW seems not that much better than jolla 1 | 19:43 |
| sebsebseb | corecomic: no don't have one, got onto a europan thread with people who do | 19:44 |
| sebsebseb | I would like one in a wya | 19:44 |
| sebsebseb | way | 19:44 |
| r0kk3rz | sebsebseb: wat. nothing has been sold yet afaik | 19:44 |
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| r0kk3rz | corecomic: the aquafish is better in some ways, worse in others, its a cheap device really | 19:45 |
| sebsebseb | r0kk3rz: oh thats a android link | 19:45 |
| sebsebseb | the sony phone is probably better | 19:45 |
| sebsebseb | but thats not out yet | 19:45 |
| r0kk3rz | better, by like a million | 19:45 |
| sebsebseb | r0kk3rz: corecomic seems some people had issues trying to import the inttex aquafish salifshos to europe going by a link I got on | 19:45 |
| sebsebseb | r0kk3rz: you mean its way better? or will be the sony ? | 19:46 |
| r0kk3rz | the sony of course | 19:46 |
| sebsebseb | r0kk3rz: will it come pre installed | 19:48 |
| sebsebseb | just reading a link now they hope a community rom by end of june 2017 | 19:49 |
| sebsebseb | http://www.androidguys.com/2017/03/01/jollas-sailfish-os-is-coming-to-a-sony-xperia-phone-near-you/ | 19:49 |
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| sebsebseb | corecomic: r0kk3rz ok seen a video, but having a sony xperia would be like other people :d except the os would be differnet from most | 19:58 |
| r0kk3rz | sorry it doesnt hit your hipster buttons | 20:00 |
| sebsebseb | r0kk3rz: he h | 20:02 |
| sebsebseb | r0kk3rz: well its nice haing something diffenret to most | 20:02 |
| sebsebseb | but apparnatly sony phones are way better than people give them credit etc | 20:02 |
| sebsebseb | its a samsung world | 20:03 |
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| sebsebseb | probably why sony have come on board with salifish as well | 20:03 |
| sebsebseb | I would want something with a nice os :) | 20:03 |
| sebsebseb | Linux based | 20:03 |
| sebsebseb | and the above mentioend ubuntu touch meizu mx 4, looks like a iphone so uhmm | 20:03 |
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| louisdk | Does anyone know if I'll be able to buy an Xperia X preloaded with SailfishOS or if I should buy a 2nd phone? | 21:29 |
| phlixi | louisdk: for now, wait | 21:29 |
| phlixi | more to be announced "end of q2" | 21:29 |
| louisdk | phlixi: hard to wait when I got a good offer on an Xperia X :) | 21:30 |
| phlixi | its a gamble | 21:30 |
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| louisdk | phlixi: it'll just wait then :) | 21:32 |
| phlixi | i ordered one | 21:32 |
| phlixi | if it will be avail only preflashed, well ill sell it and order the preflashed one | 21:33 |
| phlixi | out of curiosity, what do you consider a good offer? | 21:33 |
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| louisdk | phlixi: 240€ in mint condition at a 2nd hand reseller shop. Full warranty and still cheaper than a private seller. | 21:37 |
| * louisdk lives in Denmark. Prices might be slightly higher compared to the rest of EU. | 21:38 | |
| phlixi | i got one from ebay (de) for 160€ but with some slight scratches. none one the display though | 21:39 |
| phlixi | ive seen several "mint condition" from 200 to 220, and of course above | 21:39 |
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| louisdk | Let's wait and see. The price might be even lower in a months time or so :) My dream device is still a Xperia XZ(s) :) | 21:41 |
| phlixi | if it will be possible to download sfos for xperia x for free then ill expect at little increase in price of those on ebay and such | 21:42 |
| phlixi | since there are not so many of them | 21:42 |
| phlixi | but ofc i might be wrong | 21:43 |
| phlixi | and for sure not suitable for making money :D | 21:43 |
| phlixi | i just thought, well, i got this nice offer, ill take it. | 21:43 |
| phlixi | and if i sell it in 2 months again, even with a loss, well, i dont care that much^^ | 21:44 |
| louisdk | understandable :) | 21:44 |
| phlixi | ...especially since there are not so many offers... | 21:45 |
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