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| Milo- | These duplicate calendar entries are starting to get to my nerves. Is anyone at Jolla working for a solution? | 13:33 |
| r0kk3rz | abranson: is that what you're seeing ^^ | 13:35 |
| abranson | yeah i'm getting that, but only in the last couple of months. really annoying. | 13:36 |
| abranson | my favourite part is when an alarm goes off 35 times | 13:37 |
| Milo- | yeah :/ | 13:37 |
| r0kk3rz | oh wow, that must be fun | 13:37 |
| abranson | i'm trying to replicate it for logs, but it only seems to happen on automatic syncs, not manual ones | 13:37 |
| Milo- | had two meetings today at 12. both of them had an alarm going off six times. | 13:37 |
| Milo- | dismiss, dismiss, dismiss, dismiss, dismiss, dismisss, ... the swiping takes so much effort | 13:38 |
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| tadzik | oh boy | 13:41 |
| Milo- | I'm sure it can make some people very happy, when their phone keeps buzzing in their pockets for minutes | 13:43 |
| abranson | Milo-: you can clear them out from /home/nemo/.timed/events.data | 13:44 |
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| Milo- | how often does it re-generate the event file? | 13:46 |
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| abranson | not sure. i do it when I clear the calendar db | 13:57 |
| abranson | so they get recreated together | 13:57 |
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| abranson | Milo-: what are you syncing with? owncloud/nextcloud? | 14:20 |
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| rubdos | Could... my Jolla just have died? I was bugging a bit, so I decided to reboot it. It doesn't do anything anymore, even after plugging in :/ | 14:49 |
| rigo | rubdos: did you update? | 14:59 |
| rubdos | A long time ago | 14:59 |
| rigo | ah, not actually | 14:59 |
| rubdos | I mean, I had the latest update | 14:59 |
| rubdos | but I didn't update this week or so | 14:59 |
| rigo | have you tried rescue mode? | 14:59 |
| rubdos | how? | 14:59 |
| rubdos | Never had to do that | 14:59 |
| rigo | https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204709607 | 15:00 |
| rigo | perhaps that helps to wake the phone | 15:00 |
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| rubdos | Doesn't wake it | 15:03 |
| rubdos | RIP | 15:03 |
| rubdos | that's really sad. Just a few weeks (?) before the Sony launch? :/ | 15:03 |
| r0kk3rz | rubdos: did you pull the battery at all? | 15:04 |
| rubdos | yes | 15:04 |
| r0kk3rz | interesting | 15:04 |
| rubdos | I pulled out the battery, then hold on the volume down, inserted, then power, while still holding the volume. | 15:05 |
| rubdos | Doesn't do anything at all. | 15:05 |
| rubdos | Battery was 50% when I shut it down, so should work | 15:05 |
| rigo | strange | 15:06 |
| r0kk3rz | rubdos: when you say 'bugging a bit' what exactly were you seeing? | 15:06 |
| rubdos | I'm tying it out for the support ticket, I'll copy it here once it's ready :) | 15:06 |
| rubdos | my device started acting weird: message app and kodi-mote app were hanging, and at last I could see my cell coverage disappear, along with my WiFi signal. | 15:07 |
| rubdos | I had that some months ago, and it was nothing that a reboot couldn't solve | 15:07 |
| rubdos | Sounds like I should contact support? | 15:09 |
| rubdos | I'll probably just use my GF's Moto G4 1st gen for a while, while waiting for Sony. | 15:10 |
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| rubdos | + damnit, I don't have backups of my phone numbers --" | 15:11 |
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| r0kk3rz | rubdos: if the device is unresponsive, all they will do is quote you a price for sending it in | 15:16 |
| rubdos | That's really sad... I would have bought an Xperia XZ the moment it'd come out, and have migrated away before this would happen | 15:16 |
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| rubdos | r0kk3rz: what can they still do with it? If they could get my data out, would be good, depending on the price. | 15:16 |
| r0kk3rz | they might have some tricks, but it sounds quite dead | 15:17 |
| rubdos | nooooo :( | 15:18 |
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| rubdos | possibly the most annoying crash of my life :o | 15:42 |
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| r0kk3rz | rubdos: then your life must be reasonably fortunate :) | 15:46 |
| rubdos | Yes indeed. Always been fortunate with crashes | 15:46 |
| rubdos | laptop crashed last year, luckily the motherboard. Desktop crashed, but I could recover my disk... That kind of things. | 15:47 |
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| r0kk3rz | https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/05/googles-fuchsia-smartphone-os-dumps-linux-has-a-wild-new-ui/ | 19:36 |
| r0kk3rz | im not sure its that 'wild' | 19:36 |
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| abranson_ | r0kk3rz: they should call it 'Android NT'. then we're full circle. | 20:00 |
| r0kk3rz | abranson_: :D | 20:03 |
| r0kk3rz | to be fair, windows NT turned out reasonably well for MS | 20:04 |
| Helle | dumps Linux, because DRM isn't working out well enough for them on it ? | 20:05 |
| Helle | sorry, being a pessimist | 20:05 |
| r0kk3rz | Helle: NIH more likely | 20:09 |
| Helle | r0kk3rz: I guess, can we now remove wakelocks ? :P | 20:10 |
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| Helle | I wonder how long until Google get's recognized as being Microsoft 2.0 (aka IBM 3.0) | 20:11 |
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| abranson_ | dumping Linux, because there was too much pesky upstream to deal with | 20:17 |
| Helle | hehehe | 20:17 |
| Nicd- | at least it's open source! | 20:17 |
| Helle | Nicd-: "You get to keep the pieces" ? | 20:18 |
| Nicd- | yes maybe we should never make alternatives to existing software | 20:18 |
| Nicd- | we should just shut down all the linux distros and all use ubuntu | 20:18 |
| r0kk3rz | Nicd-: good idea | 20:18 |
| abranson_ | Nicd-: I'd be less sceptical if Google were even slightly collaborative. Missing all those open standards, cooperation and interoperability quite badly. | 20:23 |
| r0kk3rz | im not entirely sure what they get from their code drop style open sourcing | 20:25 |
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| abranson_ | r0kk3rz: a badge with 'open source!' printed on it | 20:37 |
| Helle | a claim to do no evil, while doing evil | 20:38 |
| abranson_ | I think they're only really interested in open source for the many eyes angle. they're not interested in community or collaboration at all | 20:38 |
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| r0kk3rz | but if you cant contribute directly, why look? | 20:44 |
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| abranson_ | audit, learn, steal. it's not compelling but I see why people do. | 20:47 |
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| phlixi | iirc they once said "do no evil" (or whatever the claim was exactly) is no longer a thing, while, of course doing no evil... | 21:29 |
| r0kk3rz | it was 'dont be evil' a subtle but important difference :P | 21:31 |
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| phlixi | my job is remotely related with marketing, thus i dont give sh*t about such claims.. its exactly that, marketing :) | 21:34 |
| phlixi | but you are right, "dont be evil" sounds familiar | 21:36 |
| NicePics | Any one here running/built their own jolla distro? | 21:40 |
| r0kk3rz | NicePics: you'll find a whole channel full of them in #sailfishos-porters | 21:42 |
| NicePics | thanks, but meant the reverse - running a custom distro on the original jolla phone | 21:45 |
| r0kk3rz | ive not heard of people doing such a thing | 21:46 |
| r0kk3rz | the closest is running glacier homescreen | 21:47 |
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| NicePics | just wondering, read on the maemo forum that the bootloader is unlockable | 21:55 |
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| coderus | NicePics: this is true, just nobody did something like other os | 22:37 |
| NicePics | not using it to make any calls, just for xmpp, would something like armbian require any impossible to come by blobs? | 22:40 |
| coderus | NicePics: no idea really. i guess you need drivers anyway, so. | 22:41 |
| NicePics | yes, all these arm implementations | 22:43 |
| NicePics | arms up the wazoo | 22:43 |
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