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| Armadillo | phlixi yes, I know those logs and I totally agree with you. | 05:08 |
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| sledges | PSA: sfos collab @ #mer-meeting, starting... (will be short meeting) | 08:03 |
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| phlixi_o | Armadillo: for completeness, i asked again in the meeting earlier today, nothing left of the "soon" :-( | 09:21 |
| Armadillo | phlixi_o Jaymzz told us some information in the collaboration meeting an hour ago: | 09:23 |
| Armadillo | «10:07:15» <@Jaymzz_> In case anyone wants new information regarding the Sony project, we are making solid progress and are on schedule :) | 09:23 |
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| LarstiQ | phlixi_o: I think that's soon | 09:24 |
| phlixi_o | Armadillo, LarstiQ i was referring specific the point whether it makes sense to buy an xperia x at the moment (for example in case the current jp1301 is dying or such) | 09:25 |
| LarstiQ | or rather, "relatively soon" | 09:25 |
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| phlixi_o | ...where on moarch 22th the information was that there will be news about this pretty soon. now this is something that is left open until, well, idk, together with other updates on this, and i guess end q2 | 09:26 |
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| phlixi_o | i interpreted that as in in relative to end of q2 i guess.. | 09:26 |
| Armadillo | as we currently don't know which version of the Xperia X (normal, dual sim,...) is being supported, it makes no sense in my opinion | 09:26 |
| Armadillo | regarding time definitions, always expect the worst case, which currently would be end of june | 09:27 |
| phlixi_o | yeah, sure | 09:28 |
| LarstiQ | Armadillo: F5121 | 09:28 |
| r0kk3rz | worst case + 1 month, so end of july | 09:28 |
| phlixi_o | i was hoping to get information on this bit earilier | 09:28 |
| LarstiQ | Armadillo: has been mentioned in community meeting | 09:28 |
| Armadillo | oh I missed that, thank you LarstiQ | 09:28 |
| LarstiQ | phlixi_o: we can't imdemnify your purchase before we know how things actually will go | 09:29 |
| LarstiQ | phlixi_o: so, if you don't mind potentially being stuck with a phone you can't put Sailfish on, go ahead | 09:29 |
| LarstiQ | but then don't complain we told you to buy it | 09:29 |
| LarstiQ | other than that, we'll have news when we have news | 09:30 |
| phlixi_o | well thats clear of course :-) | 09:30 |
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| phlixi_o | however, i am happy to hear the project seem to make solid progress :-) | 09:44 |
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| dhbiker | so | 15:30 |
| dhbiker | why does it seem to me that people are mostly relying on android support on official devices | 15:30 |
| dhbiker | and hence not many usable apps are developed ? | 15:31 |
| LarstiQ | dhbiker: in which sense? | 15:31 |
| r0kk3rz | because apps | 15:31 |
| LarstiQ | ah | 15:31 |
| * LarstiQ hardly uses the android support | 15:31 | |
| dhbiker | well everything i'm looking for is mostly heavily outdated :D | 15:31 |
| dhbiker | for example skype stuff | 15:31 |
| dhbiker | :D | 15:31 |
| r0kk3rz | dhbiker: the issue with creating clients for proprietary services is that the service providers dont like it | 15:32 |
| dhbiker | i know :D | 15:32 |
| dhbiker | i came from Ubuntu | 15:32 |
| r0kk3rz | but, they dont create them themselves | 15:32 |
| dhbiker | which had the same issue | 15:32 |
| r0kk3rz | so... android support is the solution | 15:32 |
| dhbiker | and you have done basically nothing... if you are still relying on other OS :D | 15:32 |
| LarstiQ | who is you? | 15:33 |
| dhbiker | it's really sad to see this... so many capable OS choices | 15:33 |
| r0kk3rz | apps is only one part of the system | 15:33 |
| dhbiker | don't get me wrong | 15:34 |
| dhbiker | i'm not bashing the Sailfish OS | 15:34 |
| dhbiker | but it's the same story all over again :D | 15:34 |
| r0kk3rz | dhbiker: so, what is your solution? | 15:34 |
| * dhbiker had N900 with Maemo and Meizu MX4 with Ubuntu Touch | 15:35 | |
| dhbiker | r0kk3rz, at the moment nothing... sadly | 15:36 |
| r0kk3rz | good to know | 15:36 |
| dhbiker | i know that big companies don't like us if we use opensource stuff | 15:36 |
| r0kk3rz | do tell us if you have any bright ideas though | 15:36 |
| LarstiQ | dhbiker: what apps someone wants to use is highly personal | 15:36 |
| dhbiker | that's true | 15:37 |
| * LarstiQ sees not much point to Skype, for example | 15:37 | |
| dhbiker | maybe it was wrong choice of words all together :D | 15:37 |
| dhbiker | LarstiQ, it would be nice because of work related stuff... otherwise no use | 15:38 |
| r0kk3rz | dhbiker: android apps is quickly becoming a defacto-standard anyway | 15:38 |
| LarstiQ | dhbiker: well then, I'd use the android support for outliers like that | 15:39 |
| dhbiker | can't i'm on a ported device :D OnePlus One | 15:39 |
| LarstiQ | ah | 15:40 |
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| dhbiker | i know about sfdroid but that is very alpha | 15:40 |
| dhbiker | and i couldn't get any "original" device anyway | 15:40 |
| r0kk3rz | anbox is the future | 15:40 |
| dhbiker | so i decided to buy this oneplus one | 15:40 |
| dhbiker | to try out sailfish | 15:40 |
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| dhbiker | r0kk3rz, about the ideas... i installed sailfish maybe 18 hours ago | 15:42 |
| dhbiker | so i'm still fairly new to all this | 15:42 |
| r0kk3rz | dhbiker: well, like you said. ubuntu has the same problems | 15:42 |
| dhbiker | had* | 15:43 |
| dhbiker | Canonical abandoned us | 15:43 |
| dhbiker | :D | 15:43 |
| r0kk3rz | yes | 15:43 |
| r0kk3rz | shuttleworth gave up | 15:43 |
| dhbiker | i hope Sailfish will stay | 15:44 |
| LarstiQ | the real answer here would be dalvik for ports (or maybe wider availability of official devices) | 15:44 |
| dhbiker | it's a very nice idea with gestures and everything | 15:45 |
| LarstiQ | or well, anbbox from the community | 15:45 |
| dhbiker | anbox seems nice yes | 15:46 |
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| dhbiker | hmm | 18:47 |
| dhbiker | quick question | 18:47 |
| dhbiker | is there any exchange app on sailfish ? | 18:47 |
| dhbiker | i see a lot of screenshots but i can't find it | 18:47 |
| dhbiker | not availible on ported devices ? | 18:47 |
| Nicd- | it's in the store | 18:47 |
| Nicd- | maybe it's not for ported because of licensing reasons | 18:47 |
| dhbiker | *shrugs* | 18:48 |
| Nicd- | "Exchange support requires a third party license paid by the phone vendor. Some of Jolla's operating system licensees choose to license the support and only for these devices the Exchange support is offered from Jolla Store." | 18:48 |
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| dhbiker | so half of the usable stuff is unavailible on ported devices | 18:51 |
| dhbiker | damn licences | 18:51 |
| aard_ | dhbiker: alien actually needs some modifications for new hardware, while exchange will just work. get info about repo setup from an official device | 18:53 |
| aard_ | once the repo is set up and packages installed it should work | 18:53 |
| dhbiker | well | 18:55 |
| dhbiker | alien is the least of my concern :D | 18:56 |
| dhbiker | but exchange plugin would be very usable in my case | 18:56 |
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